Local Elections 2019

road_high

Pretty low key in Kilkenny as usual, one of the most apolitical parts of Ireland.
Lot of cracked pots were elected last time in the form of SF and Breda Gardner, hopefully a good clear out coming in a few weeks of surely one of the worst council chambers in a long time. I don’t see that much anger with the government out there despite the efforts of the perpetually outraged.
Saying that, I really like Steph Hanlon PBP as young educated candidate. Deserves a chance, certainly streets ahead of the SF dregs after the same votes.
Down south, Melissa O’Neill in ferrybank is allegedly running in kilkenny and Waterford- she’s the drunken yob attacking her neighbors in various YouTube videos...

JohnMc1

Hopefully there will be a good clean out in a couple of weeks. Too many coasting on name now. Its criminal that the St. John's Parish doesn't have a Councillor [a Constituency Office doesn't count]

Nokia6230i

Careful what you wish for; you'll have Eugene & Luke in St. Johns Parish depending how the votes go.

Not sure if a Yes or No to the Mosque by ABP would benefit or damage eithers campaign; inevitably they'll spin it in a positive light for them if it's a a No that it's political interference or some such......

Was a bit shocked that the Druid is actually running; thought it was a belated April Fools til 12 Noon on Saturday!

Mankbag

Ah yes, the Druid is quite the believer in the democratic process, isn't he?!

Eugene McGuinness a live outsider in the city if dissatisfaction over the mosque translates into votes?

Depressing to see Martin Brett and John Coonan back after they took their redundancy money.

road_high

Mankbag wrote: »

Ah yes, the Druid is quite the believer in the democratic process, isn't he?!

Eugene McGuinness a live outsider in the city if dissatisfaction over the mosque translates into votes?

Depressing to see Martin Brett and John Coonan back after they took their redundancy money.

The Mosque is irrelevant to most people, just hysteria whipped up over nothing. It’ll be satisfying to see the Druid fall on his arse yet again.
Agree about the redundancy, should only be on until basis of not running again.

Joe Daly

It is sad to see a person like Pat O Neill going for the local elections he is not even running in his own area this time, leave it to the younger generation I say.

JohnMc1

road_high wrote: »

The Mosque is irrelevant to most people, just hysteria whipped up over nothing. .

The area is already a traffic nightmare [Nowlan Park, O'Loughlin Gaels club, St. Kieran's Cemetery, Aldis and the Industrial Estate, New Park shopping Centre and Lakeside, Linntown Hall and Bishop Birch Place all in that area] adding the mosque and their 2,000 person apartment complex [now under the guise of a hotel] is hardly hysteria whipped up over nothing.

Nokia6230i

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The area is already a traffic nightmare [Nowlan Park, O'Loughlin Gaels club, St. Kieran's Cemetery, Aldis and the Industrial Estate, New Park shopping Centre and Lakeside, Linntown Hall and Bishop Birch Place all in that area] adding the mosque and their 2,000 person apartment complex [now under the guise of a hotel] is hardly hysteria whipped up over nothing.

"...and their 2,000 person apartment complex [now under the guise of a hotel] is hardly hysteria whipped up over nothing."

2,000? Is that all? I thought for the 1 Million Migrants (and apparently "Migrants" now means Muslims/Sallow Skinned/Tanned/Black only..) being brought in to swamp/sink the country and take over by 2040 would mean it's for 250,000 no?

Dayr taken ar jobz/women/children/houses do.....

JohnMc1

Nokia6230i wrote: »

"...and their 2,000 person apartment complex [now under the guise of a hotel] is hardly hysteria whipped up over nothing."

2,000? Is that all? I thought for the 1 Million Migrants (and apparently "Migrants" now means Muslims/Sallow Skinned/Tanned/Black only..) being brought in to swamp/sink the country and take over by 2040 would mean it's for 250,000 no?

Dayr taken ar jobz/women/children/houses do.....

Thank You for adding absolutely nothing of value here.

