Auxiliary lane: why bother

usernamegoes

Should we all just stop using the auxiliary lane at peak times? Why bother queuing up when all we need to do is pop in the last second.

It's been grinding my gears, the number of people who won't queue up in the aux lane and just barge in near the top. It's really inconsiderate and rude. It also has the effect of slowing down lane one while these ass holes drive slowly trying to find a gap to jump into or in some cases come to a complete stop in lane 1.

amcalester

Worse than the ****ers cutting in are the tools slowing down to allow them in.

Drive on ta ****.

Pops_20

What's an auxiliary lane?

Vittu

Pops_20 wrote: »

What's an auxiliary lane?

Exit lane

Allinall

usernamegoes wrote: »

Should we all just stop using the auxiliary lane at peak times? Why bother queuing up when all we need to do is pop in the last second.

It's been grinding my gears, the number of people who won't queue up in the aux lane and just barge in near the top. It's really inconsiderate and rude. It also has the effect of slowing down lane one while these ass holes drive slowly trying to find a gap to jump into or in some cases come to a complete stop in lane 1.

You do realize that if we all stop using the auxiliary lane, the problem will move to lane 1, with people shooting up lane 2 and jumping in at the last minute.

This will leave the auxiliary lane empty for the likes of me, who drive properly.

R.O.R

Pops_20 wrote: »

What's an auxiliary lane?

It's the tracker mortgage of the road.

creedp

Allinall wrote: »

You do realize that if we all stop using the auxiliary lane, the problem will move to lane 1, with people shooting up lane 2 and jumping in at the last minute.

This will leave the auxiliary lane empty for the likes of me, who drive properly.

Its not just auxiliary lanes where this problem arises. Its great fun in the morning watching the guys use the M2 M50 South lane and sail pass the queue for Finglas only to indicate left at last minute and squeeze back into the Finglas lane. I've even seen a truck do this which is alarming to say the least. One of these mornings there is going to be a very nasty accident when one of these guys will dive into a non existent gap!

markpb

usernamegoes wrote: »

It's been grinding my gears, the number of people who won't queue up in the aux lane and just barge in near the top.

I thought the point of the auxiliary lane (on the M50 at least) was to stop traffic travelling a single exit from having the merge in and out of mainline traffic. For everyone else, they're free to join the aux lane at any time, there's no requirement to join it as soon as possible.

Seth Brundle

markpb wrote: »

I thought the point of the auxiliary lane (on the M50 at least) was to stop traffic travelling a single exit from having the merge in and out of mainline traffic. For everyone else, they're free to join the aux lane at any time, there's no requirement to join it as soon as possible.

Most people will use the aux lane properly.
However, you get selfish pricks who believe that they are entitled to drive in lane 1 parallel to slow moving traffic until they spot a gap in the auxillary lane and pull left to take the space.
In somce occasions, they won't find a proper gap and will suddenly stop in lane 1 until someone lets them in. I frequently see people brake suddenly and traffic behind them has to stop suddenly. Sometimes this traffic can be HGVs following close enough behind for a potential fatal incident.

Hoboo

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Most people will use the aux lane properly.
However, you get selfish pricks who believe that they are entitled to drive in lane 1 parallel to slow moving traffic until they spot a gap in the auxillary lane and pull left to take the space.
In somce occasions, they won't find a proper gap and will suddenly stop in lane 1 until someone lets them in. I frequently see people brake suddenly and traffic behind them has to stop suddenly. Sometimes this traffic can be HGVs following close enough behind for a potential fatal incident.

Stopping in lane 1 is completely different, don't agree with that. I continue until I see a significant gap, usually on front of a truck that has just started moving or someone texting on their phone, if theres no space I continue and miss my turn. Happens 5% of the time, thems the breaks.

kerten

Expecting all people to use common sense is a huge expectation from life. I hate those too and my solution is not to give them a space if they are abusing that lane or stay away from lane 1 and ignore them all.

creedp

creedp wrote: »

Its not just auxiliary lanes where this problem arises. Its great fun in the morning watching the guys use the M2 M50 South lane and sail pass the queue for Finglas only to indicate left at last minute and squeeze back into the Finglas lane. I've even seen a truck do this which is alarming to say the least. One of these mornings there is going to be a very nasty accident when one of these guys will dive into a non existent gap!

