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Acceptable time to ring in the morning?

  • 27-04-2019 1:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭


    My mother got a letter for an appointment with a consultant, date didn't suit so I rang and left a message to call me back.

    The following morning I got a call at 8.30am from the secretary returning my call, I felt this was a bit early to be making a call of this nature.

    As an aside she seemed very put out that we weren't fitting in with their plans, it was a special clinic I was told and was i sure that it didn't suit.

    So is 8.30 in the morning acceptable or should they have waited until after 9, personally Id never ring someone at 8.30 id wait until after 9.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Id be grateful to get a call anytime knowing how busy they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Shelflife wrote: »
    My mother got a letter for an appointment with a consultant, date didn't suit so I rang and left a message to call me back.

    The following morning I got a call at 8.30am from the secretary returning my call, I felt this was a bit early to be making a call of this nature.

    As an aside she seemed very put out that we weren't fitting in with their plans, it was a special clinic I was told and was i sure that it didn't suit.

    So is 8.30 in the morning acceptable or should they have waited until after 9, personally Id never ring someone at 8.30 id wait until after 9.

    Most places start at 8am, so any time from then onwards is acceptable imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Shelflife wrote: »
    My mother got a letter for an appointment with a consultant, date didn't suit so I rang and left a message to call me back.

    The following morning I got a call at 8.30am from the secretary returning my call, I felt this was a bit early to be making a call of this nature.

    As an aside she seemed very put out that we weren't fitting in with their plans, it was a special clinic I was told and was i sure that it didn't suit.

    So is 8.30 in the morning acceptable or should they have waited until after 9, personally Id never ring someone at 8.30 id wait until after 9.

    8.30 is fine,what difference is half an hour?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    8:30 would suit me as I’m not at work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭vkus6mt3y8zg2q


    Hope you get all the help you need to get over the trauma of this as soon as possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    If it was an important consultation you really have no right to complain as lots of people could be waiting for appointment s and that secretary needs to get to them all.its not just you in that lives on this planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    God is a consultant, and his secretary is an arch-angel (who is very conscious of her relationship with god). In both cases they can do as they wish before granting you the privilege of paying them €200.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Shelflife wrote: »
    My mother got a letter for an appointment with a consultant, date didn't suit so I rang and left a message to call me back after 9am.

    Fixed that for you op, I'm sure you specifically told them not to call back too early... right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    looksee wrote: »
    God is a consultant, and his secretary is an arch-angel (who is very conscious of her relationship with god). In both cases they can do as they wish before granting you the privilege of paying them €200.


    Which cheap-ass consultant are you seeing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    You are correct.

    Calls before 9am are the work of barbarians.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    If it was an important consultation you really have no right to complain as lots of people could be waiting for appointment s and that secretary needs to get to them all.its not just you in that lives on this planet.

    Appointment was for 5 weeks time and I rang the day I got it to let them know it didnt suit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭rgodard80a


    Shelflife wrote: »
    So is 8.30 in the morning acceptable or should they have waited until after 9, personally Id never ring someone at 8.30 id wait until after 9.

    For any health issue I'd be glad of a prompt response.
    It's not even your health issue, it's your mothers, so are you really complaining that you won't even take a phone call to help your own mother?

    Maybe you should just turn off your phone until 9am each day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Shelflife wrote: »
    Appointment was for 5 weeks time and I rang the day I got it to let them know it didnt suit.

    Turn off your phone until 9am then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    I'd ring a mobile phone at any time of the day or night, you can turn them off or set up blocks. A land line I would not ring between 9pm and 8am unless for an emergency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    mdwexford wrote:
    Calls before 9am are the work of barbarians.

    Cue Nox001 arriving to say anything before 12 noon is the middle of the night and anyone who gets up before 10am is clearly some kind of deranged sado-masochist.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    You should get her sacked, calling you at such an ungodly hour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    rgodard80a wrote: »
    For any health issue I'd be glad of a prompt response.
    It's not even your health issue, it's your mothers, so are you really complaining that you won't even take a phone call to help your own mother?

