Why has my medical card application been refused?

Jp1506

I am under 25 and have been unemployed for more than 1 year. I receive €112.70 a week jobseekers allowance. I live with my grandparents who are both pensioners, but don't have medical cards.

Jp1506

Jp1506 wrote: »

I am under 25 and have been unemployed for more than 1 year. I receive €112.70 a week jobseekers allowance. I live with my grandparents who are both pensioners, but don't have medical cards.

Your grandparents pensions must have been taken into account.

Jp1506

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Your grandparents pensions must have been taken into account.

Yeah they probably were but that doesn't have any benefit to me. They are good enough to let me live with them. I have to pay for all my own food and utilities. It's ridiculous.

Deagol

Jp1506 wrote: »

Yeah they probably were but that doesn't have any benefit to me. They are good enough to let me live with them. I have to pay for all my own food and utilities. It's ridiculous.

Presuming that because you're on jobseekers there's nothing preventing you getting a job....

What's ridiculous is that you've been unemployed for a year in a country with almost full employment. You expect the tax payers who work to look after your expenses and medical needs??

Jp1506

Deagol wrote: »

Presuming that because you're on jobseekers there's nothing preventing you getting a job....

What's ridiculous is that you've been unemployed for a year in a country with almost full employment. You expect the tax payers who work to look after your expenses and medical needs??

I'm trying my best to get a job. Nobody willing to give me a chance though. No I'm not expecting tax payers to look after me, I just want what I'm entitled to and to be treated fairly. Heaven knows there's enough people (most not even Irish) getting all sorts of benefits and medical cards handed to them.

SCOOP 64

its all taken into account, eg how much rent you pay your grandparents etc..

Jp1506

Jp1506 wrote: »

I'm trying my best to get a job. Nobody willing to give me a chance though. No I'm not expecting tax payers to look after me, I just want what I'm entitled to and to be treated fairly. Heaven knows there's enough people (most not even Irish) getting all sorts of benefits and medical cards handed to them.

Maybe stop the slightly racist attitude, and you might get somewhere.

You should get what you're entitled to. You may have filled out the form incorrectly, as in putting in your expenditure as too low, because I would imagine someone on such a low income would be entitled to a medical card.

splinter65

Jp1506 wrote: »

I am under 25 and have been unemployed for more than 1 year. I receive €112.70 a week jobseekers allowance. I live with my grandparents who are both pensioners, but don't have medical cards.

Hi JP
What does the letter of refusal say?

khaldrogo

Deleted User wrote:

Maybe stop the slightly racist attitude, and you might get somewhere.

Where's the racism? Non nationals in Ireland include a large amount of caucasian Europeans. PC culture gone mad that you can't even suggest that a large % of the non nationals living here are claiming benefits.

khaldrogo

khaldrogo wrote: »

Where's the racism? Non nationals in Ireland include a large amount of caucasian Europeans. PC culture gone mad that you can't even suggest that a large % of the non nationals living here are claiming benefits.

It's PC gone mad that you would take offence at pointing out the statement, "Heaven knows there's enough people (most not even Irish) getting all sorts of benefits and medical cards handed to them." is slightly racist.

Edit: maybe I should have said xenophobic instead.

Atlantic Dawn

Are you ill, do you need regular medical care? When I was 20's I visited the doctor maybe 5 times in those 10 years.

Scienceless

khaldrogo wrote: »

Where's the racism? Non nationals in Ireland include a large amount of caucasian Europeans. PC culture gone mad that you can't even suggest that a large % of the non nationals living here are claiming benefits.

Well said.

Blazedup

Jsa for 25 yr old is 157.80

Why are you on 112?

It was my understanding that any one on jsa is entitled to a medical card.

Jp1506

khaldrogo wrote: »

Where's the racism? Non nationals in Ireland include a large amount of caucasian Europeans. PC culture gone mad that you can't even suggest that a large % of the non nationals living here are claiming benefits.

Thanks for sticking up for me. I didn't think I was racist either. People are so quick nowadays to accuse somebody of being racist that they forget the meaning of the word.

Jp1506

Blazedup wrote: »

Jsa for 25 yr old is 157.80

Why are you on 112?

It was my understanding that any one on jsa is entitled to a medical card.

I'm under 25 (23) so I get the lower rate. I thought so too but obviously not. I'm going to appeal the decision.

Bubbaclaus

khaldrogo wrote: »

Where's the racism? Non nationals in Ireland include a large amount of caucasian Europeans. PC culture gone mad that you can't even suggest that a large % of the non nationals living here are claiming benefits.

