Cancer FM

Atoms for Peace

What happened to Today fm today? It seems to have replaced with cancer fm, where they relentlessly tell you have a 50:50 change of being dead by 2020.
But don't worry it'll be alright if you just give more to the unaccountable charity industry.

Faugheen

They’re doing a big promotion to raise funds for the Irish Cancer Society.

But yeah, you keep bitching and being sarcastic about it.

Larbre34

What a churlish and fatuous post. I know I shouldn't throw crumbs to the troll, but you know full well it was a radio fund raiser, just like other stations do regularly for homeless charities and childrens hospices for example.

You must've been very fortunate to have been spared cancer in yourself or your family thus far, or as is most likely, your family are not close to you.

Luckily for you, despite being a bitter little eejit, if you got cancer tomorrow, it would cost you nothing to get very good treatment on the public system, one aspect of the health service people can be proud of.

As for the cancer charities, I can't speak for them all, but the support service they provided my family at tough times was priceless and I am very happy to support them in whatever way I can. Not just that but they supported the 4th level education of a relative of mine who is now involved in cutting edge cancer research here and abroad.

Go find another axe to grind.

Always Tired

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

What happened to Today today? It seems to have replaced with cancer fm, where they relentlessly tell you have a 50:50 change of being dead

Are you sure you're not actually tuned into Anton Chigurh FM?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

What happened to Today today? It seems to have replaced with cancer fm, where they relentlessly tell you have a 50:50 change of being dead by 2020.
But don't worry it'll be alright if you just give more to the unaccountable charity industry.

Are you for real?


What a deplorable attitude.

kneemos

The ubiquitous cancer charity. Where it goes,nobody knows.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

kneemos wrote: »

The ubiquitous cancer charity. Where it goes,nobody knows.

You'll find many people who has suffered through cancer, or who have family who had cancer, are well aware of where much of the work of cancer charities is centered. Palliative Care, Hospices, etc must, thankfully, be outside your experience.

OldMrBrennan83

Jaiden Happy Simplicity wrote: »

Are you for real?


What a deplorable attitude.

What's deplorable is where the money that's raised actually goes.

Larbre34

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

What's deplorable is where the money that's raised actually goes.

Wheres that? And in event your answer alleges impropriety, what proof have you?

OldMrBrennan83

Larbre34 wrote: »

Wheres that? And in event your answer alleges impropriety, what proof have you?

What proof have you there isn't?

Away and ****e.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

What's deplorable is where the money that's raised actually goes.

Ok, I have, unfortunately, seen on several occasions where cancer charities spend their funds and I can list the services they gave. Tell us where you have actually seen funds go that is deplorable.

batgoat

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

What's deplorable is where the money that's raised actually goes.

Charities offer support services that our government do not. Not a great reflection on our government but in general, most do a good job. So yep, I won't be outraged at a charity raising money.

Atoms for Peace

Haven't been spared from cancer but I take a very fatalistic attitude to illness.

pjohnson

Well not in the least bit suprised this is AH's take on a charitable event.

Atoms for Peace

pjohnson wrote: »

Well not in the least bit suprised this is AH's take on a charitable event.

I wasn't trying to be mean spirited, but Dermot and Dave et al is just banal background noise, I don't need the added misery fest. Today fm is the only decent commercial alternative to rte and Spotify is out as my colleagues wouldn't appreciate my taste of music.

Larbre34

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

What proof have you there isn't?

Away and ****e.

Thats not really the way it works you oddball.

There are 10,000 registered charities in Ireland and another 10,000 non-profits. 80 or so of them are connected to cancer support and research. Yes there have been a handful of charity scandals in recent years, perhaps 4 or 5, and they have been pursued. The likes of the Irish Cancer Society is a massive organisation with 1,000 staff and 11 directors and a professional executive staff. The 20 million they raise and spend is scrutinised internally and externally.

Just because you heard a story about Paul Kelly, or John Delaney is currently annoying you, don't assume serious charities arent well run and the people who fund raise for them dont keep on top of how they are run.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I wasn't trying to be mean spirited, but Dermot and Dave et al is just banal background noise, I don't need the added misery fest. Today fm is the only decent commercial alternative to rte and Spotify is out as my colleagues wouldn't appreciate my taste of music.

Yes, poor you, having to hear about people having cancer. That must be tough.

When I was diagnosed and had to quit work straight away, the cheque for €800 that I received from the Irish Cancer Society was much appreciated. It got me through whilst waiting on welfare payments.

razorblunt

Cancer is a cûnt if a disease but they should spread the wealth to other cancer charities and hospices.

griffin100

kneemos wrote: »

The ubiquitous cancer charity. Where it goes,nobody knows.

The Irish Cancer Society Annual Report for 2017 shows a total income of €26.9m with €11.1m or approx 41% spent on support services and research.

Jimmy_oc1998

Welcoming the newest content creator to Today FM!...Cancer

Odhinn

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

What's deplorable is where the money that's raised actually goes.

Wheres that then?

Jellybaby1

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

What's deplorable is where the money that's raised actually goes.

My Mother in law had a Daffodil Nurse in her home every day for weeks until she passed away. She lived out in the sticks and the nurse had to travel a lot. The family were very grateful for that expenditure by the Irish Cancer Society.

Grandeeod

I hope cancer doesn't visit any of your lives like it visited mine. I hope a subsequent stroke doesn't visit your lives either. Put those together and have fun. For the record no charities on either side had any real help to offer my family when it all happened. I guess its yet another industry to provide a wage mixed in with whatever they actually do.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

razorblunt wrote: »

Cancer is a cûnt if a disease but they should spread the wealth to other cancer charities and hospices.

