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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭ C0N0R


    I thought the same Wibbs



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    I know this sounds and is a hack, but what about glue? Dab of superglue to hold them at one end.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ Fitz II


    Call the superglue threadloc and it sounds like watchmaking. I would give it a go too, although something like no more nails will give you a longer working time 😀



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    Girard Perregaux are an oddball brand. They appear to be a tiny outfit, but somehow keep going and seem to sell expensive watches with it. Their Laureato was a big seller in Italy and a lot of old GP's seem to show up on Italian(and French) ebay. In the anglophone world they're pretty much a no show. Then again there are watch nerds and the general public, which can be very different markets. Cartier who rarely show up in watch nerd circles have a bigger market share than Longines, Patek, AP, TAG. In Asia Longines biggest sellers are women's watches.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭ teotwawki


    If the fakers have copied the bracelet 1:1 then a genuine link pin might fit:

    Casio uses springbars as link pins for the steel GMW-B5000 models, but for the titanium models (eg B5000TB) they use pin+collar. Again, depending on the dimensions that the fakers used, maybe the orginal pin+collar will fit your Chinesium model in lieu of a springbar, idk. You can find it on pacparts also.

    The nature of Chinese fakes incl spare parts is they aim to get the look correct and anything you can't see incl link pins is probably of questionable quality.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    You can also get loctite slower setting superglue. Takes a couple of minutes. I've found it handy stuff over the years. Not for watches mind you. 😁

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭ cnocbui


    My wet dream is waking up one morning, checking the news and finding Honda have lured Alfa's design team from them. The Brera is a gorgeous design, but having owned a Honda, I never want to go back to Fiat or Alfa mechanicals and poor materials and parts.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    The Brera couldn't be any more Italian. 😁 It's got back seats, but not really, unless you find someone in need of a lift that lost their legs to farming machinery. And their head fell off. A big booty, but a tiny boot. Well the boot is big enough, but the way into it isn't. Like if the front door of your house was the size of the letterbox. The six headlights that look cool, but are a pig to clean, the brushed alloy dashboard bits that scratch if you look at them funny. Designed by Giugiaro and followed the concept car pretty closely, only shrunk it(which would explain the back seats).

    It seems to be well enough bolted together actually(the spyder was in dire need of viagra). Momo seats and wheel, leather all over the gaff. Goes well enough too. Grips well in 4x4 form, though I suspect like a fair number of cars out there it would be grip, grip, grip... Hedge. Heavy though. When my friend was stripping a parts donor for well, parts, when he got the dash out there's a huge aluminium cross member that has enough heft in it to keep Cocacola in cans for a month's production. Seems to be pretty reliable too. IIRC at that stage Alfa got in some outside help with their electrics.

    Honda's designs are very Japanese for the most part. To be fair their Civic doesn't look like every other car of its size on the road. The R looks like an origami nightmare, which is fine, but it's also very niche and most of what we see are styling exercises rather than functional. Goes like stink mind you and up a twisty road it could embarrass quite a few more powerful cars on paper.

    Car design has gotten much better over the years. Sure there are old cars that are 'classics', but that's like looking at music of the [insert decade here] and saying it was so much better, but we're only looking at the highlights and ignoring the utter bilge, which was most of it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭ kostal2093




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭ micks_address


    I went with few of these https://www.ebay.ie/itm/260515873560


    if they don't fit will try pacparts. Shipping bit expensive from there



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭ Krombopulos Michael


    Mate has the V6 Brera and it is such a nice car to drive. He also note that the headrests in it are slightly angled so if you put your head back it pointed your head slightly to the left. Took a drive, it was heavy but a fun car.

    It's been living in his garage for about 10years with electrial issues that he was quoted over 1k to fix so its put away.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 57,783 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    What a beauty, cnocbui. Once of the all time design classics with great style, like only the Italians could draw them. Bet you have felt sorry many times that you sold it.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    Oh for sure that's a very pretty car, but look at most 70's cars with similar three box shapes. The Italians could do it very well, but others.... Actually BMW could always do it well. They rarely enough put a foot wrong. Plus regulations have slowly but surely reduced the framework of design to narrower parameters. When Ford did a Longines and brought out their Ford GT(40) reissue they had to stop selling it in whatever year they did because new regs meant they headlights had to be two inches higher or something. Popular types of cars ditto. So SUV's being more in leads us down that road. Two door coupes which were once a staple are very much a minority these days and it's easier to make a two door coupe look good than a four door school run 4x4 wannabee that's ten feet tall so women of a certain blonde can see other women of a certain blonde as they bring their progeny to horseriding lessons. Cars being global rather than local and having to be all things to all men and women has had some impact too. As have and quite naturally profit margin concerns. There were a lot of very pretty cars back in the day that didn't sell, or sell well enough to keep companies from going under.

