A good rivet.......

Grueller

Lads and lassies, I am currently making a set of gates to roughly match a set off my parents house. They are a traditional flat bar gate. I am making a box frame and mig welding them to galvanise them. I do however want to put the rivets in them as well for effect. My problem is getting them. Does anybody know anyone in the southeast selling them or alternatively online anywhere. I like to shop local if possible.
Thanks

Willfarman

Did you try Denbys ?

Gen.Zhukov

The heads on a cup sq bolt (coach bolt) would give a good rivet effect. if you didn't want to have the nut on the inside of the gate you could weld it in.

dohc turbo2

Talitech in cork have them in all different sizes

kollegeknight

Grueller wrote: »

Lads and lassies, I am currently making a set of gates to roughly match a set off my parents house. They are a traditional flat bar gate. I am making a box frame and mig welding them to galvanise them. I do however want to put the rivets in them as well for effect. My problem is getting them. Does anybody know anyone in the southeast selling them or alternatively online anywhere. I like to shop local if possible.
Thanks

Why size are you looking for? There is a guy on adverts that sells stock from old forges and workshops, he might have something. Dunno can I put his name up but if you search rivets, it should show up.

gozunda

Make your own? Some interesting DIY tutorials online.

patsy_mccabe

I used to put them on the blades of finger-bar mower, cutting bars years ago. Some messing around then with not even the proper tools to work.

blue5000

What size and how many do you want? Old style hardware shops might have a box of them in an old store.

Say my name

blue5000 wrote: »

What size and how many do you want? Old style hardware shops might have a box of them in an old store.

If he's looking for an old style hardware shop?
The Farm Shop , enniscorthy.

kollegeknight

gozunda wrote: »

Make your own? Some interesting DIY tutorials online.

You can pick up a snap set on line to do it for about £8 plus delivery.

Nekarsulm

A piece of round bar put through a drilled hole, and reddened with oxy-acetylene (or in a coal fire) then hammered into shape. They won't be very regular in appearance though.

gozunda

Nekarsulm wrote: »

A piece of round bar put through a drilled hole, and reddened with oxy-acetylene (or in a coal fire) then hammered into shape. They won't be very regular in appearance though.

Saw it done - guy was a master at it. Couldnt tell them from machine made tbh.

SuperTortoise

Someone beat me to it but as said, a cup head bolt, cut off the thread and tack in 3 places might look acceptable.
Although if going to the bother of sourcing proper rivets it may not!,

https://www.donedeal.ie/tools-for-sale/12mm-iron-rivets/21345397

I know you are looking for cup head rivets which are different to theese , but if he does'nt have them himself he'll probably know where to get them, might be worth a call.

Odelay

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Someone beat me to it but as said, a cup head bolt, cut off the thread and tack in 3 places might look acceptable.
Although if going to the bother of sourcing proper rivets it may not!,

https://www.donedeal.ie/tools-for-sale/12mm-iron-rivets/21345397

I know you are looking for cup head rivets which are different to theese , but if he does'nt have them himself he'll probably know where to get them, might be worth a call.

He’ll source them for you.

dohc turbo2

There is a simple way if ur doing a lot of them but if just one gate not worth the hassle , there only a few cents each . You can shorten an old punch off a punch machine and makes a lovely job no welding on back , the nice way is to forge the revit on the back ,and it looks same front and back then . haven’t used them for good few years then , then one job in a pub took well over 1000 of them last year .

Muckit

Love the old forged gate style. The rivets give that authentic look. Box iron on hanging end and T top and bottom solve the wobble problem of the older gates.

Proportion is equally important IMO. The older gates were around 9'. You see lads making wider single gates but l think this takes from the look and should go with a double gate instead.

A nice set of gate posts in local stone (limestone around here) really set them off.

Bass Reeves

Riveting is an art in itself. You can cold rivet up to a certain size. You had to have a counter punch and a method of holding the implement beings riveted Hot riveting is a different skill. You need to heat rivet to the right temperature +/- 50C or maybe 80C. Because of this the hole size is larger than normal metal size. You place rivet in position and hammer away. But you need rivet cut to exact sizes and someone to cap the other end. It's a lost trade in the ship yard in Belfast lads threw heated rivets 50-100 feet to riveters apprentice's who caught them in a cup placed them in to the metal holes for the riveter to form

patsy_mccabe

You mean likee this Muckit - Pic of old style gates in a grave yard in Clare.