How far can you drive without drive/serpentine belt?

pudzey101

Posting for a friend......

He's looking at a 06 santa fe 2.0d tomorrow in which the drive belt is broke (it runs aircon,alternator,power steering) AFAIK the water pump is driven by a different belt.

How far would it get with a fully charged battery or would it need to be towed ? Only needs to get about 25-30 miles home to a garage to have the belt fixed.

Midnight_EG

For the sake of 16 euro just go buy a belt and lash it on?

pudzey101

Midnight_EG wrote: »

For the sake of 16 euro just go buy a belt and lash it on?

Belt is 12.99 in local autofactors but he doesn't have the technical knowledge to change it , just wants to know would it make it 20-30 miles to a garage that could fit for him

listermint

If the battery is strong yes, it should/could.

If not, then no.

pudzey101

listermint wrote: »

If the battery is strong yes, it should/could.

If not, then no.

That's where we are 50/50 on this one , the battery is going to be fully charged over night but not sure of the condition of it .

kirving

Local mechanic should be able to come out and fit it wherever it's parked. Far cheaper than being stranded on the side of the road and calling a breakdown service.

Eric Cartman

pudzey101 wrote: »

Posting for a friend......

He's looking at a 06 santa fe 2.0d tomorrow in which the drive belt is broke (it runs aircon,alternator,power steering) AFAIK the water pump is driven by a different belt.

How far would it get with a fully charged battery or would it need to be towed ? Only needs to get about 25-30 miles home to a garage to have the belt fixed.

I would be very wary of any car that the owner couldnt be arsed putting a 12 quid belt on. and allowed it to get so bad it snapped in the first place.

Alanstrainor

If he is driving 30 miles, then that's 50km more or less. Depending on what roads he's on you'd have to assume a 40 minute journey time all going well. Given that, I would have to assume that the car will die long before that.

I just googled replacing the belt, it does seem a little bit annoying. Access is from behind the front drivers side wheel, and it looks like a fiddly job. I would still rather do it than attempt to drive it for any amount of time.

pudzey101

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Local mechanic should be able to come out and fit it wherever it's parked. Far cheaper than being stranded on the side of the road and calling a breakdown service.

Il ask my friend could he bring anyone to change it . I agree with you there

pudzey101

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I would be very wary of any car that the owner couldnt be arsed putting a 12 quid belt on. and allowed it to get so bad it snapped in the first place.

I would too but it's not for me , AFAIK it was used as a farm jeep

pudzey101

Alanstrainor wrote: »

If he is driving 30 miles, then that's 50km more or less. Depending on what roads he's on you'd have to assume a 40 minute journey time all going well. Given that, I would have to assume that the car will die long before that.

I just googled replacing the belt, it does seem a little bit annoying. Access is from behind the front drivers side wheel, and it looks like a fiddly job. I would still rather do it than attempt to drive it for any amount of time.

Ya I don't know what he's going to do , i told him bring a spare battery just in case or to be safer than sorry get it towed

Del2005

pudzey101 wrote: »

I would too but it's not for me , AFAIK it was used as a farm jeep

I'd be more worried about revenue than running out of electricity.

It'd want to be seriously cheap to consider taking a vehicle that has only been used as a farm vehicle. What's the tax and NCT/CVRT status and regardless what's the condition of the rest of the car? Because we have a field car and its got a lot of issues after a few years beating around.

iamtony

Diesel cars don't make if very far I'm afraid. Petrol could go lot further. I once fully charged a battery on a diesel with a alternator problem and it got me about 10kms before it started to die. I was bringing it to the place I worked to use the ramp to fix it and I just barely made it.
If nothing else bring a spare battery and cross your fingers.

iamtony

Also make sure to leave the radio, fan and the lights off etc.

Eric Cartman

Del2005 wrote: »

I'd be more worried about revenue than running out of electricity.

It'd want to be seriously cheap to consider taking a vehicle that has only been used as a farm vehicle. What's the tax and NCT/CVRT status and regardless what's the condition of the rest of the car? Because we have a field car and its got a lot of issues after a few years beating around.