    I may know a guy. 😁 IIRC they do have problems with front crossmembers going rusty and bad allignment on front setups, in the FWD examples anyway. Window regulators another weak spot. Though I suppose pretty much any car when it gets to a certain age issues come along. Unless it's a 90's Toyota or 70's Merc(and you keep the tinworm at bay).

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭ cnocbui


    Yes and no. The car was never liked by the market, even though Sophia Loren had one and Enzo Ferrari deigned to take a motoring journalist for a spin in one because of his leg/foot and they were mostly autos. But I sold it for about half what the paint job cost me and probaly less than one twelfth what that beast cost me to buy and maintain over 12 years. The buyer wanted it for parts to maintain his, but then said mine was probably in better nick than his so I like to think that perhaps his became the donor.

    I still love it because it was gorgous and fabulous to drive, but still feel the pain of it being a deep money pit, compared to my meagre means at the time.

    An amazing detail is that they date from 1973, but a lot of the switch indicators, heating controls and such, were lit with plastic optical fibres from a few central bulbs, which blew me away even in the 80's, when I discovered it.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    So to recap; We have the PP

    We have the AP

    We have the GP

    And now the new Zenith Defy

    I wonder which other brand will jump on this current trend from the 1970's.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭ Cyrus


    The Piaget Polo and VC Overseas can be added i guess, are IWC doing that kind of ingy at the moment?






  • Registered Users Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭ micks_address


    There's a tissot waffle dial as well right? PRX 80 i think?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭ micks_address




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    In my humble the VC and the AP get a pass.The AP for being the one that started this current trend and one of the nicest of the bunch and the VC because although it shares the DNA of the luxiry steel sports looks different in the hand. I mean the Bulgari Octo is a luxury steel sports job and a recent one, but different enough to stand out.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    Though at least this current trend isn't brand specific. There's a few out there. Like when pilots watches were the thing for a brief time about 15 years ago. When Panerai were the flavour de jour it was essentially just them or homages.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭ 893bet


    VC abandoned the textured dial for the latest Gen of the overseas (Gen3). Gen 2 has the textured dial on most of the models.

    A Lange jumped on the integrated sports watch trend a few years back, as did Lang and Heyne this year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭ scwazrh


    Where’s the best place to pick up one of the seagull Chinese watches ? One like below . I know there was a post on this before but I can’t find it . Or if anyone here has one to move on .




  • Registered Users Posts: 770 ✭✭✭ funkyouup



    Couldn't find the thread but i remember https://www.poljot24.de/ mentioned for stocking them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭ Ian OB


    So I lost one of the pushers from this the other week. Had some from other cheap fakes in the drawer & had a go to see if the might fit. Of course not. However, the one that was the correct length is now held in place with blue tack. Not a fix for the purists I'm sure 🤔 . Have probably increased its water resistance now as well 😁😁. Going to wear it for work tonight & will report back later as to how it holds up.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    Blutac, now there's watchmaking! 😁

    Further on the new Zenith Defy..

    Check out where it says Swiss Made....


    It's not just this pic either. It seems one of their press kit examples wasn't quite checked enough. I mean how does that even happen in the printing?

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭ Ian OB


    Lets just say MacGyver was a big influence on me growing up



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭ CalamariFritti


    That's a funny fault. If Zenith weren't Swiss it could be classified as some sort of dig. What with 'Adé' being a German form of 'bye-bye'.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭ Cyrus


    that disappoints me, similar issue when the chronomaster sport was released, can you see it, doesnt fill you with confidence on QC.




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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 58,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs


    I'm probably going to get this wrong. 😁

    The C in second on the bezel thingie is rough and the chronograph hand is slightly off true. The bracelet to case gap isn't exactly toight either.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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