Council Felling of Trees to facilitate 5G roll out

Road-Hog

Lots of speculation and some people utterly convienced that the council’s recent felling and pruning of trees around the city is all part of the 5G project and that the council are being instructed by central government to get things as 5G friendly as possible. Apparently 5G signals don’t like ‘leaves’......

JohnC.

Sounds like a load of hogwash.

Harry Palmr

Oh please - if that was true then every tree in every town and City would be cut down.

JohnC.

It really is one of those nonsense things that tends to get circulated on Facebook these days. The same story has been repeated elsewhere, complete with fake pictures in some cases. It also features on places that claim phone signals are giving us all cancer and on David Icke stuff.

Sleeper12

There are groups all around the world spreading this nonsense. Not just about Waterford obviously. Lots of groups in the UK.

It's worth remembering that the mob phone companies are private companies. Only your local council can cut the trees.

Road-Hog

Sleeper12 wrote: »

There are groups all around the world spreading this nonsense. Not just about Waterford obviously. Lots of groups in the UK.

It's worth remembering that the mob phone companies are private companies. Only your local council can cut the trees.

The removal of the trees outside the tower hotel sparked the whole thing off from what I can gather....!

Odelay

Road-Hog wrote: »

Lots of speculation and some people utterly convienced that the council’s recent felling and pruning of trees around the city is all part of the 5G project and that the council are being instructed by central government to get things as 5G friendly as possible. Apparently 5G signals don’t like ‘leaves’......

That’s pure bullsh1t. Leaves do not interfere in 5G signal.

How do these people manage to get out the door in the morning with that level of stupidity?

zapitastas

There is a large scale felling of trees around the country but they appear to be alongside roadways. I imagine councils and landowners are preparing for more frequent storms and insurance liabilities. Is a shame to see some great oaks being felled but understandable. Hopefully replacements will be replanted in more appropriate locations

Road-Hog

These people would have you convinced that councils are carrying out large scale deafforestation along the scale of what goes on in South America/Brazil/amazon.....any tress being removed by council would probably be 1. In danger of falling 2. Diseased 3. Interfering with sight lines at road junctions 4. Is in the footprint of some public works Contract......I just don’t see the ‘wanton’ removal of trees that they are referring to. If they (council) carry out replacement planting close to the location of knocked tree or in some other area then I don’t see the big deal....? Maybe I’m way off the mark...?

Anteayer

It's to do with insane insurance claims and bad tree management in urban areas generally in Ireland.

It's absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with 5G.

JohnC.

There's also been a lot of planting of trees inappropriate for the location in the past, which some councils are remedying these days, usually replacing them with something more appropriate.

Road-Hog

JohnC. wrote: »

There's also been a lot of planting of trees inappropriate for the location in the past, which some councils are remedying these days, usually replacing them with something more appropriate.

Again these anti 5G people are utterly convinced that any local authority tree maintenance is all part of preparing the land or street scape for 5G roll out....!

5G emits electromagnetic forces/radiation that fries your brain,skin, genetials etc....we r all doomed as a civilization.

MartyMcFly84

Do you think other major cities will cut down their mature trees or lined boulevards for 5G ? It's a load of baloney.

The issue is in Ireland we either make a poor selection of tree choice, or the council does not want to spend to money maintaining them or we dont know how, then there is the fear they will fall in storms/legal cases etc. Other countries just get on with it and have lovely mature trees in their cities. Something we struggle with here.

friendlyfun

Stay away from this anti-5G campaign. Saw that one of them was an anti-vaxer, I was like no way not buying their deceit.

Encouraging people to make signs out of cardboard to oppose destruction of trees. Morons.

BBM77

Road-Hog wrote: »

These people would have you convinced that councils are carrying out large scale deafforestation along the scale of what goes on in South America/Brazil/amazon.....any tress being removed by council would probably be 1. In danger of falling 2. Diseased 3. Interfering with sight lines at road junctions 4. Is in the footprint of some public works Contract......I just don’t see the ‘wanton’ removal of trees that they are referring to. If they (council) carry out replacement planting close to the location of knocked tree or in some other area then I don’t see the big deal....? Maybe I’m way off the mark...?

