PPC 1 - 2019 Blackhall

Lostudent

Hi all,

There seems to always be a general PPC1 thread each year, figured I'd get the ball rolling!

Is anyone else scratching their heads trying to figure out how much hours/week PPC1 actually takes up? I'm the first trainee my firm's ever had, and I've been asked to let them know how many hours a week (if any) I'll be able to work remotely for them, so they can figure out if they need someone to temp in my place during that time. I've downloaded the 2018 iCal PPC timetable but it's hard to decipher - seems to have a lot of things I assume are extracurricular, like mindfulness and yoga. Not sure if it's like college, where there's lots of tutorials on the schedule but you only attend once every two weeks when its your turn etc.

Either way, it looks like there's usually one day a week where there's only 2 hours of so of classes, and the rest tends to be 5-8 hours of lectures a day - no idea what the workload is going to be like though.

Yohnathan

I would love to know the hours required etc aswel. I am trying to secure a training contract with my employer and although I don't think they would require me to work during PPC1, I would like to be able to tell them if I can provide any help or work during the week.

Ngannou54

Yohnathan wrote: »

I would love to know the hours required etc aswel. I am trying to secure a training contract with my employer and although I don't think they would require me to work during PPC1, I would like to be able to tell them if I can provide any help or work during the week.

If anyone could clarify the hours (how many, spaces between lectures etc?) I've also heard some people are lucky enough to have fridays off...is this true?

Ngannou54

Ngannou54 wrote: »

If anyone could clarify the hours (how many, spaces between lectures etc?) I've also heard some people are lucky enough to have fridays off...is this true?

I'd be very grateful if a recent ppc1 student could pm me their timetable

leek15

Does anyone know how to apply for PPC 1? Are the application packs sent automatically on passing the FE1's or do you have to contact the Law Society? Thanks!

randomrb

leek15 wrote: »

Does anyone know how to apply for PPC 1? Are the application packs sent automatically on passing the FE1's or do you have to contact the Law Society? Thanks!

Email them or call them and they will send them out to you

Lostudent

leek15 wrote: »

Does anyone know how to apply for PPC 1? Are the application packs sent automatically on passing the FE1's or do you have to contact the Law Society? Thanks!

Just found out yesterday the deadline is June 14th (which they don't seem told anyone or published anywhere?!), you need to email lawschool@lawsociety.ie and they'll send an application pack.

Yohnathan

Am I reading it right or do we need to provide our Junior Cert results aswel?

Gunslinger92

Yohnathan wrote: »

Am I reading it right or do we need to provide our Junior Cert results aswel?

I don't see anything about junior cert results, where are you getting that :pac:

tommyh1979

Yohnathan wrote: »

Am I reading it right or do we need to provide our Junior Cert results aswel?

Not required

Yohnathan

Haha all the better so. Cheers guys. I had looked at it briefly last week and haven't looked at it since.

Patmo

Would anyone have any lists of suitable accommodations?

FE!student

Could anyone give me a rough idea of the workload involved during PPC1 in terms of preparation for lectures/tutorials, and in particular the number of assignments involved. Also, how many exams and are exams only on in March at the end of the course. Thanks.

BasedHobbes

FE!student wrote: »

Could anyone give me a rough idea of the workload involved during PPC1 in terms of preparation for lectures/tutorials, and in particular the number of assignments involved. Also, how many exams and are exams only on in March at the end of the course. Thanks.

My understanding from reading a friend’s timetable was 3-4 hrs a day if you’re going to lectures, and a fair bit less if you’re not. As for workload, I was told there is some work, but it tends to be relatively easy.

Lostudent

Anyone get this email regarding 'PPC Hybrid'?! I just submitted my application - if this means I can avoid moving to Dublin for months now, this has actually made my year.....

Introducing the new PPC Hybrid - starting January 2020


Law Society of Ireland’s Law School

Dear Colleague,

Congratulations on successfully attaining your FE-1.

The Law School is delighted to introduce our new Professional Practice Course Hybrid (PPC Hybrid) which will commence on the 10 of January 2020. This new course delivers an optimised blended learning experience. The combination of online lectures with face-to-face tuition provides a flexible route into practice without the requirement to be onsite in the Law School for a six month period. Both the PPC I and the PPC II will be offered in the hybrid (blended learning format). The PPC Hybrid option includes:

Online block release of lectures in play on demand mode.
On-site face-to-face tuition through weekend sessions (ten such monthly weekend session for the PPC I).
On-site educationally immersive week-long sessions (two such weeklong sessions for the PPC I).

