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Rusty car and NCT

  • 01-05-2019 10:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3


    Hi all !

    Just wondering if anyone has any idea on rust on a car and how you go on with passing your nct ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Cobi15 wrote: »
    Hi all !

    Just wondering if anyone has any idea on rust on a car and how you go on with passing your nct ?

    More info needed.

    If it's only body work and no major holes or sharp edges should be ok but structural or break lines etc it would be a fail.

    Put up a pic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭Interslice


    Cobi15 wrote: »
    Hi all !

    Just wondering if anyone has any idea on rust on a car and how you go on with passing your nct ?

    Depends on where it is and how deep its going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Cobi15


    How do I add pictures to this ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    If you Google the NCT manual, pages 56-62 go into good detail on what kinds and quantity of rust are ok and in what areas.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You can't as there's a post limit for new user cos of spammers in the past. If you like and you have a link to pics then maybe put that in a post but take out the www. part of it and I can add it so it shows up for you.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Cobi15


    The pictures are on my phone, so wouldn’t be able to link them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭bessboroughboy


    Cobi15 wrote: »
    Hi all !

    Just wondering if anyone has any idea on rust on a car and how you go on with passing your nct ?

    In my experience (rusty sills) I suspect that they won't "test tap" the area unless they know that it can be easily broken through and proved to be badly corroded.

    In other words, it it looks "delicate" they'll "test tap" it but they won't want to cause obvious damage that only serves to show that the area was structurally sound after all.

    Sometimes you can take a chance on a second opinion by simply waiting more than 4 weeks and going for a retest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭lalababa


    If you have trusted independent garage put in for check OR do test, if fail on rust, put into independent garage and ask them repairs, if not too much to do on underside body, they will just wire brush or clean a little and paint a black tar like paint on and bobs your uncle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Because there is AFAIK structural rust fail..ie something is actually very weak AND visual body rust fail..ie alot of body looks rusty -surface rust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Or if body rust is painted over and looks fair...they won't 'tap' it to see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Go do the test.
    Fix what they fail it on.
    If it is not structural rust then might not need to fix it.


    What car is it?
    Year?
    Where is the rust?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Wouldn't go covering up rust to pass a test unless you were 100% sure that it was not structural


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Wouldn't go covering up rust to pass a test unless you were 100% sure that it was not structural

    And not within 300mm of any structural element.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    if you get repairs after a fail, don't paint the welded area, leave it so they can see how it was done.

    Think yourself lucky, with a CVRT you'd need an engineers report on repairs, in which case it makes sense to get them done before the test. With an NCT I'd do the test first as suggested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭PCX


    A few years ago I had a car fail on rust on bottom of car in the area of the front foot wells.

    I watched the test through the window in the centre and it was a very young guy doing the test and he took much longer than the guys on the other lanes - my guess was that he was new or an apprentice.

    Brought the car to the mechanic who put it up and had a look. He was shocked it failed. There was a brown colour partly from surface rust and partly dirt. Mechanic hit it with a hammer to show me and nowhere was it even nearly rusted through. He gave it a rub with a wire brush and applied some paint to the area. I brought it back - different tester- and it passed despite there being no structural repairs made to the car.

    I suppose the point is it might depend on which tester you get as to whether it'll pass or fail.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Bringing a car to the NCT with a rust blemish is always inviting a fail option.

    Visuals are always going to be a gamble. If you suspect any aspect of your car is going to be

    questionable for passing, then you should strongly consider fixing it before the NCT.

    Bringing a potential issue for testing, is like giving the buggers a stick to beat you.


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