General security/antitheft measures for Nissan Leaf

eoin42

Hi,
My Leaf tekna was stolen last week in Maynooth area.
There was no breakin to the house (luckily). The keys were in the kitchen at the rear of the house.
I need to decide if I will replace it with another leaf but am concerned that this could happen again. I dont know how the did it but Having seen some videos on youtube it seems possible that the key signal was amplified to open the and start the car. But is this possible given that it is about 10 metres from the front door to where the keys would have been sitting in the kitchen? Does everyone put their keys in a metal box or similar?

Would be grateful to get some tips on preventative measures.
I would love to get another EV.

jusmeig

eoin42 wrote: »

Hi,
My Leaf tekna was stolen last week in Maynooth area.
There was no breakin to the house (luckily). The keys were in the kitchen at the rear of the house.
I need to decide if I will replace it with another leaf but am concerned that this could happen again. I dont know how the did it but Having seen some videos on youtube it seems possible that the key signal was amplified to open the and start the car. But is this possible given that it is about 10 metres from the front door to where the keys would have been sitting in the kitchen? Does everyone put their keys in a metal box or similar?

Would be grateful to get some tips on preventative measures.
I would love to get another EV.

My dad got me a Faraday bag. Keep the key in this to prevent this type of attack.

KCross

eoin42 wrote: »

I need to decide if I will replace it with another leaf but am concerned that this could happen again.

Its not Leaf specific. Pretty much every car that has keyless entry and keyless start is susceptible to this, so yes it could happen again even if you buy something other than a Leaf.

Follow justmeig's advice to prevent it.

Hurrache

Halfords have RFID security wallets, grab one of them and you'll be good, they work perfectly.

[url] https://www.halfords.ie/motoring/car-security/vehicle-security/halfords-anti-rfid-theft-key-wallet[/url]
https://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=15551&langId=-1&categoryId=355412&productId=1473917&storeId=11101

JPA

Turn off keyless entry, use RFID bag, then the classic steering wheel lock.

n97 mini

Turn off keyless entry. It's simple to do, and all Nissan dealers should be doing it by default before releasing cars to customers, explaining why.

Iwantone

Get a Ghost fitted, I did & now never even think about whether the car is locked never mind where I leave the keys...

Zenith74

eoin42 wrote: »

The keys were in the kitchen at the rear of the house.

I'm not sure what these guys are using, but they likely have two devices, one that they bring near your key to read the signal which then transmits to the other device that replays it to the car. From the quick reading I've done, there are pairs of devices for €20 with a range of 1000'. So key at the back of the house just means one of them needs to jump into your back garden rather than stand at the front door, not sure this will put them off unless your garden is hard to access.

Worth nothing that virtually any metal box will block the signal from the key, so while there are some fancy pouches out there, or this awesome looking KickStarter (https://www.farafix.com/), a €3 tin like this should be more than sufficient - https://www.amazon.co.uk/MD-FlashLights-Etc-Ltd-survival/dp/B00HZL7D7K/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=tin+box&qid=1559463937&s=gateway&sr=8-3. A wrap of tinfoil would even do it if you want to go low-tech.

Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot of Leafs being stolen?

handofdog

Here's a video from the UK police showing a keyless car being stolen.

The Faraday bag sounds like a great idea!

https://youtu.be/bR8RrmEizVg

c.p.w.g.w

A tin box works too

biko

This is what I post every time this comes up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si1lmLth7p0

Orebro

Said it before and I’ll say it again - that’s what we pay expensive insurance for. If they want the car then isn’t it better they take it instead of breaking into the house for the keys while you and your family are in bed? Yes having the keys signal blocked might make them try elsewhere, but it might not!

...Ghost...

Orebro wrote: »

Said it before and I’ll say it again - that’s what we pay expensive insurance for. If they want the car then isn’t it better they take it instead of breaking into the house for the keys while you and your family are in bed? Yes having the keys signal blocked might make them try elsewhere, but it might not!

That's where the reliable double barrel comes in :cool:

Limbo123

Iwantone wrote: »

Get a Ghost fitted, I did & now never even think about whether the car is locked never mind where I leave the keys...

A good majority of repected installers that used to fit ghost in UK are moving away from it for simple bypass issues and poor customer support for an non Insurance approved device without the backing of thatcham. GHOST has become a buzzword in Ireland among the crew 5 years behind. Still happy with the Clifford Blackjax - been using Clifford for 30 years plus and never an issue 😉 Ireland always follows Uk trend and now people are storming houses for cars. I'd much rather a device that shuts tye engine down 80 seconds down the road than one that simply wont start and puts anyone in my house at risk with a high performance car sitting outside....

Limbo123

Best visual deterrent is a discklock (Google site in uk or buy in Halford iteland etc. Still can be defeated but not as easily as the inferior handbrake locks etc or no risk from cutting steering wheel. Can then look at aftemarket alarms /immobilizers and fuel cut off switches. Research the installer properly and don't be fooled by some 30 mins/ €400 installs that can be bought on alibaba for a fraction of the price.

Limbo123

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peaceboi

Our 2014 leaf acenta was stolen 2 years ago similarly. Was ignorant then, and left the car keys open in downstairs kitchen without any signal blocking pouch or faraday box. Since then, moved to ioniq and been using this https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07DN2D452/ref=dp_cerb_1

U can check this if working or not by placing the car keys inside the pouch and trying to start the car. Really does the job!

...Ghost...

What baffles me is that Nissan can track the car, as it has telematics, but there is no talk about this at all. The owners should have access details to enable them to track their cars, or pass the details onto the Gardai.

eoin42

...Ghost... wrote: »

What baffles me is that Nissan can track the car, as it has telematics, but there is no talk about this at all. The owners should have access details to enable them to track their cars, or pass the details onto the Gardai.

I asked the guy in Nissan about this and he said they cant track it because of GDPR.

eoin42

I heard that it happened to a neighbour a few months ago also.
And another neighbour had their charge cable stolen, it was untethered.

...Ghost...

eoin42 wrote: »

I asked the guy in Nissan about this and he said they cant track it because of GDPR.

GDPR is the latest in vogue BS answer to everything these days.

They would not need identifiable information. The chassis number is all they need. They would not need to track it unless it was reported stolen. Alternatively, let the owner track it themselves with a nissan connect feature.