Nokia6230i

Eugene McGuinness was a no show on this mornings KCLR Live Debate; "prior engagement".

He's been cowardly; on his social media recently indicating he's going on but backs out last minute?

And he wants votes?

road_high

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Eugene McGuinness was a no show on this mornings KCLR Live Debate; "prior engagement".

He's been cowardly; on his social media recently indicating he's going on but backs out last minute?

And he wants votes?

Has a jeep and trailer going around town- big yellow signage- "I spoke up when others stood silent..." parked up by the Hebron road beside the proposed Mosque area. He really is a shameless charlaton.
Clearly the brother is bankrolling his campaign.

Mankbag

road_high wrote: »

Has a jeep and trailer going around town- big yellow signage- "I spoke up when others stood silent..." parked up by the Hebron road beside the proposed Mosque area. He really is a shameless charlaton.
Clearly the brother is bankrolling his campaign.

I'm not sure about the last bit. They don't get on at all and haven't for years.

JohnMc1

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Eugene McGuinness was a no show on this mornings KCLR Live Debate; "prior engagement".

He's been cowardly; on his social media recently indicating he's going on but backs out last minute?

And he wants votes?

John and Andrew are the same way. Notice how John only mouths of when he thinks he's politically safe? Everything else he goes into hiding.

The fact that John and Andrew keep getting elected proves there's a cult of personality going on in Kilkenny.

1984baby

road_high wrote: »

Has a jeep and trailer going around town- big yellow signage- "I spoke up when others stood silent..." parked up by the Hebron road beside the proposed Mosque area. He really is a shameless charlaton.
Clearly the brother is bankrolling his campaign.

Doubt it, afaik they do not talk to each other at all.

JohnMc1

1984baby wrote: »

Doubt it, afaik they do not talk to each other at all.

Yes because Eugene ran for the Council last time as well. He thought he would take votes away from his precious Andrew.

BoroMan32

1984baby wrote: »

Doubt it, afaik they do not talk to each other at all.

Correct. Just goes to show you get people mouthing off on here when they actually know f**k all.

road_high

BoroMan32 wrote: »

Correct. Just goes to show you get people mouthing off on here when they actually know f**k all.

Well why don’t you enlighten us all then? Far as I’m concerned all Mcguinness’s are useless populist idiots playing to the dimmest gallery possible in Kilkenny. I don’t see any difference. The father had a nice Junior ministry going on but couldn’t last more than a few months without screwing it up, such is the political ineptitude.

Nokia6230i

Well if the McGuinness clan/dynasty are indeed useless populist idiots (and John seems to want to be FF when it suits him but won't do a Jackie Healy-Rae on it just in case it might cost him his seat or a few votes; Andrew seems to hunt with the hare and run with the hounds; his stance on Mosque was nauseating; he continues to deny he organised that meeting which was unnecessary; he uses word "facilitated"; John was present on the night) then Eugene's playing to a similar gallery of idiots.

road_high

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Well if the McGuinness clan/dynasty are indeed useless populist idiots (and John seems to want to be FF when it suits him but won't do a Jackie Healy-Rae on it just in case it might cost him his seat or a few votes; Andrew seems to hunt with the hare and run with the hounds; his stance on Mosque was nauseating; he continues to deny he organised that meeting which was unnecessary; he uses word "facilitated"; John was present on the night) then Eugene's playing to a similar gallery of idiots.

That’s exactly what I mean- they’ll take whatever position they think the eternally dim will lap up and translate into votes. The Eugene lad is following the exact same script.
Mcguinness has been the pointless “opposer” for over a decade- even when FF were at their most destructive he was pretending to oppose (his own party) locally but voted with them in Leinster house. How so many thousands of voters see this as a credible position blows my mind and highlights how much the electorate are to blame for the woeful politicians we must endure here

road_high

That meeting was a disgusting episode, a real nasty low. The Mcguinness’s were fully involved in it, stirred the pot but then backed away once the controversy blew up.

