Local Election Season

McLoughlin

That time has come again people you have never heard of before or haven't seen in around five years are knocking on your door when you are just about to sit down to your dinner and watch Emmerdale.

Local Election season has begun.

The County is now 6 areas with Rosslare (5 seats) and Kilmuckridge (4 seats) addded to Wexford (7 seats), New Ross (6 seats), Gorey (6 seats) and Enniscorthy (6 seats).


I don't know much outside Wexford apart from Jackser in Enniscorthy promising Tesco and Pennys if elected. Information I hope is accurate but any mistakes just point them out. Homelssness and Mental Health seem to be the "buzz words" from allot of candidates I've encountered so far

Wexford 7 Seats

• FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
• FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
• Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
• Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
• PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
• Aontú - Elaine Cole
• Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
• Indp. - Leonard Kelly

Gorey 6 Seats

• FF - Cllr. Malcolm Byrne, Joe Sullivan
• FG - Cllr. Anthony Donohoe, Elaine O’Malley Clarke, Diarmuid Devereux
• Lab - Cllr. Robert Ireton
• SF - Cllr. Fionntán O Súilleabháin
• Indp - Jimmy Fleming

Kilmuckridge 4 Seats

• FF - Cllr. Pip Breen, Cllr. Willie Kavanagh
• FG - Cllr. Oliver Walsh, Edel Gahan
• SF - Colette Nolan
• Ren - Peter Mernagh
• Indp - Cllr. Mary Farrell

New Ross 6 Seats

• FF - Cllr. Michael Sheehan, Cllr. Michael Whelan, Cllr. John Fleming
• FG - Cllr. Willie Fitzharris, Brídín Murphy
• Lab - Bridín Moloney
• SF - Cllr. Marie Doyle
• Indp - Cllr. Anthony Connick
• Indp - John Dwyer
• Indp - Pat Barden
• Indp - Aidan Quigley

Enniscorthy 6 Seats

• FF - Cllr. Keith Doyle, Cllr. Barbara Anne Murphy, Aidan Browne
• FG - Cllr. Paddy Kavanagh, Cllr. Kathleen Codd Nolan, Cathal Byrne
• SF - Cllr. Johnny Mythen
• REN - Gerald O’Donoghue
• Indp - Cllr. John O’Rourke
• Indp - Annette Moran
• Indp - Jackser Owens

Rosslare 5 Seats

• FF - Cllr. Lisa McDonald, Michael Wallace
• FG - Cllr. Jim Moore, Cllr. Frank Staples, Paul Codd
• SF - Cllr. Mick Roche
• Aontú - Jim Codd
• Indp - Cllr. Ger Carty,
• Indp -Jane Johnstone

Decoda

Kilmore has been renamed Rosslare Electoral Area

https://www.wexfordcoco.ie/council-and-democracy/revised-electoral-areas-2018

Marhay70

Talk about Hobson's choice.

Eggs For Dinner

Had to Google Aontu

Not for me, thanks

McLoughlin

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

Had to Google Aontu

Not for me, thanks

Christian Anti Abortion Republicans is how the Wexford pair are calling themselves. I can't see them doing that well.

Cantona's Collars

McLoughlin wrote: »

Christian Anti Abortion Republicans is how the Wexford pair are calling themselves. I can't see them doing that well.

They were going around the towns in the county last year with placards of aborted foetuses in the presence of impressionable kids.
I think only their own will vote for any of their candidates.
Remember the good old days of promising speed bumps,they can't do that now due to the detrimental effect they have on vehicles and especially anyone unfortunate enough to be in the back of an ambulance as it tries to negotiate them.

redfacedbear

I'm in the new Rosslare area - slim pickings!

man98

redfacedbear wrote: »

I'm in the new Rosslare area - slim pickings!

I pity the people of Rosslare greatly - it looks like it's the leftovers of the mediocre politicians in the Wexford and New Ross wards.

I'm in the Wexford ward, and looking at the names I know which local reps work hard day in day out for the town. I'm not sure I'd let myself go beyond a 4th preference, given the pitiful performance of our incumbents.

The way I see Wexford, the only dead certs are George Lawlor and Tom Forde. Lawlor has topped the poll before and has been working constantly around the district, and Forde seems like a genuine enough person, who will have the Sinn Féin vote behind him.
There will be a Fine Gael candidate elected and a Fianna Fáil candidate elected. With Fine Gael I suspect Hegarty is their strongest candidate, but with FF it's a tossup.
Beyond that, I think that Joe Ryan will win a seat - he seems to be doing a fair amount of work in the area and his record before on the council will stand to him.

