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Buy a spare key

  • 24-05-2019 8:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭


    I bought a second hand car with a single key and want to get a spare

    Any advise on where to get it?
    Anything I need to be aware of before purchase?
    Ball Park price?

    Thanks for any help.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It helps when you tell us what car it is etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Thanks Biko. That's how little I know about this...
    Its an 04 smart roadster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The more uncommon the key the higher the risk it'll be expensive.

    One of the most well-known companies is www.autokey.ie/smart-roadster/
    Another option is to buy a key and program it yourself. Special software required.
    Start by checking with local locksmiths and autokey for quotes. It may not be as expensive as you think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Where in the country are you op ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Where in the country are you op ?
    Bray, thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    Got a key cut and programmed last week by a local guy, €120. For a T4 vw transporter.

    Edit nearest vw garage was doin it for around €90 but I'd have to bring the van to them, which wasn't feasible as it's 45 miles away and I'd have to truck it there as I lost the only key.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭johndaman66


    I wouldn't mind getting a ballpark price for a copy to be made for a 2011 Avensis which I bought recently and only came with the one. Be a small while yet probably before I get buy one as the cost of car, a few tyres and motor tax in the past few weeks plus a few other bits going on.

    keepalive213, €120 wasn't too bad for the Transporter in fairness. I thought they would be much more expensive.

    Would be good to hear back from the OP if/ when they get a new key sorted. All too often these threads aren't concluded with a price provided by the OP once the initial question is asked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's worth noting that Smart are owned by Mercedes Benz so they may use a similar key security system. Try a few good locksmiths first to see if they can duplicate a spare key similar to doing it for a Mercedes Benz. Other than that you may be forced to go to a Mercedes dealer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    most places can cut the key its programming the immobilizer thats expensive part.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Plane Mad


    Also to note make sure the company has a locksmith PSA licence. A lot of locksmiths don’t and you need one to cut car keys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭corks finest


    biko wrote: »
    The more uncommon the key the higher the risk it'll be expensive.

    One of the most well-known companies is www.autokey.ie/smart-roadster/
    Another option is to buy a key and program it yourself. Special software required.
    Start by checking with local locksmiths and autokey for quotes. It may not be as expensive as you think.
    Autokey did mine in about 45 great( Blackpool shopping centre CORK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    Plane Mad wrote: »
    Also to note make sure the company has a locksmith PSA licence. A lot of locksmiths don’t and you need one to cut car keys.

    I have a machine, and can cut car keys... but I'm not a locksmith, and I don't have a 'psa licence'.... !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭EGriff


    Autokey did mine in about 45 great( Blackpool shopping centre CORK

    What type of car and how much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    I see some expensive prices here. I get keys supplied cut and programmed when I'm over in the UK and pay £28 a key.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Plane Mad


    swarlb wrote: »
    I have a machine, and can cut car keys... but I'm not a locksmith, and I don't have a 'psa licence'.... !!

    As from January 2017 you need a PSA license. You don’t need to be a locksmith to cut car keys but you have to have the license to cut them from the PSA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    Plane Mad wrote: »
    As from January 2017 you need a PSA license. You don’t need to be a locksmith to cut car keys but you have to have the license to cut them from the PSA.

    Only if I'm offering a service for the cutting of keys, which I'm not. But I still have a machine, and can still cut keys. In fact, I cut one for my own car only a few days ago, far cheaper than going to a 'locksmith'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭corks finest


    EGriff wrote: »
    Autokey did mine in about 45 great( Blackpool shopping centre CORK

    What type of car and how much?
    Honda insight 2010


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭corks finest


    EGriff wrote: »
    Autokey did mine in about 45 great( Blackpool shopping centre CORK

    What type of car and how much?
    Honda insight 2010
    Few years ago but less than e120


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭rex-x


    Some cars are more difficult/expensive than others, honda are on the easy end of the scale


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭corks finest


    rex-x wrote: »
    Some cars are more difficult/expensive than others, honda are on the easy end of the scale
    Honda insight if have thought as a jap import would have been fairly difficult as when I had to call the insurance company after losing the original ( temporary thank God) was informed that car need to be towed and I'd be lucky to get a key within 10 days ,found it but made sure i sorted a replacement ASAP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Honda insight if have thought as a jap import would have been fairly difficult as when I had to call the insurance company after losing the original ( temporary thank God) was informed that car need to be towed and I'd be lucky to get a key within 10 days ,found it but made sure i sorted a replacement ASAP