+1 , the fuel filter is probably solid green, chances are its not been serviced in years, those 2.2s are known for blowing heads, I hope the op only wants it as a farm jeep and in which case tow it, I also hope theyre paying under 1500 for it, you can get road licenced examples of those for under 2500. The santa fe was never a great 4x4 anyway, its more an awd car

pudzey101

My friend is getting it for 500 it's the 2.0 version, he has sourced a lend of a spare battery and jump leads , would he be best leave the spare battery on the passanger footwell and run the jump leads to it from the battery already in the jeep ???

Snotty

Change it over when the battery dies

pudzey101

Snotty wrote: »

Change it over when the battery dies

Ok bring as a spare incase battery dies rather than hook up 2 batterys at same time yeah

Wildly Boaring

iamtony wrote: »

Diesel cars don't make if very far I'm afraid. Petrol could go lot further. I once fully charged a battery on a diesel with a alternator problem and it got me about 10kms before it started to die. I was bringing it to the place I worked to use the ramp to fix it and I just barely made it.
If nothing else bring a spare battery and cross your fingers.

I would have always thought the exact opposite.

A diesel engine requires no power once started.
A petrol car needs power to ignite

Plenty site dumpers with no battery back in the day.

Shows what I know.

pudzey101

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

I would have always thought the exact opposite.

A diesel engine requires no power once started.
A petrol car needs power to ignite

Plenty site dumpers with no battery back in the day.

Shows what I know.

My taughts too diesels should be able to go farther than petrol in regards battery, he's already on the way for it anyway will keep posted how he got on it's 35kms he has to go which Google maps say is a 38min drive so fingers crossed

iamtony

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

I would have always thought the exact opposite.

A diesel engine requires no power once started.
A petrol car needs power to ignite

Plenty site dumpers with no battery back in the day.

Shows what I know.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I was told when mine went.
I think most modern engines(petrol and diesel) require electricity supplied from the battery to run. In the old days they were a lot simpler and didn't have electronic fuel injection etc. Modern diesel use electric fuel pumps and high pressure injection which require electricity to work.
Let us know if he made it anyway:)

Wildly Boaring

iamtony wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I was told when mine went.
I think most modern engines(petrol and diesel) require electricity supplied from the battery to run. In the old days they were a lot simpler and didn't have electronic fuel injection etc. Modern diesel use electric fuel pumps and high pressure injection which require electricity to work.
Let us know if he made it anyway:)

Sounds right to be fair

Ubbquittious

Does it have a roof rack? Tie a solar panel onto it and connect to the battery

Isambard

you'd have to wonder are there more problems lurking there. For instance, what state are the alternator aircom and pas?

Del2005

pudzey101 wrote: »

My taughts too diesels should be able to go farther than petrol in regards battery, he's already on the way for it anyway will keep posted how he got on it's 35kms he has to go which Google maps say is a 38min drive so fingers crossed

How did he transfer insurance on a Saturday and if he managed is it even valid? Because its his car now the driving other cars extension doesn't work and since its been a farm vehicle it's unlikely to have an NCT and that's a requirement for insurance, the vehicle has to be road legal.

biko

Don't buy the car.
What kind of owner won't fix his car up for a sale? The type of owner that would neglect it for services and other things..


Edit
NM, I see now it was a farm jeep so your friend probably doesn't have any real expectations

pippip

Del2005 wrote: »

How did he transfer insurance on a Saturday and if he managed is it even valid? Because its his car now the driving other cars extension doesn't work and since its been a farm vehicle it's unlikely to have an NCT and that's a requirement for insurance, the vehicle has to be road legal.

Legalities of the vehicle condition/ownership aside I've seen many on here who say you can email the change over the weekend and insurance company accept and backdate the alteration on the Monday morning.


PS I still can't believe we haven't been updated on how far they got

Del2005

pippip wrote: »

Legalities of the vehicle condition/ownership aside I've seen many on here who say you can email the change over the weekend and insurance company accept and backdate the alteration on the Monday morning.

Without a valid road worthiness certificate they won't.

iamtony

Well....did he make it......

jochenstacker

iamtony wrote: »

Well....did he make it......

Looks like he didn't and he's still stranded with a dead battery somewhere...

pudzey101

Well lads ya sorry for the delay he made it no problems , was a good battery , turned out the belt snapped because of a faulty air con compressor and cost 60e to replace and it's running A1 now:)