For the last 2 seats it will be a fight between FF and FG's second strongest candidates, and between Leonard Kelly and Davy Hynes.

A surprise performance by Tony Walsh could threaten to take a seat, but I don't feel like he has the profile to be a contender, and that a lot has changed since 2014. Maura Bell, if Labour transfers work out, could be in with a chance of winning a seat - remembering that Labour had 5/12 seats on the Borough Council in 2004 - bit I don't think it's very likely to happen but there is usually a shock winner and I don't see anyone else with the machine to make it happen behind them.

Marhay70

I despair when I look at the line up for the Gorey area. Looks like I'll only be casting the one vote as the quality overall, is dire.

Duffryman

And conversely, I look at the Gorey list and wish I could vote there.

We're a mile and a half from Ferns, so you'd expect we'd fall in either the Enniscorthy or Gorey district. But bizarrely, the new Kilmuckridge area comes right up to our townsland and a few neighbouring ones whose postal addresses are all Ferns too. We’re all in that new area despite having next to no ‘natural’ links with the vast majority of it. Part of the change is that I’ll now have to go four miles out of my way to Boolavogue to vote, instead of a mile and a half to Ferns where I’ve always previously just been able to drop in to vote while dropping the young lad to school, or whatever.

Similarly, Ballycanew is in the new Kilmuckridge area too, where you’d expect it to be in Gorey. And maybe most bizarrely of all, Oylegate is also in it, when you’d think that either Enniscorthy or Wexford would make much more sense.

Presume it’s all to do with needing a certain population to merit four seats, but overall, looks to me like too much of an artificial creation and I really don’t see the point of it.

But back to the first point….I know most of the Gorey candidates and enough about the Enniscorthy ones to know who I’d vote for there too, but the Kilmuckridge area ones are strangers to me. Honestly no idea which way to vote.

Marhay70

Duffryman wrote: »

And conversely, I look at the Gorey list and wish I could vote there.

We're a mile and a half from Ferns, so you'd expect we'd fall in either the Enniscorthy or Gorey district. But bizarrely, the new Kilmuckridge area comes right up to our townsland and a few neighbouring ones whose postal addresses are all Ferns too. We’re all in that new area despite having next to no ‘natural’ links with the vast majority of it. Part of the change is that I’ll now have to go four miles out of my way to Boolavogue to vote, instead of a mile and a half to Ferns where I’ve always previously just been able to drop in to vote while dropping the young lad to school, or whatever.

Similarly, Ballycanew is in the new Kilmuckridge area too, where you’d expect it to be in Gorey. And maybe most bizarrely of all, Oylegate is also in it, when you’d think that either Enniscorthy or Wexford would make much more sense.

Presume it’s all to do with needing a certain population to merit four seats, but overall, looks to me like too much of an artificial creation and I really don’t see the point of it.

But back to the first point….I know most of the Gorey candidates and enough about the Enniscorthy ones to know who I’d vote for there too, but the Kilmuckridge area ones are strangers to me. Honestly no idea which way to vote.

Well I'm only too familiar with the line up for the Gorey area which is why it is so depressing.

gmurphy70

Man really poor candidates but doesn’t surprise when you see the performance of our TD’s who are probably one of the worst set of so called politicians in the land. Why would people continue to vote for Labour is beyond me,they completely shafted the working man when in Government. I see the same names across the board, career politicians who we only see once every 5 years, once elected it’s back to the gravy train. Willie Kavanagh, Pip Breen,M Sheehan, John Fleming,W Fitzharris,Michael Whelan,Oliver Walshe,George Lawler. It’s time we move these lifelong career politicians on now,they have zero to offer and only looking for the handy money. It’s time we start looking at the younger guys to hopefully bring about much needed change from the grassroots of local councils.like Malcolm Byrne but he Could be lost to Europe. Fine Gael are too long in power as well,Varadkar couldn’t care less about people outside of the M50, he cares about his image and spends tax money on his spin unit and always available for the photo opp. Not sure who to vote for yet but it won’t be someone that’s in the council for years,keep voting the same tired lot and we get the same.We need young fresh Cllrs with fresh ideas and I would urge everyone to do the same.

Eggs For Dinner

gmurphy70 wrote: »

Not sure who to vote for yet but it won’t be someone that’s in the council for years,keep voting the same tired lot and we get the same.We need young fresh Cllrs with fresh ideas and I would urge everyone to do the same.

