Poverty paddy spec Kona EV

the culture of deference

Looking at buying new Kona ev

The car drives well but is missing loads compared to UK
(uk premium se version has)


Smart Cruise Control with Stop & Go (SCC w/ S&G)

Parking system

Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) with pedestrian detection

Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)

Lane Following Assist (LFA)

Lane Keeping Assist (LKA)

Blind Spot Detection (BSD) with lane change assist

Electric seats


The new Nissan Leaf coming in June has every conceivable extra, more power and almost equal range.

the e golf and ioniq do not have the range i need, I can get an almost new tesla 3 from USA for 37k landed, (not incl vat vrt other possible taxes)

Leonidas BL

These new MEB Volkswagen/SEAT's coming out next year should be good. I think they do 500km.

biko

So don't buy it?

darrenheaphy

I’m considering the same; to my mind it’s either the Leaf 2; Kona EV or Kia e-niro. Very difficult to get clear info on Irish specs, why would they be different to the UK?

Stoner

I found it useful to have that pointed out TBH.

A lot of those things are safety features.

Some of these things are mainly Software anyway

Gumbo

the culture of deference wrote: »

Looking at buying new Kona ev

The car drives well but is missing loads compared to UK
(uk premium se version has)


Smart Cruise Control with Stop & Go (SCC w/ S&G)

Parking system

Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) with pedestrian detection

Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)

Lane Following Assist (LFA)

Lane Keeping Assist (LKA)

Blind Spot Detection (BSD) with lane change assist

Electric seats


The new Nissan Leaf coming in June has every conceivable extra, more power and almost equal range.

the e golf and ioniq do not have the range i need, I can get an almost new tesla 3 from USA for 37k landed, (not incl vat vrt other possible taxes)

Don’t buy it.
It’s well documented that we got the crap spec.

I’ll ignore your Model 3 comment as it’s simply in feasible. Cheaper to buy the Irish version when released.

slave1

the culture of deference wrote: »

The new Nissan Leaf coming in June has every conceivable extra, more power and almost equal range.

But it's essentially sold out in Europe so will be 2020 when it lands, along with the Niro and M3

Twenty Grand

Seeing as there is VRT exemptions on EVs up to €5000, does it not make sense to buy from the UK every time?

ted1

Use the same money to buy a top spec second hand car.

the culture of deference

slave1 wrote: »

But it's essentially sold out in Europe so will be 2020 when it lands, along with the Niro and M3

I can get new one in June / July

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Seeing as there is VRT exemptions on EVs up to €5000, does it not make sense to buy from the UK every time?

You do not get the seai grant for a new import

kceire wrote: »

Don’t buy it.
It’s well documented that we got the crap spec.

Even crap spec should have Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) with pedestrian detection.

kceire wrote: »

I’ll ignore your Model 3 comment as it’s simply in feasible. Cheaper to buy the Irish version when released.

I can get a 6 month model 3 now with 5,000km shipped to Ireland for 37k Euro. I have to pay import tax, VRT and VAT. This car will be 50k new and you will not get one here until 2020 at the earliest.

Eddie Air

darrenheaphy wrote:

I’m considering the same; to my mind it’s either the Leaf 2; Kona EV or Kia e-niro. Very difficult to get clear info on Irish specs, why would they be different to the UK?

AFAIK Hyundai source the Kona for the Irish market from Korea, the UK cars are built in the Czech Republic due to the MPH dashboard.

spyderski

the culture of deference wrote: »

I can get a 6 month LEFT HAND DRIVE model 3 now with 5,000km shipped to Ireland for 37k Euro. I have to pay import tax, VRT and VAT. This car will be 50k new and you will not get one here until 2020 at the earliest.

FYP

drunkmonkey

ted1 wrote: »

Use the same money to buy a top spec second hand car.

That's gone straight over their heads.

the culture of deference

I can get a 6 month model 3 now with 5,000km shipped to Ireland for 37k Euro. I have to pay import tax, VRT and VAT. This car will be 50k new and you will not get one here until 2020 at the earliest.