JohnMc1

road_high wrote: »

That meeting was a disgusting episode, a real nasty low. The Mcguinness’s were fully involved in it, stirred the pot but then backed away once the controversy blew up.

The fact that Andrew was caught on camera a day or two later at the current mosque on the Freshford Road bent the knee to the Iman and pledged his support should tell you how two faced they are [or atleast John and his Mini-Me are]

John and his Mini-Me are great reason for term limits.

JohnMc1

road_high wrote: »

That’s exactly what I mean- they’ll take whatever position they think the eternally dim will lap up and translate into votes. The Eugene lad is following the exact same script.
Mcguinness has been the pointless “opposer” for over a decade- even when FF were at their most destructive he was pretending to oppose (his own party) locally but voted with them in Leinster house. How so many thousands of voters see this as a credible position blows my mind and highlights how much the electorate are to blame for the woeful politicians we must endure here

I've always noticed that John loves to come down here and run his mouth on KCLR and to the People that he's "fighting for the people." and such nonsense, but sits in Leinster House all quiet while his own party and the current Govt destroy the livelihood of the people he claims to be fighting for. He should have been sent home years ago.

road_high

JohnMc1 wrote: »

I've always noticed that John loves to come down here and run his mouth on KCLR and to the People that he's "fighting for the people." and such nonsense, but sits in Leinster House all quiet while his own party and the current Govt destroy the livelihood of the people he claims to be fighting for. He should have been sent home years ago.

It’s his stock and trade. Unfortunately so many people can’t see through the hypocrisy and ineffectiveness of his populism hence he’s a poll topper, speaking from both sides of his arse. This is someone that was calling from an election in the middle of the brexit crisis after all

JohnMc1

road_high wrote: »

It’s his stock and trade. Unfortunately so many people can’t see through the hypocrisy and ineffectiveness of his populism hence he’s a poll topper, speaking from both sides of his arse. This is someone that was calling from an election in the middle of the brexit crisis after all

That's just a scam to deflect from his own party protecting Fg throughout all these scandals. He's desperately trying to cling to " We really are the opposition." guise.

Cabaal

JohnMc1 wrote: »

That's just a scam to deflect from his own party protecting Fg throughout all these scandals. He's desperately trying to cling to " We really are the opposition." guise.

John barely comes across as FF, his posters have always done their best to hide that he is FF compared to every other FF running.

JohnMc1

Cabaal wrote: »

John barely comes across as FF, his posters have always done their best to hide that he is FF compared to every other FF running.

Then he should just leave the party already if he's that desperate to hide his association with them.

Cabaal

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Then he should just leave the party already if he's that desperate to hide his association with them.

He knows he can get away with being a member of FF but acting like an independent, it suits FF I guess because he wins them votes.

I don't get it personally, you are either in a party or not. If you don't like a party or its policy's then leave it.

We've had a few refs where he also went against the party in a public manner as well.

Nokia6230i

Looking through a certain "Independent" Co. Cllrs. personal & political page; it's like they subscribe to every single conspiracy theory going......

Same individual is running in Tramore-West Waterford too.

Problem for other candidates is because of her somewhat controversial or indeed bat s**t crazy views, she'll romp home in Piltown/South Kilkenny and perhaps Tramore/West Waterford also.

Should she be successful in both she will have to nominate a substitute in one of the districts; shouldn't voters be informed of this in advance to aid their decision making?

road_high

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Looking through a certain "Independent" Co. Cllrs. personal & political page; it's like they subscribe to every single conspiracy theory going......

Same individual is running in Tramore-West Waterford too.

Problem for other candidates is because of her somewhat controversial or indeed bat s**t crazy views, she'll romp home in Piltown/South Kilkenny and perhaps Tramore/West Waterford also.

Should she be successful in both she will have to nominate a substitute in one of the districts; shouldn't voters be informed of this in advance to aid their decision making?

Is that the mellissa O’NEILL one? Clearly all the alcohol has fried whatever brain cell she initially may have had coupled with way too much time on her hands
I sincerely hope the voters of south Kilkenny have some sense this time and jettison this loon

Stopitwillya

road_high wrote: »

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Looking through a certain "Independent" Co. Cllrs. personal & political page; it's like they subscribe to every single conspiracy theory going......

