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Aeroflot Sukhoi Superjet 100 Catches Fire

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Just looking at it on social media, looks horrendous.


    Edit: the picture is changing and it looks there may be some fatalities. Sources reporting 6 may have perished.

    Latest available footage suggests the aircraft may have already been well on fire before landing


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    Horrendous sight. 

    It does appear the aircraft could have been on fire before touchdown, the flames were advanced enough to engulf the entire rear portion of the fuselage while the aircraft was still at considerable speed on the runway.

    Images of the aircraft post fire show the entire tail section and rear cabin destroyed while the wings, engines and forward fuselage remain relatively untouched. 

    Can only hope casualties are kept to a minimum but it doesn't look good sadly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Unfortunately emergency services have stated there were 13 fatalities. RIP

    https://avherald.com/h?article=4c78f3e6&opt=0


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,399 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Where was the equipment?!

    One of those clips is 48 seconds long and no sign of any fire fighting apparatus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    No fire before landing. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMwJkZ7QLY4&feature=youtu.be

    Looks like they had to land high and fast, gear collapsed after second touchdown and ruptured the fuel tanks resulting in the fire.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭BlackandGreen


    cson wrote: »
    Where was the equipment?!

    One of those clips is 48 seconds long and no sign of any fire fighting apparatus.


    isn't the response time usually 3 minutes? even if the alarm was sounded almost instantly id say any airport would be hard pushed to have fire appliances there in under 50 seconds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭fg1406


    Footage allegedly taken inside the aircraft. It’s quite distressing.

    https://www.facebook.com/431938913548429/posts/2243135492428753?s=671918583&v=e&sfns=mo


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Looks like plane landed fast, bounced, touched down very hard and broke the gear, and caught fire. However below has now appeared on social media translated from https://t.me/petromarkovskiy/1191

    If true, the aircraft lost electrics following a lightning strike


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,399 ✭✭✭✭cson


    isn't the response time usually 3 minutes? even if the alarm was sounded almost instantly id say any airport would be hard pushed to have fire appliances there in under 50 seconds.

    Should been waiting, that's standard practice I'd imagine with emergencies - you hear ATC asking crew all the time.

    Sounds like the pilots are in the same boat wondering where they were judging from the link above.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,967 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Dreadful accident


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,390 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    fg1406 wrote: »
    Footage allegedly taken inside the aircraft. It’s quite distressing.

    https://www.facebook.com/431938913548429/posts/2243135492428753?s=671918583&v=e&sfns=mo

    That's harrowing footage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,796 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Dreadful accident

    Incident.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,729 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    cson wrote: »
    Should been waiting, that's standard practice I'd imagine with emergencies - you hear ATC asking crew all the time.

    Sounds like the pilots are in the same boat wondering where they were judging from the link above.

    Apparently there was 30 mins between takeoff and emergency landing, you'd expect a quicker response in those circumstances.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Video of the landing from another angle

    Spoilered it in case anyone dosnt want to see it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭ElNino


    There are several evacuating PAX carrying hand luggage in this video. One would have to wonder if that cost others their lives.



  • Registered Users Posts: 81,111 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Anyone coming out with their hand luggage should be locked up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Anyone coming out with their hand luggage should be locked up.

    They are suffering severe shock,it quiet a normal reaction for some


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭dreamliner


    ZX7R wrote: »
    They are suffering severe shock,it quiet a normal reaction for some

    Having spent enough time in eastern europe and dealing with the soviet mentality, it isn't just shock. They can have a flagrant disregard for any rules and be totally ignorant to their surroundings, their material possessions would be #1 on their mind at such a time. This is where people's true character shows.


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dreamliner wrote: »
    Having spent enough time in eastern europe and dealing with the soviet mentality, it isn't just shock. They can have a flagrant disregard for any rules and be totally ignorant to their surroundings, their material possessions would be #1 on their mind at such a time. This is where people's true character shows.