I think the right attitude here is that, by doing the right thing as most of the people do, ensures that the society doesn't fall into anarchy. There are always number of people that don't do the right thing, but hopefully those people don't live in the same part of the city as the rest of us. Like the parts where Tesco can't deliver groceries anymore.

marieholmfan

Place flexible bollards for 600 metres before the exit with small defined merging areas after that.

Isambard

marieholmfan wrote: »

Place flexible bollards for 600 metres before the exit with small defined merging areas after that.

Just move the problem back 600 metres and nullify the point of having the auxiliary lane.

Tazzimus

I find they do the opposite as well, if the filter lane has less traffic, they will boot it up that and cut back in at the last minute to get ahead of a few hundred metres of traffic.
I notice it a lot where the N4 becomes the M4 and goes from three lanes to two.

freddieot

Part of the problem is some drivers leaving far too big a gap in the exit lane. I've often been stuck behind some individual doing 80-90 and will not go to 100 no matter how much clear road is in front of them.

freddieot

Another growing menace are the idiots that who change from the slow lane into the exit lane, just exactly where cars are coming off the slip roads down into the exit \ auxiliary lane. I see this every evening coming from the Naas Road onto the M50 Northbound.

So you not only have to try to negotiate your way onto the M50 (Exit Lane) as you come down the slip road but you also have to watch for eager beavers already on the M50 that can't wait until a few yards after the point where cars are joining the M50 before changing lanes themselves for the next junction - miles away....

I'm not saying it is technically wrong, just bloody stupid...

Dravokivich

markpb wrote: »

I thought the point of the auxiliary lane (on the M50 at least) was to stop traffic travelling a single exit from having the merge in and out of mainline traffic. For everyone else, they're free to join the aux lane at any time, there's no requirement to join it as soon as possible.

On m50 north bound, people pop into the exit lane just before the ramps coming up to junction 7.

kc66

freddieot wrote: »

Another growing menace are the idiots that who change from the slow lane into the exit lane, just exactly where cars are coming off the slip roads down into the exit \ auxiliary lane. I see this every evening coming from the Naas Road onto the M50 Northbound.

So you not only have to try to negotiate your way onto the M50 (Exit Lane) as you come down the slip road but you also have to watch for eager beavers already on the M50 that can't wait until a few yards after the point where cars are joining the M50 before changing lanes themselves for the next junction - miles away....

I'm not saying it is technically wrong, just bloody stupid...

Had this problem a few times where trucks/buses pull into the lane as I am about to merge, usually fairly slow moving traffic. Absolute stupidity from "professional" drivers. There should be a solid white line preventing them from crossing at this point.

Dravokivich

amcalester wrote: »

Worse than the ****ers cutting in are the tools slowing down to allow them in.

Drive on ta ****.

I'll slow down because being right is no consolidation while laying up on a hospital trolley.

Dravokivich

freddieot wrote: »

Another growing menace are the idiots that who change from the slow lane into the exit lane, just exactly where cars are coming off the slip roads down into the exit \ auxiliary lane. I see this every evening coming from the Naas Road onto the M50 Northbound.

So you not only have to try to negotiate your way onto the M50 (Exit Lane) as you come down the slip road but you also have to watch for eager beavers already on the M50 that can't wait until a few yards after the point where cars are joining the M50 before changing lanes themselves for the next junction - miles away....

I'm not saying it is technically wrong, just bloody stupid...

I always wait for when everyone looking to merge in has had the opportunity to do so, I wont affect it, or well, it's clear.

Dravokivich

freddieot wrote: »

Part of the problem is some drivers leaving far too big a gap in the exit lane. I've often been stuck behind some individual doing 80-90 and will not go to 100 no matter how much clear road is in front of them.

What's stopping you from over taking then?

mfceiling

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'll slow down because being right is no consolidation while laying up on a hospital trolley.

That may be true but unfortunately that just encourages these pricks to continue doing it. I often see people pulling out behind in the lane I'm in, then drive up the outside (right turn only lane) and then at the last second throw on their left indicator looking to be let in....Yeah you can fcuk off.

