Upgrading to Atmos

remoteboy

Hi Lads, 

I'm upgrading the home cinema set up (already posted a thread about getting a new TV) and I'm looking for help converting the current 5.1 setup to Atmos. 

My current receiver is a Marantz NR1608 which is Atmos ready so should be good there. My current speakers are KEF KHT 1005.1 (these guys - https://www.richersounds.com/kef-kht1005.html ).

First question is are the speakers fit for purpose or do they need upgrading? 
Second question (presuming I'm keeping the KEFs) is what (and how many) Atmos speakers would suit them? I'm open to all options including ceiling speakers if that's the way to go. 

The room is 18ft wide by 13ft long. Ceiling is just under 8ft high. 

Actually one other question while I have you there. I'm moving my turntable into the same room. I have a Project pre-amp so no problem if I want to connect to the Marantz. Just wondering would I be better off picking up an inexpensive (<£200) dedicated stereo amplifier and a pair of bookshelf speakers (eg. Wharfedale Diamond 9) instead?

Thanks for reading. 

All the best.

Michael

Richersounds.ie: Kenny

remoteboy wrote: »

Hi Lads, 

I'm upgrading the home cinema set up (already posted a thread about getting a new TV) and I'm looking for help converting the current 5.1 setup to Atmos. 

My current receiver is a Marantz NR1608 which is Atmos ready so should be good there. My current speakers are KEF KHT 1005.1 (these guys - https://www.richersounds.com/kef-kht1005.html ).

First question is are the speakers fit for purpose or do they need upgrading? 
Second question (presuming I'm keeping the KEFs) is what (and how many) Atmos speakers would suit them? I'm open to all options including ceiling speakers if that's the way to go. 

The room is 18ft wide by 13ft long. Ceiling is just under 8ft high. 

Actually one other question while I have you there. I'm moving my turntable into the same room. I have a Project pre-amp so no problem if I want to connect to the Marantz. Just wondering would I be better off picking up an inexpensive (<£200) dedicated stereo amplifier and a pair of bookshelf speakers (eg. Wharfedale Diamond 9) instead?

Thanks for reading. 

All the best.

Michael

Hi Remoteboy.

The NR1608 and your current KEF's are 100% and you would only need to add in the Atmos speakers.
If you add in two (1 pair) of Atmos speakers you can run a 5.1.2 setup.

Sticking with KEF for the Atmos speakers they would be the Q50A priced at £449
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-203060-kef-q50a-atmos-black-dolby-atmos-speakers-per-pair.aspx

Elac have the Debut A4 MK2 priced at £249
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-203404-elac-debut-a4-mk2-atmos-dolby-atmos-speakers-per-pair.aspx

If you wanted to go for inceiling speakers then either the Monitor Audio pro 65 which are priced at £69 each.
https://www.monitoraudio.com/en/product-ranges/pro/pro-65/

Or for a step up there is the C165 priced at £114.95 each
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-202897-monitor-audio-monitor-audio-c165-in-ceiling-speaker-each.aspx

Let me know which you are interested in and I'll see if I cna work a better price on them.

Regarding the turntable.
A sub £200 stereo amp will not sound as good as the NR1608 you would need to go up to the PM6006 UK se to get a comparison which is priced at £299
and the 9.0 are nowhere nearly as good as your KEF's.

Hope this helps a little.

Let me know your thoughts.

remoteboy

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Hi Remoteboy.

The NR1608 and your current KEF's are 100% and you would only need to add in the Atmos speakers.
If you add in two (1 pair) of Atmos speakers you can run a 5.1.2 setup.

Sticking with KEF for the Atmos speakers they would be the Q50A priced at £449
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-203060-kef-q50a-atmos-black-dolby-atmos-speakers-per-pair.aspx

Elac have the Debut A4 MK2 priced at £249
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-203404-elac-debut-a4-mk2-atmos-dolby-atmos-speakers-per-pair.aspx

If you wanted to go for inceiling speakers then either the Monitor Audio pro 65 which are priced at £69 each.
https://www.monitoraudio.com/en/product-ranges/pro/pro-65/

Or for a step up there is the C165 priced at £114.95 each
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-202897-monitor-audio-monitor-audio-c165-in-ceiling-speaker-each.aspx

Let me know which you are interested in and I'll see if I cna work a better price on them.

Regarding the turntable.
A sub £200 stereo amp will not sound as good as the NR1608 you would need to go up to the PM6006 UK se to get a comparison which is priced at £299
and the 9.0 are nowhere nearly as good as your KEF's.

Hope this helps a little.

Let me know your thoughts.

Hi Kenny. That’s really helpful. Do you have an opinion on the ceiling speaker versus wall mounted? The KEFs are out of my range so it would be a shoot out between the debut and the c165.

Richersounds.ie: Kenny

remoteboy wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Hi Remoteboy.

The NR1608 and your current KEF's are 100% and you would only need to add in the Atmos speakers.
If you add in two (1 pair) of Atmos speakers you can run a 5.1.2 setup.

