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San Diego synagogue shooting

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  • #2
    Your Face
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    I hope it's not part of a wider attack.


  • #3
    SharpshooterTom
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    One person dead, 3 others injured.

    Suspect is 19.


  • #4
    Manic Moran
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    Met with an aggressive response. Charged by an unarmed combat vet, and then shot at by an off-duty Border patrol agent who apparently was handed a firearm by another member of the congregation. That’s more or less how to do it. BP agent probably won’t leave his sidearm at home again next time.


  • #5
    kowloon
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    Looks like the guy being taken down quickly stopped further casualties. Not that it's any consolation for the victims.


  • #6
    James Brown
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    The silence on this is deafening. The US needs to give this kind of terror attack as much press as the others. Expecting for them to quietly go away won't stop more from happening.


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  • #7
    kowloon
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The silence on this is deafening. The US needs to give this kind of terror attack as much press as the others. Expecting for them to quietly go away won't stop more from happening.

    Maybe I'm cynical, but one death maybe isn't enough for them to bother much with.


  • #8
    Grayson
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The silence on this is deafening. The US needs to give this kind of terror attack as much press as the others. Expecting for them to quietly go away won't stop more from happening.

    In the US domestic terrorism isn't considered terrorism by the law enforcement agencies. Now I don't mean that they treat it as less important, I just mean that it's not considered a "terrorist" attack if it's been committed by a domestic terrorist with no international connections.


  • #9
    Your Face
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    Its quiet in AH alright.
    However, it was widely reported by our own press and was on the front pages of American newspapers on the days following the attack.
    Its still front page news on the LA area based papers.


  • #10
    riffmongous
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    Your Face wrote: »
    Its quiet in AH alright.
    However, it was widely reported by our own press and was on the front pages of American newspapers on the days following the attack.
    Its still front page news on the LA area based papers.

    It happened just after a big thread on anti-semitism had finished, I guess a lot had been said already. It is troubling that this guy was also a 'manifesto' internet type, going to be a few more of these in the future you would have to think


  • #11
    Berserker
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    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Met with an aggressive response. Charged by an unarmed combat vet, and then shot at by an off-duty Border patrol agent who apparently was handed a firearm by another member of the congregation. That’s more or less how to do it. BP agent probably won’t leave his sidearm at home again next time.

    Think it's the best responsible possible. Reducing the availability of weapons just isn't an option in the US, so an aggressive response like this is the best way to go.
    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The silence on this is deafening. The US needs to give this kind of terror attack as much press as the others. Expecting for them to quietly go away won't stop more from happening.

    I'm shocked by the lack of coverage on this side of the pond. But for the quick action of the BP agent and the vet this could easily have been another horrible attack.


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  • #12
    sdanseo
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    Not to detract from the heinous nature of the crime, but the US Govt doesn't even consider it a mass shooting unless 4 or more people are killed.

    There are probably countless more serious atrocities in the same state every day, if you count the number of deaths as the "seriousness".
    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Met with an aggressive response. Charged by an unarmed combat vet, and then shot at by an off-duty Border patrol agent who apparently was handed a firearm by another member of the congregation. That’s more or less how to do it. BP agent probably won’t leave his sidearm at home again next time.

    As much as many of us criticise US gun culture, the "good person with a gun" approach is an effective one. And the bravery of those who intervened is unquerstionable.

    The problem is, if you make it easy to arm every good guy, some bad guys will get guns too. Maybe they'll get them anyway. But an open proliferation of anything increases people's access. Even if they shouldn't have it.


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