Non-nationals in Ireland are statistically more likely to be in employment than Irish people.

Jp1506

splinter65 wrote: »

Hi JP
What does the letter of refusal say?

That I don't fall into the criteria to receive a medical card.

khaldrogo

Deleted User wrote:

It's PC gone mad that you would take offence at pointing out the statement, "Heaven knows there's enough people (most not even Irish) getting all sorts of benefits and medical cards handed to them." is slightly racist.

Deleted User wrote:

Edit: maybe I should have said xenophobic instead.

Yes you should have.
It shows a lot about you that you spewed the word 'racist' as if you do it any time anyone one has something even slightly negative to say about a non national.

Virtue signalling, SJW bs gone mad....

listermint

Jp1506 wrote: »

Thanks for sticking up for me. I didn't think I was racist either. People are so quick nowadays to accuse somebody of being racist that they forget the meaning of the word.

Not theyre quick to call out waffles.

You threw a slight out about foreigners taking their entitlements over you. You were called out.

Facts are facts foreign nationals are more likely to be in employment because they will go and look for work and really take what's going and build on it


No offence.. actually probably some offense. You won't do what they are doing and dishing out excuses about not being given a change .


Basically this thread is an example of entitlement attitude. You even used it in your post.

khaldrogo

Bubbaclaus wrote:

Non-nationals in Ireland are statistically more likely to be in employment than Irish people.

Can you show me where you found that info? Does it break it down by country? I'd be interested to read that report. Can you link it please?

khaldrogo

listermint wrote:

No offence.. actually probably some offense. You won't do what they are doing and dishing out excuses about not being given a change .

How do you know this about this poster?

elperello

OP
Go to your local Citizens Advice Centre and see if they can point you in the right direction.

PhoenixParker

khaldrogo wrote: »

Can you show me where you found that info? Does it break it down by country? I'd be interested to read that report. Can you link it please?

https://www.cso.ie/en/csolatestnews/presspages/2017/census2016profile11employmentoccupationsandindustry/

Under infographics, bottom left corner is one example.

Jp1506

khaldrogo wrote: »

How do you know this about this poster?

Jumping to conclusions.

lawred2

Jp1506 wrote: »

I'm trying my best to get a job. Nobody willing to give me a chance though. No I'm not expecting tax payers to look after me, I just want what I'm entitled to and to be treated fairly. Heaven knows there's enough people (most not even Irish) getting all sorts of benefits and medical cards handed to them.

and?

so you should get one because?

get a job

khaldrogo

PhoenixParker wrote:

Under infographics, bottom left corner is one example.

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Is says in the top left there is a little over 2mil people working. Then below that where you said to look it's says 2.3mil in the labour force! Which is it?
Then it says the 2.3mil is just over 61%. Of what? The total population or the total labour force?
Is the total labour force equal to the total amount working + the total amount on the dole?
Then it says of the 61%, 76% are Europeans (what% are not Irish?) and 64% are non Europeans.

Then in the middle it says of the 80k recent immigrants, only 40k are working.


From all this information, am I missing where it says most of the non nationals are working?

So much judgement in this thread. I was unemployed briefly many years ago, and it was horrible. For anyone with any ambition or sense of self worth, it's important to have a purpose. For most of us, that's a job. If you can't find a job, and nobody knows OP's circumstances, that's a kick in the teeth. Far worse when you post a request for support and get judged by others who probably never saw a day of poverty.

Irexit

Deagol wrote: »

Presuming that because you're on jobseekers there's nothing preventing you getting a job....

What's ridiculous is that you've been unemployed for a year in a country with almost full employment. You expect the tax payers who work to look after your expenses and medical needs??

We have never had "full employment".


https://www.thejournal.ie/jobless-households-3832381-Feb2018/

gypsy79

I was unemployed due to illness, previously self employed and not receiving any benefits and they refused me when I had cancer. So I doubt you will get one unless you have a need

Irexit

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Non-nationals in Ireland are statistically more likely to be in employment than Irish people.

What about the Nigerians ?


The last I read most of them were unemployed.

Irexit

khaldrogo wrote: »

Where's the racism? Non nationals in Ireland include a large amount of caucasian Europeans. PC culture gone mad that you can't even suggest that a large % of the non nationals living here are claiming benefits.

Also bogus asylum seekers can just walk into Ireland and get free Medical Cards.


While Irish people who paid into the system for years can be entitled to nothing if their income is too high.


Its no wonder some people are "racist".