    Maybe you should just turn off your phone until 9am each day.

    Not sure where you arrived at that conclusion, I never complained about the call I merely expressed suprise that they called before 9am, It wasnt an emergency health issue but simply arranging an appointment for 5 weeks time.

    As I said I personally wouldnt ring before 9am unless it was an urgent matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Shelflife wrote:
    As I said I personally wouldnt ring before 9am unless it was an urgent matter.

    Why?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    Why would you answer a cell so early,
    Obviously only a maniac would call at 8.30 in the morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Why?

    I suppose its just to do with the traditional office hours of 9-5. Before 9 you were on your own time and after that it was time for work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Shelflife wrote:
    As I said I personally wouldnt ring before 9am unless it was an urgent matter.

    Why?
    Because before 9 am it's safe to assume that people are busy getting themselves and kids ready and travelling to school/work.

    Perhaps she was trying to catch you before you started work OP? Agree it was rude to call before 9 for that issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    Anyone else click into this thread thinking the call was at 3 am?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Is it the case you were still in bed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Shelflife wrote:
    I suppose its just to do with the traditional office hours of 9-5. Before 9 you were on your own time and after that it was time for work.

    Sardonicat wrote:
    Agree it was rude to call before 9 for that issue.

    I wasn't aware individuals operated on business hours too.

    I honestly can't see the issue here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Shelflife wrote:
    I suppose its just to do with the traditional office hours of 9-5. Before 9 you were on your own time and after that it was time for work.

    Sardonicat wrote:
    Agree it was rude to call before 9 for that issue.

    I wasn't aware individuals operated on business hours too.

    I honestly can't see the issue here.
    If you were shepherding 2 or 3 small kids into a car trying to get them to school and yourself to work you might.
    Most people are on a tight morning schedule and haven't got the time to spare in the morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    If you were shepherding 2 or 3 small kids into a car trying to get them to school and yourself to work you might.
    Most people are on a tight morning schedule and haven't got the time to spare in the morning.

    Ask will they ring you back in a minute... Most people are in work at 9am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Sardonicat wrote:
    If you were shepherding 2 or 3 small kids into a car trying to get them to school and yourself to work you might. Most people are on a tight morning schedule and haven't got the time to spare in the morning.

    So just don't answer. That's what voicemail is for.

    Plenty of people can't take personal calls during business hours and would welcome a business ringing them slightly out of hours.

    Just seems like a bit of a mountain out of a molehill, tbh. It's not like they were ringing you at 3am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Sardonicat wrote: »
    If you were shepherding 2 or 3 small kids into a car trying to get them to school and yourself to work you might.
    Most people are on a tight morning schedule and haven't got the time to spare in the morning.

    Ask will they ring you back in a minute... Most people are in work at 9am.
    Most people are trying to get to work before 9. Pointless calling before then. And bad manners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Most people are trying to get to work before 9. Pointless calling before then. And bad manners.

    And its grand to take a call in work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    8.30 is fine?..

    I work in a call centre and we open at 8am. Inbound and outbound calls being made.

    Dont answer if its not suitable i guess

    You need to make it clear in your voicemail that they are only to call you after 9pm if that is your wish. Other then that you have no right to complain as you didnt state a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Sardonicat wrote:
    If you were shepherding 2 or 3 small kids into a car trying to get them to school and yourself to work you might. Most people are on a tight morning schedule and haven't got the time to spare in the morning.

    So just don't answer. That's what voicemail is for.

    Plenty of people can't take personal calls during business hours and would welcome a business ringing them slightly out of hours.

    Just seems like a bit of a mountain out of a molehill, tbh. It's not like they were ringing you at 3am.
    They weren't ringing me.

    I would have requested they call me back at a given time and hung up. Personally, if I receive a call early in the day I will answer because I assume it's urgent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    I worked in Social welfare before and we were told not to call anyone till after 10am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    8.30 is fine?..

