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UK Bans pigeon and crow shooting

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭ tac foley


    And guess what?

















    We were ignored.

    No real surprises there, then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,108 ✭✭✭✭ Nekarsulm




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    As you said bar a few small exceptions, where licenses have to be applied for, the three new general licenses are almost identical to the ones removed.

    Once again it shows that those that bang the table and shout the loudest are not necessarily the best ones to listen to (chris packham). The harm, damage and anger this caused and for what? It was a solution to a non existent problem and once again shows education is not a sign of intelligence.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,108 ✭✭✭✭ Nekarsulm


    To be honest, I'm surprised Gove made such a decision in the middle of a leadership battle.
    Suppose it shows what demographic he reckons will be most beneficial to him.
    Never rated him as Min of Ag.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    He hasn't a chance. First vote i seen today has Boris on 114, Gove on 47 and the rest in twenties, and low teens.

    The shooting community in the UK is in the region, a guess based on low ago read information, of 3 million. Now while they're population is 60+million compared to our 4.8 the number of shooters/fieldsports persons is in the 5% mark compared to our 2.9% and that is not even counting other groups, and farmers, that could add to that percentage.

    Its the same old story. Bowing to the moral outrage until they realise those shouting the loudest are virtue signaling and know feck all about what they are protesting whereas the other half not only know but put the food on the screamers tables.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,108 ✭✭✭✭ Nekarsulm


    I know he hasn't a chance, but Boris could find it hard to make appreciable gains on the 30 odd % he's already got.
    Gove was an absolute tit in his assessment of Brexits effects on farmers, I believe.
    (also, Bringing in a law that allows you sack a teacher who ever took drugs, and then expecting to be PM after a bit of experimentation himself shows a typical arrogance and disconnect)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I know he hasn't a chance, but Boris could find it hard to make appreciable gains on the 30 odd % he's already got.
    Keeping him away fro microphones and interviews seem to be doing the trick :D
    (also, Bringing in a law that allows you sack a teacher who ever took drugs, and then expecting to be PM after a bit of experimentation himself shows a typical arrogance and disconnect)
    That was damage control and getting ahead of a story. I guarantee you that was coming out in some article or expose and he decided to dampen the shock by announcing it himself before the story broke.

    Still, play stupid games, win stupid prizes or maybe people in glass houses is a better analogy.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭ oldgit1897


    Shooting crowd in the UK have only themselves to blame .. I remember Sporting Gun used to award £15 for people who sent in photos of them selves and big (enormous sometimes) bags of pigeons. They’ve promoted mass shooting of pigeons and crows for decades over there, Fieldsports Britain kept it up and god knows what on Facebook. I personally can see why they got into this mess, they were arrogant enough to think they can do what they want in the name of crop protection without any regulation, it was only a matter of time before some smart a*rse anti found a loop to stop the lot. It should be a lesson to us to self regulate, because we sure don’t want the antis regulating for us.

    I fail to see a problem. Pigeons are an agricultural pest, and despite the masses of them shot, their numbers have increased. Not doing something in case it offends the anti's, or the urban greenies, is pointless, no matter what you do they are going to be offended, so tip on regardless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭ tac foley


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Gove was is an absolute tit

    FIFY


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ Eddie B




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,625 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    Hah.

    Seems his virtue signaling, like all others, has a price tag.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    What happened at the countryside rally in London.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,424 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45


    Not much apprently:mad:...About 200 of us showed up.The Antis are having a field day with this.:mad:

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Not much apprently:mad:...About 200 of us showed up.The Antis are having a field day with this.:mad:

    Oh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭ oldgit1897


    Yup, i believe it was one man and his dog, literally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Time of year. Weather very good so too much to be done on farms I expect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ Eddie B




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭ tac foley


    'But Tom Adams, MD of the British Game Alliance said their plans are highly problematic for rural people.

    “Such ludicrous ideas would be the end of shooting, a community that puts £2.5 billion back into the UK economy and creates 75,000 jobs,” he said.

    “The ramifications of what Wild Justice are suggesting for rural people and the land managed for shooting would be cataclysmic.”

    Ms Bedell added: “This is another extremist attack on shooting by those associated with the League Against Cruel Sports that ignores the well-documented evidence of the benefits of shooting to conservation and the wider environment.'

    Mr Packham is storing up a world of woe for himself, that's for sure. Add to that that he has a smug little face that you couldn't just smack once.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ Eddie B


    tac foley wrote: »
    'But Tom Adams, MD of the British Game Alliance said their plans are highly problematic for rural people.

    “Such ludicrous ideas would be the end of shooting, a community that puts £2.5 billion back into the UK economy and creates 75,000 jobs,” he said.