    A JDM should be easy as they don't have factory immobilisers so it should be a simple cut, it's programming the transponder that's the difficult bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Anyone know if you need to get the immobiliser coded for just a new blade on a flip key?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Anyone know if you need to get the immobiliser coded for just a new blade on a flip key?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    Anyone know if you need to get the immobiliser coded for just a new blade on a flip key?

    if it's just the blade, it shouldn't need the immoboliser reprogrammed. The chip is normally in the fob part of the key.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    (I'm the O. P)

    I contacted autokey who said they can't quote me without seeing the original key

    I filled out and submitted web forms on 3 different locksmith sites. Each claim to specialise in car keys but I did not get any responces

    Just posting this to update as people were good enough to advise. I will go to autokey and update when I do

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    my3cents wrote: »
    I see some expensive prices here. I get keys supplied cut and programmed when I'm over in the UK and pay £28 a key.

    Where can you do this? Is it just a copy of the key you need with you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    cajonlardo wrote: »
    (I'm the O. P)

    I contacted autokey who said they can't quote me without seeing the original key

    I filled out and submitted web forms on 3 different locksmith sites. Each claim to specialise in car keys but I did not get any responces

    Just posting this to update as people were good enough to advise. I will go to autokey and update when I do

    Thanks

    These guys supplied a flip key for a car I bought. Think it was @€;60.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    cajonlardo wrote: »
    (I'm the O. P)

    I contacted autokey who said they can't quote me without seeing the original key

    I filled out and submitted web forms on 3 different locksmith sites. Each claim to specialise in car keys but I did not get any responces

    Just posting this to update as people were good enough to advise. I will go to autokey and update when I do

    Thanks

    These guys supplied a flip key for a car I bought. Think it was @€;60.
    Thanks, I will definitely try them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    Where can you do this? Is it just a copy of the key you need with you?

    Trago Mills near Liskeard in Cornwall. They take the key read the chip and then program a new one which they stick in a new key that they cut. Don't know all the cars they can do but have had older VW and Ford keys done no problem. They have other branches but I think the key cutting is a shop within a shop not really sure so can't say if all the branches can provide the service trago.co.uk

    Edit> Thats just the immobilizer btw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭johndaman66


    For what its worth I rang a Limerick city locksmith this morning to get a price to get a spare key cut my 2011 Avensis as I only have one.

    Was quoted €80 for a key with chip for immobilizer that wont have a remote opening function, rather lock/unlock at the door but will start the car (assuming it doesn't have an alarm fitted). For a key with added remote function I was quoted €180.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    For what its worth I rang a Limerick city locksmith this morning to get a price to get a spare key cut my 2011 Avensis as I only have one.

    Was quoted €80 for a key with chip for immobilizer that wont have a remote opening function, rather lock/unlock at the door but will start the car (assuming it doesn't have an alarm fitted). For a key with added remote function I was quoted €180.


    I got the very same quote for a new key for a 06 Fiat Doblo, 180 euro for a remote, and 80 euro for non remote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭corks finest


    For what its worth I rang a Limerick city locksmith this morning to get a price to get a spare key cut my 2011 Avensis as I only have one.

    Was quoted €80 for a key with chip for immobilizer that wont have a remote opening function, rather lock/unlock at the door but will start the car (assuming it doesn't have an alarm fitted). For a key with added remote function I was quoted €180.
    Still not too bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    O. P updating....
    Several online inquires went unanswered. I followed up by phoning and was repeatedly informed that the locksmiths couldn't get the smart fob I needed and wouldn't have the software to clone the original.
    Today I went into autokey and they ordered a key. They will have it on Tuesday. Quoted 180 for full remote fob.
    They had several smart fobs but he said my car had a different system where the unlock also disarmed the immobiliser.
    I wondered about that but I opened the key I have and there is no "chip" I like any other key I've seen
    In other words, there isn't a separate removable chip - just a pcb with the buttons.


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