Sticking with KEF for the Atmos speakers they would be the Q50A priced at £449
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-203060-kef-q50a-atmos-black-dolby-atmos-speakers-per-pair.aspx

Elac have the Debut A4 MK2 priced at £249
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-203404-elac-debut-a4-mk2-atmos-dolby-atmos-speakers-per-pair.aspx

If you wanted to go for inceiling speakers then either the Monitor Audio pro 65 which are priced at £69 each.
https://www.monitoraudio.com/en/product-ranges/pro/pro-65/

Or for a step up there is the C165 priced at £114.95 each
https://www.richersounds.ie/p-202897-monitor-audio-monitor-audio-c165-in-ceiling-speaker-each.aspx

Let me know which you are interested in and I'll see if I cna work a better price on them.

Regarding the turntable.
A sub £200 stereo amp will not sound as good as the NR1608 you would need to go up to the PM6006 UK se to get a comparison which is priced at £299
and the 9.0 are nowhere nearly as good as your KEF's.

Hope this helps a little.

Let me know your thoughts.

Hi Kenny. That’s really helpful. Do you have an opinion on the ceiling speaker versus wall mounted? The KEFs are out of my range so it would be a shoot out between the debut and the c165.

Hey Remoteboy.

If you can put in the in-ceiling speakers then that is the way to go for Atmos.

Atmos was originally designed to run with the in-ceiling speakers and then the upwards firing ones got produced when it was discovered not everyone could cut holes in the ceilings to run Atmos.

The C165 would do a fantastic job for the Atmos speakers. I could offer the pair of C165's for £200 delivered.

remoteboy

Hi Kenny,

That sounds great. Can you give me a quote for the c165s and the following items. I'm happy to pay in either euro or sterling, whatever works out cheapest (the euro pricing on the tv and the wall mount seems to be cheaper than the sterling). 

Panasonic tx55fz802b
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-203402-panasonic-tx55fz802b-55-inch-oled-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-freeview-play-freesat-hd.aspx

Sanus Wall Bracket for 55”
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-12678-sanus-vll5-slim-flat-bracket-51-80-inch-tv-bracket.aspx

Sanus Wall Bracket for 42”
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-200142-sanus-vml5-40-50-flat-tv-bracket-40-50-inch-tv-bracket.aspx?swapstore=1

speaker cable 40m
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-100247-cambridge-audio-symphony-300-speaker-cable-per-metre.aspx?swapstore=1

Many thanks.

Michael

Richersounds.ie: Kenny

remoteboy wrote: »

Hi Kenny,

That sounds great. Can you give me a quote for the c165s and the following items. I'm happy to pay in either euro or sterling, whatever works out cheapest (the euro pricing on the tv and the wall mount seems to be cheaper than the sterling). 

Panasonic tx55fz802b
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-203402-panasonic-tx55fz802b-55-inch-oled-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-freeview-play-freesat-hd.aspx

Sanus Wall Bracket for 55”
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-12678-sanus-vll5-slim-flat-bracket-51-80-inch-tv-bracket.aspx

Sanus Wall Bracket for 42”
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-200142-sanus-vml5-40-50-flat-tv-bracket-40-50-inch-tv-bracket.aspx?swapstore=1

speaker cable 40m
https://euro.richersounds.ie/p-100247-cambridge-audio-symphony-300-speaker-cable-per-metre.aspx?swapstore=1

Many thanks.

Michael

Hey Remoteboy.

There is currently a promo on the 55FZ802 sterling price only which brings it just below the Euro pricing.

I will quote for both sterling and Euro and you can see which works out cheaper for yourself.

In sterling I can offer a deal on all the items for £1570 sterling or 1873.99 Euro including deliver.

remoteboy

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Hey Remoteboy.

There is currently a promo on the 55FZ802 sterling price only which brings it just below the Euro pricing.

I will quote for both sterling and Euro and you can see which works out cheaper for yourself.

In sterling I can offer a deal on all the items for £1570 sterling or 1873.99 Euro including deliver.

Sterling deal sounds good. I’ll just go load up the Revolut card. Shall I call the shop with the card details?

Richersounds.ie: Kenny

remoteboy wrote: »

Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »

Hey Remoteboy.

There is currently a promo on the 55FZ802 sterling price only which brings it just below the Euro pricing.

I will quote for both sterling and Euro and you can see which works out cheaper for yourself.

In sterling I can offer a deal on all the items for £1570 sterling or 1873.99 Euro including deliver.

Sterling deal sounds good. I’ll just go load up the Revolut card. Shall I call the shop with the card details?

Hey RemoteBoy.

You can call the shop and ask for myself or if you drop me your contact number in a PM we can drop you a call when suits.

remoteboy

Just wanted to post an update to say thanks. Speakers, cable and brackets arrived within 24 hours with the TV arriving the next day. Fantastic service.

Got the TV set up over the weekend. Amazing picture out of the box. Great with motion and upscaling. Seriously impressed. Thanks again.

Richersounds.ie: John

Thanks Remoteboy - really appreciate the update and of course the kind words - I'll pass them onto the guys, they will be delighted ,

Thanks again and as ever keep us posted if we can ever assist in any way,

ATVB,

John Mc & Crew