Vaccines

ITgirl73

I lost a very young dog after experiencing Ichy skin, constant anal gland issues & death from blood disorder.
Breeder vaccinated her & when I then took her for her first checkup at our vet they insisted on vaccinating her again. I read now that over vaccinating causes these conditions. If I go for another dog who the breeder has vaccinated should I refuse re vaccinating them again?

I also see there is a theory that dogs should either be vaccinated every 3-5 years & not every year but then pet insurance insist on yearly vaccines or they don’t cover.

What is the best thing to do as I cannot bear to lose another dog. Should I refuse repeating the first lot of vaccines?

tk123

Sorry about your dog . Was the dog actually over vaccinated though or did the vet just give the second vaccine which is normal? Vaccinating is emotive as everyone has their own ideas and experiences but at the end of the day it’s a personal decision so you need to weigh up the pros and cons for your situation with your vet. We had a bad experience one year and after that the dogs were titred and based on the results and vets advise I stopped vaccinating. There’s no issue with Allianz - they just won’t cover the diseases the vaccines cover but you do still need to have the annual checkup. Many studies show that the core vaccines last 7 years if not the lifetime of the dog, some say that the lepto one only lasts a few months so why bother, some recommend one vaccine only at 16 weeks, some vaccinate every 2 weeks until the pup is 16 weeks etc etc.. you’re limited with the likes of daycare, some classes and kennels if you don’t vaccinate so that’s another thing to consider.

em_cat

As tk123 has said it is a very emotive issue for a lot of people. I think it’s important to realise that most of the sources on google are not very reliable and there is a lot of scaremongering on both sides.

The best thing would be to talk to your vet, ask questions, if they won’t explain or dismiss your concerns as nonsense, find a new vet.

endacl

The only things vaccines have been shown to cause, again and again, is old age.

Sheepdish1

You need to be very careful where you buy your dog from. It is great if you can rescue one and if not make sure to go to a reputable breeder.

Either of the above will give you a vaccine card that will displau the record of the vaccines given plus date.

I honestly feel that the benefits of vaccines completely outweigh the risks and I wouldn’t chance not getting them.

ITgirl73

tk123 wrote: »

Sorry about your dog . Was the dog actually over vaccinated though or did the vet just give the second vaccine which is normal? Vaccinating is emotive as everyone has their own ideas and experiences but at the end of the day it’s a personal decision so you need to weigh up the pros and cons for your situation with your vet. We had a bad experience one year and after that the dogs were titred and based on the results and vets advise I stopped vaccinating. There’s no issue with Allianz - they just won’t cover the diseases the vaccines cover but you do still need to have the annual checkup. Many studies show that the core vaccines last 7 years if not the lifetime of the dog, some say that the lepto one only lasts a few months so why bother, some recommend one vaccine only at 16 weeks, some vaccinate every 2 weeks until the pup is 16 weeks etc etc.. you’re limited with the likes of daycare, some classes and kennels if you don’t vaccinate so that’s another thing to consider.

The first lot of vaccinations were repeated & then second lot were given. I subsequently availed of kennel cough vaccine a year later. It is frustrating as I don’t know what killed her. She was full of life & suddenly deteriorated over 3 days. I just worry now about doubling up on the initial vaccines again.

What does titred involve I saw that referenced in a US post?

tk123

ITgirl73 wrote: »

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What does titred involve I saw that referenced in a US post?

It's a simple blood test that shows if they have immunity to the diseases the core vaccines are supposed to cover. My advice would be to use a vet that offers the titre service and knows about it as well as traditional vaccines - they'll be able to give you an unbiased opinion.

muddypaws

Rather than worry about over vaccinating, please don't go to a breeder that does their own vaccinations, screams puppy farmer, so I would actually assume that your pup was unhealthy from birth. Your vet was right to start the vaccinations again, as there is no guarantee that the pup was either actually vaccinated at all, or that it was done properly.

Giving the pup a KC vaccine a year later wouldn't be over vaccinating, as that is the vaccination protocol for that disease. The core vaccines now only need to be done every 3 years although with a pup, the booster after the first year is actually part of the initial vaccination.

Check the pet insurance issue, most will say that the dog should be vaccinated according to manufacturers protocol, which is now 3 years - except lepto which is still annual