Same individual is running in Tramore-West Waterford too.

Problem for other candidates is because of her somewhat controversial or indeed bat s**t crazy views, she'll romp home in Piltown/South Kilkenny and perhaps Tramore/West Waterford also.

Should she be successful in both she will have to nominate a substitute in one of the districts; shouldn't voters be informed of this in advance to aid their decision making?

Is that the mellissa O’NEILL one? Clearly all the alcohol has fried whatever brain cell she initially may have had coupled with way too much time on her hands
I sincerely hope the voters of south Kilkenny have some sense this time and jettison this loon

She won't get much votes in the Waterford election. (Ferrybank, tramore and parts of rural east Waterford). Maybe some in ferrybank but Tramore being the biggest population with 11,000 people will provide the majority of councillors). She is a loon and having looked at the Kilkenny journal recently there seems to be a lot of them running for the Kilkenny council.

road_high

Stopitwillya wrote: »

She won't get much votes in the Waterford election. (Ferrybank, tramore and parts of rural east Waterford). Maybe some in ferrybank but Tramore being the biggest population with 11,000 people will provide the majority of councillors). She is a loon and having looked at the Kilkenny journal recently there seems to be a lot of them running for the Kilkenny council.

Dreadful fruit cake. And dangerous to boot. Kilkenny council seems to be a lightning rod for them currently

Cabaal

Stopitwillya wrote: »

She is a loon and having looked at the Kilkenny journal recently there seems to be a lot of them running for the Kilkenny council.

To be fair, reading the kilkenny journal is like looking into a hole full of crazy
Nobody should waste their time with it

road_high

Cabaal wrote: »

To be fair, reading the kilkenny journal is like looking into a hole full of crazy
Nobody should waste their time with it

Absolute scutter. Such a shame that loon monopolised the title as it sounds legitimate. He must have recovered from his meltdown post the last referendum. Really hope the people of Callan/Thomastown district have more sense.

up for anything

JohnMc1 wrote: »

The area is already a traffic nightmare [Nowlan Park, O'Loughlin Gaels club, St. Kieran's Cemetery, Aldis and the Industrial Estate, New Park shopping Centre and Lakeside, Linntown Hall and Bishop Birch Place all in that area] adding the mosque and their 2,000 person apartment complex [now under the guise of a hotel] is hardly hysteria whipped up over nothing.

If I hear anymore about the traffic in that area I'll break another rib laughing. Apparently, you can hardly walk on some of the pavements in the area either because they're thronged with people. Apart from the matches or training sessions that area is great to get around. The only other black spot of traffic is the coming out of the industrial estate at the traffic lights and I'm being tongue-in-cheek with that. It's such a lame excuse.

I'd love to see some concrete details on the link between the mosque and the hotel that you are talking about, John?

As for Eugene, he scuttled around my estate dropping in leaflets but not knocking on the doors. When I saw my leaflet I whipped out the front door and he was across the road... our eyes met... he knew I was looking to speak to him and unlike every other politician running he turned tail and made himself busy with his leaflets. Any of the others on seeing an eager punter would have run across the road and made lengthy contact. I think he knew without me even speaking. :pac:

Cabaal

Got a leaflet through the door from a Dolores Cahill
Very sneaky candidate for this bunch of loons https://www.irexitfreedom.ie/

Only mention she is anything to do with the party is the URL in the bottom right hand side of the leaflet on the back.

I've since dumped the flyer but I note that the copy she has on her own website actually has NO mention what so ever of the Irexit crowd URL. (see below)
Yet she is Chairwoman of the Party in question.

Extremely underhanded dodgy tactics going on,

road_high

Is the photo alone not a strong hint?!

Gentleman Off The Pitch

road_high wrote: »

Is the photo alone not a strong hint?!

What do you mean, a hint at what?