Young fresh Councillors very quickly turn in to the same tired lot, as you put it. Politics is for self-serving individuals, despite the rhetoric. It's the circle of life and has been thus for decades

Marhay70

gmurphy70 wrote: »

Man really poor candidates but doesn’t surprise when you see the performance of our TD’s who are probably one of the worst set of so called politicians in the land. Why would people continue to vote for Labour is beyond me,they completely shafted the working man when in Government. I see the same names across the board, career politicians who we only see once every 5 years, once elected it’s back to the gravy train. Willie Kavanagh, Pip Breen,M Sheehan, John Fleming,W Fitzharris,Michael Whelan,Oliver Walshe,George Lawler. It’s time we move these lifelong career politicians on now,they have zero to offer and only looking for the handy money. It’s time we start looking at the younger guys to hopefully bring about much needed change from the grassroots of local councils.like Malcolm Byrne but he Could be lost to Europe. Fine Gael are too long in power as well,Varadkar couldn’t care less about people outside of the M50, he cares about his image and spends tax money on his spin unit and always available for the photo opp. Not sure who to vote for yet but it won’t be someone that’s in the council for years,keep voting the same tired lot and we get the same.We need young fresh Cllrs with fresh ideas and I would urge everyone to do the same.

This is exactly my point. I look at the list of candidates for the Gorey area and I see more of the same that we have had for the past five years who have done SFA in the area. As I won't vote for any of FF,FG Lab or SF, I am left with only the option of af the independent, Fleming, who was once a SF councillor, then turned coat to go FF, presumably with an eye on the Dáil, that leaves me disenfranchised.
We need new blood in the area, we need to get away from Labour and the Civil War parties who have ruined the country and run it only for themselves and vested interests.

Big Vern

Just a quick question;
Im in Wexford Town - so will i only be able to vote for the following:

Wexford 7 Seats
FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
Aontú - Elaine Cole
Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
Indp. - Leonard Kelly


Thought sure i seen a few Cllr. Ger Carty posters in town.

McLoughlin

Big Vern wrote: »

Just a quick question;
Im in Wexford Town - so will i only be able to vote for the following:

Wexford 7 Seats
FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
Aontú - Elaine Cole
Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
Indp. - Leonard Kelly


Thought sure i seen a few Cllr. Ger Carty posters in town.

Yes those 13 are Wexford Town not a great selection but that is just a personal opinion.

Ger Carty has put up posters in a district area that he can't be voted in which makes no sense

Big Vern

McLoughlin wrote: »

Yes those 13 are Wexford Town not a great selection but that is just a personal opinion.

Ger Carty has put up posters in a district area that he can't be voted in which makes no sense

Its a terrible selection! I probably seen some Ger Carty posters on the way out of town, Rosslare road.

The only good thing about this is i wont have Lisa McDonald knocking on my door!

McLoughlin

Big Vern wrote: »

Its a terrible selection! I probably seen some Ger Carty posters on the way out of town, Rosslare road.

The only good thing about this is i wont have Lisa McDonald knocking on my door!

Leonard Kelly probably will be my number 1 after that its a hard selection. Lisa McDonald has allot of work to do as she will loose her town support.

Big Vern

McLoughlin wrote: »

Leonard Kelly probably will be my number 1 after that its a hard selection. Lisa McDonald has allot of work to do as she will loose her town support.

Will definitely give Leonard a vote, he has some good ideas on mental health and giving young people a voice. Some good practical achievable ideas, not the general we need more services rhetoric some of the others have.

Big Vern

I seen a Ger Carty poster outside Wexford Hospital this morning, he is obviously trying to get people form outside the town who come in and out of the hospital.

But could be a bit confusing for people who could only realise on polling day that they cant vote for him!

Corvo

Big Vern wrote: »

Just a quick question;
Im in Wexford Town - so will i only be able to vote for the following:

Wexford 7 Seats
FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
Aontú - Elaine Cole
Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
Indp. - Leonard Kelly


Thought sure i seen a few Cllr. Ger Carty posters in town.

Christ, I wouldn't even know where to start here. I like Forde, but can't abide Sinn Fein. Perhaps Leonard Kelly. After that, I'd rather pull my own nails out.

McLoughlin

At times Tom Forde talks sense and does good work but then he starts with the Shinner Mumbo Jumbo 32 county socialist republic yadda yadda and I'm checking out with a no thanks.

Big Vern

McLoughlin wrote: »

At times Tom Forde talks sense and does good work but then he starts with the Shinner Mumbo Jumbo 32 county socialist republic yadda yadda and I'm checking out with a no thanks.

Do they still go on about that? I thought SF had dropped that altogether.

McLoughlin

Big Vern wrote: »

Do they still go on about that? I thought SF had dropped that altogether.