I have no intention of trying to do this.

I rang a few UK Hyundai dealers today, and they only have 1 EV kona demo model each. The only way to order the high spec UK car is to place it directly with Hyundai and then eventually it will be delivered to the dealer you select. 12 month waiting time approx.

Gumbo

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Seeing as there is VRT exemptions on EVs up to €5000, does it not make sense to buy from the UK every time?

I’ve done that with all my EV’s up to now but I’ve always bought second hand.

If you buy new then the exemption realistically ends at about the 35k euro mark so you’d have a bit of vrt and also VAT so better to buy here most of the time.

Gumbo

the culture of deference wrote: »

I can get a 6 month model 3 now with 5,000km shipped to Ireland for 37k Euro. I have to pay import tax, VRT and VAT. This car will be 50k new and you will not get one here until 2020 at the earliest.

Can you link to that sale ad please.

Unless your talking about a left hand drive version in the USA?
How much is shipping from there?
Then add VAT.

Have you do the sums?
I suspect your figures are on the low side for how much it would actually cost to get it here.

the culture of deference

as i said in post 14

I have no intention of trying to do this.

Twenty Grand

kceire wrote: »

I’ve done that with all my EV’s up to now but I’ve always bought second hand.

If you buy new then the exemption realistically ends at about the 35k euro mark so you’d have a bit of vrt and also VAT so better to buy here most of the time.

Ah yes, I forgot about that.

I was looking at electric motorbikes as they VRT exempt.

Gumbo

the culture of deference wrote: »

as i said in post 14

I have no intention of trying to do this.

Most likely Because it can’t be done.

ELM327

kceire wrote: »

Can you link to that sale ad please.

Unless your talking about a left hand drive version in the USA?
How much is shipping from there?
Then add VAT.

Have you do the sums?
I suspect your figures are on the low side for how much it would actually cost to get it here.

US model 3 come with US proprietary tesla socket.
No chademo adapter, no ccs adapter, no fast charging

He will have to buy a j1772 adapter and charge at 7kW max on type 1.


What a silly idea. That's the stupidest mooted purchase I've ever seen here.


Agree that the irish Kona is a joke though

zilog_jones

Eddie Air wrote: »

AFAIK Hyundai source the Kona for the Irish market from Korea, the UK cars are built in the Czech Republic due to the MPH dashboard.

That sounds hard to believe they've gone through the effort of being able to assemble RHD models there, but without the ability to source and fit metric RHD instrument clusters, which is extremely trivial in comparison.

Soarer

Here's an SE for sale in the UK.

Kona SE

liamog

zilog_jones wrote: »

That sounds hard to believe they've gone through the effort of being able to assemble RHD models there, but without the ability to source and fit metric RHD instrument clusters, which is extremely trivial in comparison.

Doesn't the Kona Electric also have a digital instrument cluster

ELM327

liamog wrote: »

Doesn't the Kona Electric also have a digital instrument cluster

Yes but, similar to the Ioniq, it is not a simple process to change from MPH to km/h or vice versa. Try change your ioniq and it won't change fully to the UK display.

jusmeig

the culture of deference wrote: »

the e golf and ioniq do not have the range i need, I can get an almost new tesla 3 from USA for 37k landed, (not incl vat vrt other possible taxes)

How would you get a Model 3 from the US for anywhere close to 37k?

bk

ELM327 wrote: »

Yes but, similar to the Ioniq, it is not a simple process to change from MPH to km/h or vice versa. Try change your ioniq and it won't change fully to the UK display.

Jeez, how poor the software engineering is at these traditional car companies!

liamog

ELM327 wrote: »

Yes but, similar to the Ioniq, it is not a simple process to change from MPH to km/h or vice versa. Try change your ioniq and it won't change fully to the UK display.

It's like to trying to change the CSC (Customer Service Code) on a Samsung phone that manages regional settings and pre-installed apps. It can't be done by the user, it requires a reflash of the firmware.

Hyundai will have a stage during manufacture where they load the firmware on to the hardware.
That's not going to be a step that requires a completly different factory.