    All aircraft should have locked overhead during takeoff and landing


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  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ElNino wrote: »
    There are several evacuating PAX carrying hand luggage in this video. One would have to wonder if that cost others their lives.

    I can only imagine so. Scumbags.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    dreamliner wrote: »
    Having spent enough time in eastern europe and dealing with the soviet mentality, it isn't just shock. They can have a flagrant disregard for any rules and be totally ignorant to their surroundings, their material possessions would be #1 on their mind at such a time. This is where people's true character shows.

    massive generalisation there.
    Ive lived in former soviet country for a long time and my experience is one of helping your fellow man not grab your bags at the expense of someone elses life:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    dreamliner wrote: »
    ZX7R wrote: »
    They are suffering severe shock,it quiet a normal reaction for some

    Having spent enough time in eastern europe and dealing with the soviet mentality, it isn't just shock. They can have a flagrant disregard for any rules and be totally ignorant to their surroundings, their material possessions would be #1 on their mind at such a time. This is where people's true character shows.

    Disgusting generalisation there given the circumstances.

    How does it explain;

    British Airways 2276
    American 383
    Asiana 214
    Ryanair 8841

    All of which witnessed the same issue of passengers grabbing hand luggage during a fire evacuation.

    By the way, I’ve also spent quite a lot of time in Eastern Europe and I’ve lived in a former Soviet Union country, your claim the people there have a flagrant disregard for rules couldn’t be further from the truth in my experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,022 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Anyone coming out with their hand luggage should be locked up.

    Some of them might of had the bags by their feet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    jvan wrote: »
    Anyone coming out with their hand luggage should be locked up.

    Some of them might of had the bags by their feet.

    In fairness that doesn’t really matter, it’s the risk of obstruction an item of hand luggage can cause, not just its location or time taken to retrieve it.

    All it takes is for one person to drop their bag of duty free and for the person behind to trip over it to cause a crush in the aisle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭no.8


    Spot on. It doesn't matter if the item is in the overhead or on the floor. It is a high risk inhibitor of a delayed exit / crush scenario.

    If right behind them id push them into the row, no qualms about that. Basically attempted murder in my eyes (especially here. If they took 1 look down the cabin they would of seen the Carnage at the back)

    RIP to all


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    dreamliner wrote: »
    Having spent enough time in eastern europe and dealing with the soviet mentality, it isn't just shock. They can have a flagrant disregard for any rules and be totally ignorant to their surroundings, their material possessions would be #1 on their mind at such a time. This is where people's true character shows.

    Really I married an easten European and thankfully the one's know are not in any way like that


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Unfair on the Rooskies, if there was a similar incident in Ireland, guaranteed you'd have some toolboxes blocking the aisle trying to retrieve their Macbook Air or duty-free shopping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    There's a few questions raised by this incident alright, but given it's the Russian flag carrier, flying a piece of Russian hardware, into a Russian airport, I wonder if the investigation will be totally transparent and trustworthy, or be more one of those Egyptian investigations.

    So far, if it was a lightning strike that took out all electronics - (a) Was it the instigator at all, and (b) if it was, losing all electronics irreparably after a strike is odd.

    If there was an incident, why weren't fire and rescue ready and waiting at the airport? There's some suggestion the aircraft lost all communications, but surely a 20-30 minute circling of the field doing weird turns might have alerted someone to a danger.

    And finally, yes, the perennial "people and their luggage during an evacuation". Every ground evacuation I've seen video of has had people coming off with their hand luggage. Seems there needs to be some changes in commonly accepted law around this, that if you come off a plane during an evacuation with any sort of a bag you're going to prison.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭Brennus335


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Unfair on the Rooskies, if there was a similar incident in Ireland, guaranteed you'd have some toolboxes blocking the aisle trying to retrieve their Macbook Air or duty-free shopping.

    It already did happen in Ireland.

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    AAIU report specifically addressed it:

    http://www.aaiu.ie/node/408


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