The PPC Hybrid will commence on 10 of January 2020, with the PPC I exams occurring in October 2020. (Just to confirm, the standard PPC will of course also proceed as normal in September 2019). The course is structured so that you will potentially be able to continue working during the PPC I. The same two year in office training requirement will apply, but you may also be in a position to accrue credit of up to five months for in-office training occurring during the PPC I. (The PPC II for the PPC Hybrid will commence in August 2021)

DIGITAL LEARNING RESOURCES

Accessibility is one of the key factors in providing the PPC Hybrid option. We appreciate for many reasons some of you may not be able to relocate to Dublin for a six-month period to pursue your route to becoming a solicitor. Technological innovations are embedded throughout this course to provide a flexible student-centric experience. Digital course features include:

Complimentary apple iPad.
Online block release of lectures in play on demand mode.
Access to our customised virtual learning platform – StudyCloud.
Online course materials and reading lists.
Interactive learning e-resources.
Online conferencing with fellow students, study groups and course forums.
Engaging revisionary tools.

HOW TO APPLY

The criteria for the PPC Hybrid is exactly the same as the standard PPC, namely:

Passed, or gained exemption from the Preliminary Examination.
Passed the Final Examination - First Part (FE1).
Found a suitable (practising) solicitor to act as a training solicitor.

The course fees for the PPC Hybrid are also the same as for the standard route, namely €8,300 for the PPC I and €4,500 for the PPC II.

There are limited spaces available on the PPC Hybrid starting in January 2020. Places will be provided on a first come first served basis. (We accept a maximum of 10 applications from any one firm). In order to secure a place on the course, we must first receive a completed application pack. To receive your application pack please email us on ppchybrid@lawsociety.ie

I look forward to hearing from you and would like to wish you well in your future studies!

vid36

Lostudent wrote: »

Anyone get this email regarding 'PPC Hybrid'?! I just submitted my application - if this means I can avoid moving to Dublin for months now, this has actually made my year.....

I got that email as well.It looks like a very interesting option, if I can find a training solicitor in time.No need to have the expense of 6 months living in Dublin.It is a pity they didn't announce it sooner.

leek15

In relation to the new hybrid course, can anyone tell me what the benefits are aside from not having to move to Dublin (which I know is huge for anyone not living here)?

As I understand the email, its takes longer to qualify and you would have to work while you study and it still costs the same amount? I'm not knocking it by any means but the email has confused me and just want to make sure I am not missing something before I submit any applications? Thanks!

vid36

leek15 wrote: »

In relation to the new hybrid course, can anyone tell me what the benefits are aside from not having to move to Dublin (which I know is huge for anyone not living here)?

As I understand the email, its takes longer to qualify and you would have to work while you study and it still costs the same amount? I'm not knocking it by any means but the email has confused me and just want to make sure I am not missing something before I submit any applications? Thanks!

The only other benefit apart from not moving to Dublin is that you can continue working while you complete PPC1 but you are correct, it will take several months longer to qualify.

extra gravy

I've considered doing the FE1s in the past but having to move to Dublin was an impossibility for me. Maybe this hybrid programme means I could finally do them.

Small Wonder

Yohnathan wrote: »

Am I reading it right or do we need to provide our Junior Cert results aswel?

Just on the topic of school results, is there a section in the application pack that asks for Leaving Certificate results?

I never sat my LC. I completed my LL.B as a mature student and now I'm halfway through my FE1s. I thought (hoped!) I wouldn't have to worry about the LC anymore.

tommyh1979

Small Wonder wrote: »

Just on the topic of school results, is there a section in the application pack that asks for Leaving Certificate results?

I never sat my LC. I completed my LL.B as a mature student and now I'm halfway through my FE1s. I thought (hoped!) I wouldn't have to worry about the LC anymore.

I've just applied for PPC 1 the LC details were not a major factor, if you have degree plus FE1's you're suitable.

Small Wonder

tommyh1979 wrote: »

I've just applied for PPC 1 the LC details were not a major factor, if you have degree plus FE1's you're suitable.

That's good to hear. The LC has been my great white albatross for the past 18 years.

lawless11

Small Wonder wrote: »

That's good to hear. The LC has been my great white albatross for the past 18 years.

Don't worry, they only ask about (if any) degree(s) was/were obtained in the different schools/universities you attended... until primary school lol. So I just filled it with the schools' details, and where relevant the name of the exam/degree obtained.

Only proof asked is the law degree so you'll have to send the original degree or certified transcripts, or a university letter.


On another note, I'd really be interested in knowing what the average timetable is too! If anyone could PM me about that, I'd appreciate it .