Think there is a push also these days to remove non-native species as well. They are seen as invasive and native species would be better. Makes sense to me.

bullpost

Road-Hog wrote: »

Lots of speculation and some people utterly convienced that the council’s recent felling and pruning of trees around the city is all part of the 5G project and that the council are being instructed by central government to get things as 5G friendly as possible. Apparently 5G signals don’t like ‘leaves’......

more likely they are concerned hackers will be able to get "root" access

JCX BXC

Such bizzare and absurd conspiracy theories like this makes you really fear for the current world.

lawred2

Road-Hog wrote: »

Lots of speculation and some people utterly convienced that the council’s recent felling and pruning of trees around the city is all part of the 5G project and that the council are being instructed by central government to get things as 5G friendly as possible. Apparently 5G signals don’t like ‘leaves’......

source = facebook

fricatus

lawred2 wrote: »

source = facebook

Well I never!

Captain Red Beard

BBM77 wrote: »

Think there is a push also these days to remove non-native species as well. They are seen as invasive and native species would be better. Makes sense to me.

That had more to do with those Sitka spruce forests which are just a cash crop for Coillte.

Eric Cartman

JCX BXC wrote: »

Such bizzare and absurd conspiracy theories like this makes you really fear for the current world.

its peddled by people who are usually anti vaxxers or shell2sea conspiracy nuts. They oppose all progress . Usually the telltale signs are the vauge 'it could cause itching, sleeplessness, depression, a runny nose, night sweating' etc.. and then the season changes, everyone gets a cold and they shriek 'look look we were right'

hardybuck

Captain Red Beard wrote: »

That had more to do with those Sitka spruce forests which are just a cash crop for Coillte.

I think there is a bit more focus everywhere on what types of trees are suitable for the location they're in, and recognition that unsuitable trees can have a negative impact on the local area.

Think about those who plant ash trees in their gardens near boundary walls and then totally lose control of them. They grow too tall, people try and prune them and then they grow even faster. London Plane trees on urban streets which take away natural light and roots which destroy pavements.

A number of County Councils will have tree strategies, and some people will have noted Fingal Council are actually giving away free native Irish trees at the moment to help encourage pollinating insects - I think they've given away about 1,000.

It seems as though native Irish trees will be planted in Dungarvan to replace the unsuitable and dead trees which were removed.

kayaksurfbum

hardybuck wrote: »

I think there is a bit more focus everywhere on what types of trees are suitable for the location they're in, and recognition that unsuitable trees can have a negative impact on the local area.

Think about those who plant ash trees in their gardens near boundary walls and then totally lose control of them. They grow too tall, people try and prune them and then they grow even faster. London Plane trees on urban streets which take away natural light and roots which destroy pavements.

A number of County Councils will have tree strategies, and some people will have noted Fingal Council are actually giving away free native Irish trees at the moment to help encourage pollinating insects - I think they've given away about 1,000.

It seems as though native Irish trees will be planted in Dungarvan to replace the unsuitable and dead trees which were removed.

Ah here,,, there's no need for rational explanations. Think of the 5G been blocked by the governments leaves or whatever!!

kilkenny31

Sure if the people protesting 5g just get this they'll be alright. Problem solved.

Road-Hog

Had a look at a few face book pages Re the ‘mass tree felling’.......talk about OTT reaction.....if council are doing the replanting as they say they are committed to then I don’t really c a major issue.....reading the face book stuff and comments would have you think that there is amazon scale deforestation taking place.....last time I drove around town I saw 100’s of trees.....the odd stump here and there but for the most part there were still plenty of leaves every where to block the 5G signals so obviously the council has a lot of work to do and is way behind program if it is actually trimming and removing trees to facilitate 5G. ......?

Harry Palmr

5G is live as of today, so watch the skies for falling birds and the ground for dying trees.

hardybuck

Harry Palmr wrote: »

5G is live as of today, so watch the skies for falling birds and the ground for dying trees.

How dare they include Waterford in it as well, along with the other cities.

mooseknunkle

hardybuck wrote: »

How dare they include Waterford in it as well, along with the other cities.

