Are parking enforcement targeting motorists?

sweetie

I had to pickup an item from an adverts seller yesterday in Dublin 1. Parked up in red zone and put 20 mins (via text) on it as I was expecting to see it working, then grab it and run. The seller had an issue which took some time to sort so I put ten more mins on it after the 20 elapsed but just as I did this he sorted it and we concluded the deal and within a minute or so I was back out at my car only to see a Parking Enforcement van pulling away from the spot behind me. Would it be paranoid to think they were waiting for my 20m to elapse to try and catch me out only to be foiled by my extra ten mins? I assume they have a live database of the current parking situation.

Del2005

Well their job is to target motorists, so yes they are doing their job , and if the time is expired then they can clamp. Is there a few minutes lee way or is that gone?

biko

They are targeting motorists, it's their business model to nab people whose parking have expired.

Midnight_EG

It's motorists that do the parking, so I'd presume they're targeting us alright

lobbylad

They might be, but if you selected the "Red Zone" and then your ticket expires, then all they know is that your car is somewhere in the Red Zone, they don't have the specific location of the car. It wouldn't be worth their while trawling around trying to find it.

oLoonatic

Hardly targeting horses. You can appeal it, if you feel hard done by and there is a decent chance you can sway them with the right words. I got clamped once. Made sure not to ever again.

amcalester

Of course they're targeting motorists, I've yet to see pedestrian parked illegally.

FYI - there's an informal 10 minute grace period, if you can demonstrate that no grace time was applied you'll be refunded.

Page 30 in this link sets out the main issues for appeals and the mostly likely outcome, decline, partial refund or full refund.

Victor

amcalester wrote: »

FYI - there's an informal 10 minute grace period

There is no entitlement to a grace period. Grace periods are about prioritising enforcement against egregious offences.

Phileas Frog

No, they're targeting cyclists. :rolleyes:

banie01

You mean they are letting pedestrians and cyclists just park wherever they like?
Scandalous!

I blame Fine Gael and the green wave!
For too long the illegally parked motorists of this country have been victims of swings in the whims of the electorate!

:pac:

amcalester

Victor wrote: »

There is no entitlement to a grace period. Grace periods are about prioritising enforcement against egregious offences.

Never said there was, just pointing out what the DCC Parking Appeals Report 2016 states.

It's not something I would rely on though.

DCC operates an informal 10 minute grace time to allow motorists to purchase a ticket or register their car on the Parking Tag service. This applies to cars with no ticket displayed or where the ticket displayed has expired. It does not apply to other offences e.g. parking in a disabled bay or loading bay, on double yellow lines, in bus lanes or clearways. Where an appeal demonstrates that the 10 minutes was not allowed then a refund is made. There is no grace time on the grace time

lobbylad

I think what the OP meant was that if you use the app, then the parking authorities are aware when your ticket expires (unlike a paper one). And he's asking, if they actively trawl around looking for those cars that have the expired online ticket.

I guess it'd be easy for them to be alerted to say (for example), car 12-D-12345 ticket has expired, but
(a) they don't know if you are still there
(b) they don't know exactly where you are within the zone you are parked

Del2005

lobbylad wrote: »

I think what the OP meant was that if you use the app, then the parking authorities are aware when your ticket expires (unlike a paper one). And he's asking, if they actively trawl around looking for those cars that have the expired online ticket.

I guess it'd be easy for them to be alerted to say (for example), car 12-D-12345 ticket has expired, but
(a) they don't know if you are still there
(b) they don't know exactly where you are within the zone you are parked

They'd be silly looking for cars that aren't about to expire.

zell12

Are parking enforcement targeting motorists?

:pac:

Spook_ie

amcalester wrote: »

Of course they're targeting motorists, I've yet to see pedestrian parked illegally.

FYI - there's an informal 10 minute grace period, if you can demonstrate that no grace time was applied you'll be refunded.

Page 30 in this link sets out the main issues for appeals and the mostly likely outcome, decline, partial refund or full refund.

There's actually a legal requirement for a 10 minute period at the start ( to allow you to pay, find change, walk to from machine etc. ) and end of paid parking before they can clamp a vehicle.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Vehicle_Clamping__Signage_Regulations_2017.pdf