Small Wonder

lawless11 wrote: »

Don't worry, they only ask about (if any) degree(s) was/were obtained in the different schools/universities you attended... until primary school lol. So I just filled it with the schools' details, and where relevant the name of the exam/degree obtained.

Only proof asked is the law degree so you'll have to send the original degree or certified transcripts, or a university letter.

Thanks for that!

tommyh1979

It's 30 hours a week according to the admin in the Law Society...more than I thought. She sent me last years time table I'll attach if find out how

lawless11

tommyh1979 wrote: »

It's 30 hours a week according to the admin in the Law Society...more than I thought. She sent me last years time table I'll attach if find out how

You can attach a picture to your post, or insert a link! Thanks for that.

tommyh1979

its a pdf doc over 150 pages

lawless11

tommyh1979 wrote: »

its a pdf doc over 150 pages

Wow okay aha! Then I suppose the most practical way would be to host it on a hosting website (like google docs, media fire etc...) and put a link here for those interested.

tommyh1979

lawless11 wrote: »

Wow okay aha! Then I suppose the most practical way would be to host it on a hosting website (like google docs, media fire etc...) and put a link here for those interested.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DeJiPIdjhhBSmyb4kpGhmzVBBf-7Mm7n/view

Yohnathan

Hi all,

Are any of you now considering the PPC Hybrid?

lawless11

Yohnathan wrote: »

Hi all,

Are any of you now considering the PPC Hybrid?

No but because I'm already up for September & in Dublin. However it does look interesting for those that are not around the capital I guess!

vid36

I will do the Hybrid, if I can get the traineeship sorted in time.

tommyh1979

is it possible to sign up for this for the september classes

vid36

No, the Hybrid starts in January.

yournerd

Does anyone know who can witness the form 4 indentures? Can it be another solicitor in the firm?

lawless11

Are lockers useful for PPC1? Any experience in that regard?

LegallyB45

Is the link to make an iPad selection not working for anyone else?

lawless11

LegallyB45 wrote: »

Is the link to make an iPad selection not working for anyone else?

Just make a search on the website 'PPC1 ipad' you'll have the options below and then click on the one that you want, then 'purchase' etc.

yournerd

lawless11 wrote: »

Just make a search on the website 'PPC1 ipad' you'll have the options below and then click on the one that you want, then 'purchase' etc.

When can you purchase the iPad ? Do u need your indentures back ?

Gunslinger92

yournerd wrote: »

When can you purchase the iPad ? Do u need your indentures back ?

No you can buy them from today. I'm not gonna bother I got a locker though

yournerd

What’s the best iPad ?

randomrb

lawless11 wrote: »

Are lockers useful for PPC1? Any experience in that regard?

If you have any kind of commute it is handy. I found it very useful not to have to drag all my books to and from blackhall

marc24

Hi Has anyone been able to access the timetable? It says on the website its available since yesterday but there's no link to click

lawless11

marc24 wrote: »

Hi Has anyone been able to access the timetable? It says on the website its available since yesterday but there's no link to click

No haven't seen any clickable link either! Maybe if someone emailed them, they could put it up if they forgot.
Btw did anyone receive information about iPads etc, because I didn't receive any emails from the law society (or my firm) about it. Found out by myself.

yournerd

lawless11 wrote: »

No haven't seen any clickable link either! Maybe if someone emailed them, they could put it up if they forgot.
Btw did anyone receive information about iPads etc, because I didn't receive any emails from the law society (or my firm) about it. Found out by myself.

Can anyone see the timetable?

leek15

There's a link for the timetable up now although its fairly hard to understand.

lawless11

leek15 wrote: »

There's a link for the timetable up now although its fairly hard to understand.

Basically depending on what "Core" we will be, it will all take shape I guess. There's that alphabetical thing too, but I've no idea then.

Lostudent

Information brochure on the PPC Hybrid online course is now available, for those still undecided:
https://www.lawsociety.ie/globalassets/documents/education/ppc-hybrid/ppc-hybrid-brochure.pdf

Leraf

Is anyone considering the Hybrid Course and currently working with their training solicitor. I was wondering how the credit system worked. It says you are entitled to five months credit for working in the firm prior to PPC1 and that you could also earn a further 4 months credit for working with your training solicitor during PPC1. Does this then mean that you do not have to train for the full 24 months and instead, with the credit, can qualify in 15 months?


Any thoughts appreciated.

vid36

I believe that is correct. I am also considering the Hybrid course and from the information contained in the pack ,it appears to be correct.

vid36

I think you can earn five months credit during the PPC1.Four months credit prior to PPC1