Have a look at the comments on Wlr's facebook about this,one woman said its going to cause more homelessness because people will have to move out of their homes due to the radiation :eek:

jmcc

Odelay wrote: »

That’s pure bullsh1t. Leaves do not interfere in 5G signal.

Technically, leaves can interfere with or attenuate radio signals. The effect varies by frequency.

Not sure about the whole anti-5G thing though as there are other arguments for removing or pruning trees.

Regards...jmcc

mooseknunkle

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Have a look at the comments on Wlr's facebook about this,one woman said its going to cause more homelessness because people will have to move out of their homes due to the radiation :eek:

I ended up arguing with those nut jobs and then realized "why am I aruging with people so f*cking stupid" and just deactivated Facebook again.

Facebook is a swamp of idiots who think they know more than doctors becuase they watched a YouTube video or people who think they know more about 5G than scientists because they watched YouTube. Urghh

JCX BXC

To be honest, this 5g scare crew give me more of a headache than 5g ever will.

mooseknunkle

Deleted User wrote: »

I ended up arguing with those nut jobs and then realized "why am I aruging with people so f*cking stupid" and just deactivated Facebook again.

Facebook is a swamp of idiots who think they know more than doctors becuase they watched a YouTube video or people who think they know more about 5G than scientists because they watched YouTube. Urghh

There is no point in talking to these people its actually really scary they think like this!,that woman who seems to be the ringleader in all of this is a bit mad in the head and thats putting it mildly....

mooseknunkle

mooseknunkle wrote: »

There is no point in talking to these people its actually really scary they think like this!,that woman who seems to be the ringleader in all of this is a bit mad in the head and thats putting it mildly....

Yup.... I get into it a bit with her and I realized that there is 100% no way of changing her mind. She is just a nut job and thinks these evil companies are out to give her cancer. She has nothing to backup her claims at all and is just talking absolute nonsense. 5G will make people homeless :rolleyes:

alta stare

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Have a look at the comments on Wlr's facebook about this,one woman said its going to cause more homelessness because people will have to move out of their homes due to the radiation :eek:

Really? I mean that is more scary than funny. Some people are on a different planet. Absolute space cadets.

Aceso

Saw this up in Tramore recently:pac:

friendlyfun

alta stare wrote: »

Really? I mean that is more scary than funny. Some people are on a different planet. Absolute space cadets.

Saw the same comment. Could not believe ny eyes with the absurdity of the line of reasoning

lertsnim

MMDS was going to kill us all 30 years ago, now this. People wearing tun foil hats who know more than everyone else.

Forever21

Just wish they’d hurry up & all mobile providers roll out 5g along with 1gb broadbands as I’m fed up of the lads on school & college holidays shouting at each other about broadband being slow as it’s affecting their gaming. The sooner it’s being rolled out the better, I might be allowed to stream Netflix when they’re gaming.

Wanderer78

Forever21 wrote: »

Just wish they’d hurry up & all mobile providers roll out 5g along with 1gb broadbands as I’m fed up of the lads on school & college holidays shouting at each other about broadband being slow as it’s affecting their gaming. The sooner it’s being rolled out the better, I might be allowed to stream Netflix when they’re gaming.

Can't fault Virgins current speed offerings, impressive download speeds, I'm aware some providers still have poor service in some parts of the town

Deisekickboxing

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Oh please - if that was true then every tree in every town and City would be cut down.

That are.....

Cabaal

lertsnim wrote: »

MMDS was going to kill us all 30 years ago, now this. People wearing tun foil hats who know more than everyone else.

Don't forget GSM!!!

GSM was the big scare years back, now the new scare is 5G.
I find it more then a little amusing that these same people are happy to post via their 3G/4G device and happy to keep the device on their person practically 24/7.

alta stare

Cabaal wrote: »

Don't forget GSM!!!

GSM was the big scare years back, now the new scare is 5G.
I find it more then a little amusing that these same people are happy to post via their 3G/4G device and happy to keep the device on their person practically 24/7.

And i bet a sizable proportion of those also sleep with their phones on with the data and wifi buzzing away right beside their head when in bed.

LenWoods

5G can be used to create a 3D map of your house inside and out by measuring bounce back rays;
I dont think a leaf is going to stop it; if it does I'm going to grow ivy on all external walls instead of protesting against the technology