    I work in a call centre and we open at 8am. Inbound and outbound calls being made.

    Dont answer if its not suitable i guess
    Really ? I've worked in a call centre and we were inbound only til 9am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    fin12 wrote: »
    I worked in Social welfare before and we were told not to call anyone till after 10am.

    I think we know what's going on with the OP now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,428 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Most people are either in work or on their way at 8:30am, I don’t see any issue with someone calling at that time.

    Not on a weekend though.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Shelflife wrote: »
    I suppose its just to do with the traditional office hours of 9-5. Before 9 you were on your own time and after that it was time for work.

    Maybe the logic is that they are trying to catch you when you aren't in work............... I mean does your work time involve answering private phone calls ............. You are very much contradicting yourself!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    fin12 wrote: »
    I worked in Social welfare before and we were told not to call anyone till after 10am.

    That's early for someone unemployed who would be up before 10 on the dole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,291 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Ask will they ring you back in a minute... Most people are in work at 9am.

    And therefore unable to take calls because they are ... working!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    Joe Duffy only man to sort this out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    8.30 is fine?..

    I work in a call centre and we open at 8am. Inbound and outbound calls being made.

    Dont answer if its not suitable i guess

    You need to make it clear in your voicemail that they are only to call you after 9pm if that is your wish. Other then that you have no right to complain as you didnt state a time.
    So it's OK to ignore the time of day if a person doesn't state it on voicemail? Is that what they're saying in their training in your call centre?
    I don't use voicemail as I've a very sick family member so don't want to miss any urgent calls. That's not a green light for businesses to call me outside of business hours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    My god some people have little to complain about . Seriously OP what on earth is wrong with 8:30 ? Just be thankful you got an appointment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    fin12 wrote: »
    I worked in Social welfare before and we were told not to call anyone till after 10am.
    Do they open before 10 am?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Shelflife wrote:
    So is 8.30 in the morning acceptable or should they have waited until after 9, personally Id never ring someone at 8.30 id wait until after 9.


    I get calls from 7am right up to 11pm (sometimes even later) on a regular basis from clients. I put my phone on private mode from 7pm to 8:15am. On private mode my phone only rings if its family or friends.

    If I get a missed call from someone late at night I deliberately return their call as early as possible.

    I don't think 8:30am is too early. I do realise that some elderly people sleep later on in the mornings but even if I rang at 9am some elderly people don't get up till 10am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Joe Duffy only man to sort this out

    Just don't phone him at 8:30am though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭TheBeach


    I start work at 8 but wait till after 9 to phone people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    TheBeach wrote: »
    I start work at 8 but wait till after 9 to phone people.

    There isn't a set rule? There are tens of thousands of different jobs requiring different objectives.

    without getting into specifics.......... what job are you in that you would find it unnecesary to call until after 9.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Options:
    Switch phone off until 9am.
    Direct calls to voicemail until 9am - with specific instructions to text, email or WhatsApp you if urgent.

    Direct calls to voicemail until 9am - with specific instructions to feck off until 9am.

    Make a GDPR request for all information they hold about you or your mother to see if you specifically agreed to calls at certain hours only.

    Check their website or their building for opening times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    fin12 wrote: »
    I worked in Social welfare before and we were told not to call anyone till after 10am.

    I thought you were only allowed to call when the Jeremy Kyle Show was on ad breaks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭wandererz


    OP, You need to be more annoying assertive when you deal with people or businesses and make it clear from the start what your terms and conditions are.

    Make sure you specify an acceptable end time for calls as well. Is it 5pm or 5.30pm?

    Out of curiosity, are you in the 50+ age range? That would put your mom in the 70+ range (pre 1950's). Perhaps get a bus back to the last century - but only after 9am of course. Lodge a complaint with the time bureau if the timetable does not include suitable times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    My god some people have little to complain about . Seriously OP what on earth is wrong with 8:30 ? Just be thankful you got an appointment

    I wasn’t complaining , merely curious, why should I be thankful for giving someone my business ?


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