Abba987

Dravokivich wrote: »

What's stopping you from over taking then?

The idiots trying to get in

Dravokivich

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Most people will use the aux lane properly.
However, you get selfish pricks who believe that they are entitled to drive in lane 1 parallel to slow moving traffic until they spot a gap in the auxillary lane and pull left to take the space.
In somce occasions, they won't find a proper gap and will suddenly stop in lane 1 until someone lets them in. I frequently see people brake suddenly and traffic behind them has to stop suddenly. Sometimes this traffic can be HGVs following close enough behind for a potential fatal incident.

They should stop driving so close to the cars in front of them then.

blackbox

Technically, as long as it's not a continuous white line, people are allowed to change lanes (provided it is safe).

Dravokivich

Abba987 wrote: »

The idiots trying to get in

So, its unsafe to over take, becuase of people rushing into the originating lane, but you expect the person in front to go faster?

freddieot

Abba987 wrote: »

The idiots trying to get in

and the long line of heavy traffic in the slow lane - going slow - which is fair enough !

freddieot

Dravokivich wrote: »

So, its unsafe to over take, becuase of people rushing into the originating lane, but you expect the person in front to go faster?

Where did I say it was unsafe to overtake ? I overtake them, when it's safe to do so.

I do expect the person in front to generally keep up with traffic, particularly at busy times when it may not be easy for other drivers to go around them, if by doing so they still stay under the legal speed limit.

Dravokivich

freddieot wrote: »

Where did I say it was unsafe to overtake ? I overtake them, when it's safe to do so.

I do expect the person in front to generally keep up with traffic, particularly at busy times when it may not be easy for other drivers to go around them, if by doing so they still stay under the legal speed limit.

I was responding to their answer to my question. I didn't associate it with you.

amcalester

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'll slow down because being right is no consolidation while laying up on a hospital trolley.

Of course, but I mean the drivers who practically beckon other drivers in front of them.

If someone barges into a non-existent gap I’ll brake, there just won’t be a gap and nor will I be a good samaritan and slow down to create one.

usernamegoes

Allinall wrote: »

You do realize that if we all stop using the auxiliary lane, the problem will move to lane 1, with people shooting up lane 2 and jumping in at the last minute.

This will leave the auxiliary lane empty for the likes of me, who drive properly.

I agree, I was trying to be facetious.

blackbox wrote: »

Technically, as long as it's not a continuous white line, people are allowed to change lanes (provided it is safe).

Granted. Technically. But my point is if we all acted like assholes but technically within the rules it would make driving a nightmare.

Dravokivich

amcalester wrote: »

Of course, but I mean the drivers who practically beckon other drivers in front of them.

If someone barges into a non-existent gap I’ll brake, there just won’t be a gap and nor will I be a good samaritan and slow down to create one.

Youd hate driving behind me, if you don't like gaps. I don't like people being close to me.

68 lost souls

freddieot wrote: »

and the long line of heavy traffic in the slow lane - going slow - which is fair enough !

There are no slow lanes it’s the driving lane. There no fast lanes they are overtaking lanes.

I have two similar pet peeves at J12 coming off. One is normally caused by the others. Coming off north bound and merging left towards Firhouse there is an auxiliary lane of a hundred meters or so. Traffic is normally backed up from the cross roads 500m up all the way back over the flyover.

First car through the lights on the slip tries to start merging 2 meters into the auxiliary lane instead of driving all the way to the end. Then no other car gets through the lights.

This creates a que that goes several hundred meters back where there is no auxiliary lane on the M50 so people have to que in the hard shoulder and it takes 4-5 cycles of lights to get through.

Then som bright spark a hole drives up the second auxiliary lane as if to turn right over the flyover and thinks they are entitled to cut left into the que to turn left at the front. And the bigger idtiots let them in. Sorry son jog on turn right and go all the way to the new roundabout and back up that way please if you do that.

dudara

My pet peeve are drivers who slow down when they enter the auxiliary lane, even though there could still be 1km to the junction. FFS, just drive along at 100 km/hr or whatever the limit is, will you?!

Sometimes it’s just easier to leave the auxiliary lane to overtake them, and then return back in.