Its been ramped up recently with all the Brexit talk and Forde has been getting his name in the papers allot apparently he spent 8 grand of his own cash to fix a footpath. He seems to be building quite a profile but will it turn into enough votes for him ?

Duffryman

McLoughlin wrote: »

apparently he spent 8 grand of his own cash to fix a footpath.

Really???

man98

McLoughlin wrote: »

Its been ramped up recently with all the Brexit talk and Forde has been getting his name in the papers allot apparently he spent 8 grand of his own cash to fix a footpath. He seems to be building quite a profile but will it turn into enough votes for him ?

It wasn't his own money, it's council money that each councillor is allowed allocate to infrastructure projects in the town. It is, however, quite generous.
Forde is doing a good job overall as councillor and I can see him being comfortably reelected.

vicwatson

man98 wrote: »

It wasn't his own money, it's councilTAXPAYERS money that each councillor is allowed allocate to infrastructure projects in the town. It is, however, quite generous.
Forde is doing a good job overall as councillor and I can see him being comfortably reelected.

FYP

Duffryman

Whether you want to see it as Council money or taxpayers' money, I think the important thing to note is that it didn't actually come from his own personal pocket.

Just goes to show how things can get misrepresented....

Aska

Apart from the whole family tradition crap that goes on here (and other counties, another Healy-Rae running in locals) and our own Oliver Walsh, Paul Codd, Browne etc...

How long can they actually serve for if continued re-election of course, Jackser seems to be around forever, surely a time limit on these guys as in the number of years allowed to serve would keep the whole thing fresh?

McLoughlin

Aska wrote: »

Apart from the whole family tradition crap that goes on here (and other counties, another Healy-Rae running in locals) and our own Oliver Walsh, Paul Codd, Browne etc...

How long can they actually serve for if continued re-election of course, Jackser seems to be around forever, surely a time limit on these guys as in the number of years allowed to serve would keep the whole thing fresh?

I don't think there is a time limit and I can't see that ever changing because they would be voting themselves out of a job.

RTE have an updated candidates list with a few new runners including one in Wexford District Mícheál Ó Drisceol who ever he is

brilou23

Big Vern wrote: »

I seen a Ger Carty poster outside Wexford Hospital this morning, he is obviously trying to get people form outside the town who come in and out of the hospital.

But could be a bit confusing for people who could only realise on polling day that they cant vote for him!

He works in the hospital

kneemos

Somebody doesn't like Aontu.

https://wexfordtoday.com/2019/05/10/hate-messages-scrawled-on-election-posters/

Don't blame them.

Marhay70

kneemos wrote: »

Somebody doesn't like Aontu.

https://wexfordtoday.com/2019/05/10/hate-messages-scrawled-on-election-posters/

Don't blame them.

I wouldn't have much time for Aontu or their position on anything but there is no need for this type of thing. If you don't like a candidate or their position on anything, then don't give them a preference on the ballot paper.

vicwatson

kneemos wrote: »

Somebody doesn't like Aontu.

https://wexfordtoday.com/2019/05/10/hate-messages-scrawled-on-election-posters/

Don't blame them.

It was probably "Labour" that did it

man98

vicwatson wrote: »

It was probably "Labour" that did it

I think Labour of all parties know what it's like to have posters torn down, burned, or defaced. Anyone with a slight amount of cop on would respect another party's posters regardless of their social views. I've noticed similar defacement across the country of most party's posters, absolutely no excuse for it and it only empowers the candidate further.

Duffry Goat

McLoughlin

All i've heard from Jackser is "We need Pennys and a cinema in Enniscorthy"

Big Vern

Drove through Enniscorthy yesterday and seen a poster for a Keith Doyle and something about giving back €44,000. Any ideas whats that about?

St Senan

Big Vern wrote: »

Drove through Enniscorthy yesterday and seen a poster for a Keith Doyle and something about giving back €44,000. Any ideas whats that about?

donating his Co. Council Chairman's allowance to Enniscorthy Sports Hub facility in Cherry Orchard.

https://www.cllrkeithdoyle.com/articles?fbclid=IwAR2zSy6LTUkxDCZi4JL-ruLulLlK8_a9NJt4v7bjHsGvakN1NGAb2RKr0LI

Duffryman

He says he doesn't claim the expenses that Councillors are entitled to:

https://www.cllrkeithdoyle.com/meet-keith

Duffryman

Looks like Navarre posted at exactly the same time as me.