    “The ramifications of what Wild Justice are suggesting for rural people and the land managed for shooting would be cataclysmic.”

    Ms Bedell added: “This is another extremist attack on shooting by those associated with the League Against Cruel Sports that ignores the well-documented evidence of the benefits of shooting to conservation and the wider environment.'

    Mr Packham is storing up a world of woe for himself, that's for sure. Add to that that he has a smug little face that you couldn't just smack once.

    Its crazy to think that people like Packham, who are so into nature can do this, knowing the benefits of shoots with reguards habitat and conservation. What negative effects so pheasants have on an environment? Seriously, stop the crap!!

    Just look at our own country, where there are limited numbers of shoots. There is a lot of featureless land with little wildlife.

    Back to Wild Justice, at what stage did Packham and his followers put conservation on the back burner, and focus more on this agenda, no matter what the cost.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ Eddie B


    This is the mindset of what were up against



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭ oldgit1897


    All you need to know about packman and his scruffy band of islington lefties.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭ .243


    Doesn’t surprise me one bit,it was fox hunting then it was badgers and then
    he didn’t get his way on ban of shooting of pests,so it’s onto the next agenda,(probably deer stalking next)and when that falls through it’ll be onto something else,he’s at his happiest causing disruption shouting it from the top of his media outlet milk crate all in the name of “animal welfare”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭ oldgit1897


    .243 wrote: »
    Doesn’t surprise me one bit,it was fox hunting then it was badgers and then
    he didn’t get his way on ban of shooting of pests,so it’s onto the next agenda,(probably deer stalking next)and when that falls through it’ll be onto something else,he’s at his happiest causing disruption shouting it from the top of his media outlet milk crate all in the name of “animal welfare”

    And blathering on about his aspergers :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,108 ✭✭✭✭ Nekarsulm


    If he objects so vehemently against the breeding and release (and ultimate shooting) of non indigenous breeds, eill he take on the NFU and farmers in general?
    Probably 80% of cattle farmed in the UK are of foreign breeds.
    Holstein and Friesian cows are Dutch/German and Canadian/Americian breeds, the beef industry is predominately French breeds, Charolais, Limousin, Simmental, Blonde Aquitane, Belgium Blues from Belgium and a bit of Piedmontese from Italy.
    Are these next on his list?
    What about migratory birds, should we shoot on sight Swallows, House Martins etc to keep our bird populations pure ?
    I think he knows how those battles would go...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭ tac foley


    For G*d's sake don't get him going about TREES!!!! The Horse Chestnut came from Spain, the deadly enemy of the 16thC. Next thing you know he'll have them all uprooted and sent back as illegal aliens.

    Just remembered, all those Japanese Maples, too.

    Bunnies, too are an invasive species, having come from mainland Yoorup with the Normans.....round 'em up!! Send 'em home!!

    And peacocks.

    And Rhode Island Reds.

    And grey squirls.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,424 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45


    oldgit1897 wrote: »
    And blathering on about his aspergers :rolleyes:
    Scary now that we have two people with Aspergers being held up as the new saints of how to improve the World by going on crusades against the "eco sinners"...Packham and St Gerta Thunberg the Good from Sweden.:rolleyes:

    The last two more than likely Aspergers sufferers who got into crusade mode.Stephen of Cloyes and Nicholas of Cologne led the Childerns crusade....That ended quite badly for everyone.

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,429 ✭✭✭✭ freshpopcorn


    He's after something else now!
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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭ Chiparus


    tac foley wrote: »
    For G*d's sake don't get him going about TREES!!!! The Horse Chestnut came from Spain, the deadly enemy of the 16thC. Next thing you know he'll have them all uprooted and sent back as illegal aliens.

    Just remembered, all those Japanese Maples, too.

    Bunnies, too are an invasive species, having come from mainland Yoorup with the Normans.....round 'em up!! Send 'em home!!

    And peacocks.

    And Rhode Island Reds.

    And grey squirls.....

    20,000 years ago it was covered with ice- everything here is "invasive".


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭ meathstevie


    Suffice to say that I have no time nor tolerance for any fundamentalist holier than thou preacher types.

    Without exception all one trick ponies who sooner or later are being found out to be nothing more than snake oil merchants with nothing but their self interest at heart.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭ oldgit1897


    Suffice to say that I have no time nor tolerance for any fundamentalist holier than thou preacher types.

    Without exception all one trick ponies who sooner or later are being found out to be nothing more than snake oil merchants with nothing but their self interest at heart.

    The whole "Celebrity" class are now sanctimonious holier than thou preacher types. Look at Hollywood etc.


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