Cabaal

Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »

What do you mean, a hint at what?

I'd also be curious what the answer to this is,

My only thought is perhaps it was a stock photo, as a political party Irexit crowd have been previously found to use stock photos and make up people that didn't actually exist.

The party claimed it was a false story, but their website did have her listed along with another stock photo candidate. Both were later removed.

See screenshots below

Bowlardo

How are the elections

Nokia6230i

Looking like Eugene McGuinness got the racists out; 851 1st Preference Votes as per KCLR/Tallies.....

Melissa O'Neill in the mid 200s so looking hairy for her.

Breda Gardner (Ind.) & David Kennedy (SF) in bother too.

Bowlardo

Nokia6230i wrote: »

Looking like Eugene McGuinness got the racists out; 851 1st Preference Votes as per KCLR/Tallies.....

Melissa O'Neill in the mid 200s so looking hairy for her.

Breda Gardner (Ind.) & David Kennedy (SF) in bother too.

Do you have the link for where you getting the updates
I’m not on Twitter

Nokia6230i

Just updates on KCLR with MAV & Sinead Burke; tune back into them at around 4:45pm before they go to the GAA.

They're also updating it on their KCLR Facebook page.

robwen

Callan Thomastown Tally

Carroll, John 40
Cleere, Peter 1739
Cullen, Deirdre 836
Doran, Matt 1739
Doyle, Michael 1225
Finegan, Trish 360
Gardner, Breda 785
Kelly, John 331
Kennedy, David 709
Lyons, Joe 977
McGrath, Michael, 105
O'Neill, Patrick 1353

South Tally

Aylward 1009
Breathnach 1506
Curran 85
Doherty 1032
Doyle 662
Duggan 596
Dunphy 1547
Frisby 951
Hayes 321
O'Neill 243

Kilkenny City Tally

Brett 472
Cleere 314
Coonan 669
Fitzgerald 1181
Hanlon 243
Kelly 313
Kennedy 160
Joe Malone 1261
Andrew McGuinness 1898
Eugene McGuinness 851
Noonan 1503
O'Connor 235
Tyrrell 527
Walsh 43

North Tally

Brennan, John - 1099
Cavanagh, Mary Hilda -1594
Delaney, Michael 936
Fitzpatrick, Pat 2100
Hynes, Denis, 1047
Kavanagh, Joseph 469
McCarthy, Michael 1482
O'Neill, Pat 776

Nokia6230i

Looks like Cllr. Melissa O'Neills SF vote has avoided her big time.

robwen

Castlecomer Count 1
Count 1



Electorate 19146



Total poll 10358



Invalid papers 233



Valid poll 10125



Quota 1447



Brennan John, FG, 1,189

Cavanagh, Mary Hilda FG, 1,687

Delaney, Michael FF, 985

Fitzpatrick, Pat FF, 2,249

Hynes, Denis LAB, 1098

Kavanagh, Joseph SF, 507

McCarthy, Michael, FF 1,591

O'Neill, Pat FG 819



Pat Fitzpatrick, Cavanagh, McCarthy all elected



Fitzpatrick surplus of 802 to be distributed.

road_high

The Melissa O’Neill one is gone from south Kilkenny. A good days work indeed

road_high

Also Breda Gardner is on the way out too? Very good news also if true.

Nokia6230i

road_high wrote: »

Also Breda Gardner is on the way out too? Very good news also if true.

She should've concentrated on the locals; can't understand her logic of EP Elections; diluted her vote and will cost her a seat now.

road_high

Nokia6230i wrote: »

She should've concentrated on the locals; can't understand her logic of EP Elections; diluted her vote and will cost her a seat now.

One word- delusion

robwen

road_high wrote: »

The Melissa O’Neill one is gone from south Kilkenny. A good days work indeed

Any word how she did in Waterford city west can't find any figures for there

road_high

robwen wrote: »

Any word how she did in Waterford city west can't find any figures for there

Hard to find but I saw she got a whopping 81 votes there. So democracy does work !