I think there needs to be some consolidation of cancer charities. There’s a lot of redundancy. And charities for rarer cancers must struggle to raise decent amounts of money for research. At least the Irish Cancer Society covers all the different cancers. Funding for study in the rarer cancers might be easier to get off them than a more specialised charity.

Atoms for Peace

I'm not doubting they do good work. But so much is wasted in pointless duplication of services in the charity sector; which shouldn't be needed in the first place if the HSE was in anyway competent, but that another story.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I'm not doubting they do good work. But so much is wasted in pointless duplication of services in the charity sector; which shouldn't be needed in the first place if the HSE was in anyway competent, but that another story.

Cancer charities can fund research into cancer. That’s not the job of the HSE. And they can help support patients in day-to-day living. And set up support groups. I doubt people would be happy to hear that the HSE was funding things like that.

Gimme A Pound

It has become very fashionable to declare all charities are corrupt without actually knowing.

Dravokivich

Larbre34 wrote: »

Wheres that? And in event your answer alleges impropriety, what proof have you?

My brother has worked with 2 research organisations heavily funded by ICS. They were more focused on social events than the research. I've also had a friend who did door to door subscription fundraising and there was a lot of pressure on signing people up rather aggressively. I'm not too keen on'em on account of that. Charity tends to get looked at unquestionably, especially with something emotive such as cancer. I just find it hard to support anything like that now with such direct feedback on how things were done with ICS.

kneemos

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yes, poor you, having to hear about people having cancer. That must be tough.

When I was diagnosed and had to quit work straight away, the cheque for €800 that I received from the Irish Cancer Society was much appreciated. It got me through whilst waiting on welfare payments.

You can go to your local health clinic for advance payments if you're waiting on welfare.

No doubt it was useful for you,but I'm frankly disappointed that this is where their money is going.

super_furry

You know it's funny, I was only thinking that if there's one group of people who really get off lightly, it's people with cancer.

So edgy!

moonage

Charity money that goes to support sufferers and their families is well spent.

Charity money that goes to "fund research" is a total waste.

Atoms for Peace

We have universities for research. But for political reasons they're probably more focused on soft "science" these days.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

kneemos wrote: »

You can go to your local health clinic for advance payments if you're waiting on welfare.

No doubt it was useful for you,but I'm frankly disappointed that this is where their money is going.

That was how I saw the donation, it wasn’t their reasoning. They give one-off payments to only some cancer patients. I suspect just people who were terminal at diagnosis like I was. They couldn’t possibly give every cancer patient that one-off payment. Just those of us who are completely and totally beyond curing at first diagnosis and who will likely never step inside a workplace again. My welfare payments were backdated to diagnosis day once they started coming in but I was still very glad to get that small sum. It made things easier in those nightmarish first few weeks. Is it really that disappointing to you that a small sum is given to someone who will never earn again?

RollieFingers

I'm all for taking the p*ss and having a laugh but cancer is a no-no in my eyes, imagine thinking I'll go on the internet to have a moan about a radio station doing a promotion to raise funds for the ICS. They offer great support and services to people as evident from comments on the thread and I personally know from the help they gave to my old man when he was diagnosed.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

We have universities for research. But for political reasons they're probably more focused on soft "science" these days.

University research still relies on grants from various funding sources. Companies, charities etc.

kneemos

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

That was how I saw the donation, it wasn’t their reasoning. They give one-off payments to only some cancer patients. I suspect just people who were terminal at diagnosis like I was. They couldn’t possibly give every cancer patient that one-off payment. Just those of us who are completely and totally beyond curing at first diagnosis and who will likely never step inside a workplace again. My welfare payments were backdated to diagnosis day once they started coming in but I was still very glad to get that small sum. It made things easier in those nightmarish first few weeks. Is it really that disappointing to you that a small sum is given to someone who will never earn again?

Somewhat heartening that they don't give it out willy nilly.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

kneemos wrote: »

Somewhat heartening that they don't give it out willy nilly.

I think that would be impossible. And I think it’s reviewed often and depends on how much they raised that year. Some years maybe nobody gets anything. But it’s not just about research and medical care. Cancer disrupts lives way beyond that - there are everyday, immediately pressing concerns too. Why shouldn’t charities focus on that side of things too?

Ave Sodalis

moonage wrote:

Charity money that goes to support sufferers and their families is well spent.
Charity money that goes to "fund research" is a total waste.

My brother had cancer. My aunt had cancer twice. My uncle had cancer. Another uncle had cancer twice and died the second time. Being honest with myself, I'm probably going to get cancer at some stage in my life. I would very much like to be sure there is money there to research it so if/when I do get it, I have a chance to beat it. All the comfort in the world isn't going to help if progress into figuring out the disease is stopped. Research is expensive.

NIMAN

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

My brother had cancer. My aunt had cancer twice. My uncle had cancer. Another uncle had cancer twice and died the second time. Being honest with myself, I'm probably going to get cancer at some stage in my life. I would very much like to be sure there is money there to research it so if/when I do get it, I have a chance to beat it. All the comfort in the world isn't going to help if progress into figuring out the disease is stopped. Research is expensive.

Well to be fair you have a 50:50 chance, like myself.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

moonage wrote: »

Charity money that goes to support sufferers and their families is well spent.

Charity money that goes to "fund research" is a total waste.

Some late stage blood cancers and, in many cases, metastatic testicular cancer are completely curable now thanks to research. Lance Armstrong survived testicular cancer that had spread to his brain and lungs. He would have died a few short years before that. When I was a kid, childhood leukaemia was a sure death sentence. Now, survival is much more likely than dying. That’s all because of research. Hell, even someone like me who unfortunately will die from the disease has been given four years more life and counting because of all the new drugs becoming available. I can’t fathom why anyone would consider research a waste of money.