Increased no. of UK supercars In Ireland

paul7g

Hey there, I’ve noticed there is quite a lot more supercars on UK plates in Ireland, and particularly in Dublin, over the last 6-12 months.

I was speaking to a friend recently who does Cannonball each year, and he was saying that the majority of Irish people driving cars on UK regs have businesses in the UK so they get away with the UK reg in Ireland, as the cars are registered to addresses in the UK.

Surely it can’t be as simple as that?

Paul

bazz26

I'd say most of them live abroad for xxx number of days per year so satisfy Revenues rules around not being resident in Ireland and reducing/eliminating their tax liability. I wouldn't blame them to be honest, the motorist gets shafted here when it comes to tax. Being able to afford something nice/exotic and owning it here just means they will try and shaft you even more.

paul7g

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd say most of them live abroad for xxx number of days per year so satisfy Revenues rules around not being resident in Ireland and reducing/eliminating their tax liability. I wouldn't blame them to be honest, the motorist gets shafted here when it comes to tax. Being able to afford something nice/exotic and owning it here just means they will try and shaft you even more.

Yeah, makes sense.

There seems to be a big increase in super cars in Ireland, which is great to see.

road_high

One of the missing aspects of Irish motoring , the relative lack of exotica to look at! Tax becomes absolutely crucifying at that level unfortunately

boombang

I've noticed loads of UK reg vehicles parked around Dublin 2 in recent months. These include premium private cars, commercial vehicles, both GB and NI plates.

The Irish tax regime is cruel, but it's not fair to let individuals off the hook while other pay their bills. I'd much prefer to be driving something bigger and more fun than a 1.2 Panda. I think Revenue must be asleep.

Dr_Colossus

In addition to the costs of tax and insurance I'd nearly be more concerned with the state of our appalling roads if driving anything exotic. This thread is a great example of our council's ineptitude and indifference when it comes to road maintenance:
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057877716
Plenty more examples for anyone driving around Dublin or in any village, town or city in Ireland. 20 inch low profile wheels may look the business but not when driven on our road network.

paul7g

boombang wrote: »

I've noticed loads of UK reg vehicles parked around Dublin 2 in recent months. These include premium private cars, commercial vehicles, both GB and NI plates.

The Irish tax regime is cruel, but it's not fair to let individuals off the hook while other pay their bills. I'd much prefer to be driving something bigger and more fun than a 1.2 Panda. I think Revenue must be asleep.

I don’t think we are paying anyone’s taxes for them. If they spend €250,000 on a car and they don’t pay the VRT because they can get away with it, I don’t see how we are paying their taxes as no VRT (tax) is being paid?

Dartz

My first thouught is that it's the toffs abandoning the Brexitanic again....

bazz26

boombang wrote: »

I've noticed loads of UK reg vehicles parked around Dublin 2 in recent months. These include premium private cars, commercial vehicles, both GB and NI plates.

The Irish tax regime is cruel, but it's not fair to let individuals off the hook while other pay their bills. I'd much prefer to be driving something bigger and more fun than a 1.2 Panda. I think Revenue must be asleep.

There is a big difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. These people are playing by Revenue's rules, they pay the minimum tax that is required of them.

paul7g

bazz26 wrote: »

There is a big difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. These people are playing by Revenue's rules, they pay the minimum tax that is required of them.

Yes, true.

What are the actual rules or conditions required in order to drive or it’s probably more accurate to say ‘possess a UK registered car in Ireland’ as most of the UK supercars are probably only taken out once in a while.

I’m sure it doesn’t apply to 99.99% of people in Ireland, but it would be interesting to know what grants someone in Ireland to keep their car on a UK registration.

Charles Babbage

If you are normally resident in the outside the State then you are not obliged to drive an Irish registered car.
If you are normally resident inside the State then you cannot drive a foreign registered car, in general.
These vehicles could be a mixed bag. Wealthy middle Eastern students might us a UK reg here to get a right hand drive vehicle. Some of these are plutocratic bankers who have moved because of Brexit, they'll probably have to transfer residence. Some horsey people not resident in Ireland might still keep a car here for their visits to stud farms etc. Several Irish millionaires have transferred residence abroad, but likely keep a yoke here too. A non resident can hire an Irish resident as a chauffeur.

If I were Gardai I'd double check the insurance on these and double check that the owner is not a drug dealer.

ofcork

When Michael flatley was living in Fermoy his rr phantom and sl65 were on uk plates.

mikeecho

Charles Babbage wrote: »

If you are normally resident in the outside the State then you are not obliged to drive an Irish registered car.
If you are normally resident inside the State then you cannot drive a foreign registered car, in general.
These vehicles could be a mixed bag. Wealthy middle Eastern students might us a UK reg here to get a right hand drive vehicle. Some of these are plutocratic bankers who have moved because of Brexit, they'll probably have to transfer residence. Some horsey people not resident in Ireland might still keep a car here for their visits to stud farms etc. Several Irish millionaires have transferred residence abroad, but likely keep a yoke here too. A non resident can hire an Irish resident as a chauffeur.

If I were Gardai I'd double check the insurance on these and double check that the owner is not a drug dealer.

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