Also looks now like it might not be the case that he never accepts anything in expenses – ‘just’ that he gave back the €30,000 chairman’s allowance, a €6,000 figure some other time, and presumably some other few bits and pieces to make it up to €44,000.

Still more than most others have done, though…

Del.Monte

So, local election day is upon us once again - what way will you vote?

Me, I'm a natural Green Party voter but they are so useless down here that they can't even muster a candidate - unless I'm missing something? Anyway, after that knave Ciaran Cuffe backed the closure of the Rosslare Strand/Waterford rail link it will be a long time before they get my vote again.

This time my No.1. and only vote, will be going to Annette Byrne-Moran (the florist on Court Street) who I know and is a decent, committed individual - we might be on different ends of the political spectrum but she stands head and shoulders above the other same old chancers standing for Wexford Co.Council.

As for the divorce issue - no affect on me = no vote.

EU election = spoil my vote as I always have done since my first opportunity back in the early 1980s. Anybody else got any opinions?

Eggs For Dinner

Del.Monte wrote: »

As for the divorce issue - no affect on me = no vote.

If it doesn't affect you, help those who it will. Vote YES

Del.Monte

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

If it doesn't affect you, help those who it will. Vote YES

Nope, the present situation seems okay to me .

Eggs For Dinner

Del.Monte wrote: »

Nope, the present situation seems okay to me .

That's fine, it's the point you made that it didn't affect you that I was commenting on

Big Vern

Del.Monte wrote: »

EU election = spoil my vote as I always have done since my first opportunity back in the early 1980s. Anybody else got any opinions?

Curious as to why you spoil your vote?

McLoughlin

Wexford LEA I'm voting Leonard Kelly fresh blood fresh ideas.

Del.Monte

Big Vern wrote: »

Curious as to why you spoil your vote?

I'm not a fan of the Common Market/EEC/EU or any other body that keeps changing its name - Calder Hall/Windscale/Sellafield....I don't favour uncontrolled movement of people within the EU, an EU Superstate or a European Army - so, who could I vote for?

The reasons for the foundation of the Common Market in the interests of promoting peace and ensuring there would be no more European wars were good, but the lunatic expansion that has take place since and the uncontrolled immigration that has been allowed will turn the thing on its head. You did ask.

Marhay70

Del.Monte wrote: »

I'm not a fan of the Common Market/EEC/EU or any other body that keeps changing its name - Calder Hall/Windscale/Sellafield....I don't favour uncontrolled movement of people within the EU, an EU Superstate or a European Army - so, who could I vote for?

The reasons for the foundation of the Common Market in the interests of promoting peace and ensuring there would be no more European wars were good, but the lunatic expansion that has take place since and the uncontrolled immigration that has been allowed will turn the thing on its head. You did ask.

Agree with a lot of what you say but I stll think that the way to change it is to send people to the European Parliament who have similar views and this means not voting for FF/FG/ Labour /Greens.
I voted to join the EEC in 1972 because it was sold as a chance to join a huge trading block. There were no arguments against having free access to such a market and to be fair, Ireland has gained many benefits from joining.
I have however, voted no in every European referendum since because anybody with half a brain could see that they were designed to centralise the political system in Europe. Ireland is not an independent nation any more but a satellite state, the events of 2007-2012 are evidence of this and of the political treachery of the governments of that time.
However we're in it now and totally dependent upon it, so all we can do is try and influence decisions in the European institutions, the alternative is just unimaginable.
Immigration to Ireland is, as you say, out of control due to our lax border controls and to a legal system which allows virtually unlimited appeals against deportation, paid for by the hard pressed taxpayer and encouraged by lawyers eager to make a fast buck and if all this fails the old human rights card is played. ( Google Pamela Izevbacki)
The vast majority of "asylum seekers" in this country are from countries in sub Saharan Africa and from Asia, not from Syria or Yemen as they woud have us believe, and most of these are here illegally, as there are no direct transport links to these countries and a Visa would, in any case, be required. They must, in that case, have come here through a third country, why then didn't they seek asylum there?
So, in summary, the EU has become a behemoth and influence is unequally distributed to the largest. most powerful members and those powerful member governments, like our own, are hugely influenced by commercial and corporate interests but recently it has been shown how people power can be brought to bear on even the most powerful of these, so why give up what little bit of influence you might have by not voting?

brilou23

Any word on local elections yet.

McLoughlin

brilou23 wrote: »

Any word on local elections yet.

It looks like Sinn Fein have taken a hammering in Gorey, Rosslare, Kilmuckridge and Enniscorthy areas they may loose some seats and a strong rise in support in Fianna Fail so far.

Nothing confirmed so far though still allot of counting going on.