What battery fencer to get?

blue5000

The battery fencer has died so I'm looking for a replacement, any suggestions? Looking for something that will work off a 12v tractor battery and will provide power for about 3km of fencing.

emaherx

blue5000 wrote: »

The battery fencer has died so I'm looking for a replacement, any suggestions? Looking for something that will work off a 12v tractor battery and will provide power for about 3km of fencing.

I bought this one recently.
https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/voss-farming-set-12w-solarsystem-box-12v-green-energy-2872.html

They also have less powerful ones or it can be got without the solar panel.

Fine Day

blue5000 wrote: »

The battery fencer has died so I'm looking for a replacement, any suggestions? Looking for something that will work off a 12v tractor battery and will provide power for about 3km of fencing.

Hard to beat the Gallagher or Chetta. Have both in both mains & battery. I have worked both of a tractor battery. Solar seems to be the way to go now so maybe worth exploring.

patsy_mccabe

Bought this battery fencer online from Shockrite €63.
Tried it and a good shock from it. Time will tell if it's good value. Want to put it up near a main road and think it might walk, so don't want an expensive one.
SRB60;
https://www.shockrite.co.uk/shop/shockrite-srb60-starter-kit/

roosky

Has anyone any experience with these fencers....

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/stockshop-bx140-electric-fence-energiser-battery-powered/2033F?gclid=CjwKCAiAudD_BRBXEiwAudakX7TUNyfvA0bBdyWsTuhsPzIWEsAND5RBJQw7IerSx6OXYMwnoiykjRoChMkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Claim to do upto 18km of fence and only €120

emaherx

roosky wrote: »

Has anyone any experience with these fencers....

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/stockshop-bx140-electric-fence-energiser-battery-powered/2033F?gclid=CjwKCAiAudD_BRBXEiwAudakX7TUNyfvA0bBdyWsTuhsPzIWEsAND5RBJQw7IerSx6OXYMwnoiykjRoChMkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Claim to do upto 18km of fence and only €120

There is something wrong with the description because a 0.6J fencer will not cover anything close to that distance.

emaherx

Here is a handy guide to Joules, but even this would be without much vegetation touching the fence.

Green&Red

Theheff wrote: »

Hard to beat the Gallagher or Chetta. Have both in both mains & battery. I have worked both of a tractor battery. Solar seems to be the way to go now so maybe worth exploring.

Any recommendations for a solar one?

emaherx

Green&Red wrote: »

Any recommendations for a solar one?

I'm still using the one I linked to in the second post.

https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/voss-farming-set-12w-solarsystem-box-12v-green-energy-2872.html

It has been great, I bought a second one without the panel to run with a 100W panel that I already have pumping water. I'm considering a third for another out farm too.

Obviously you need to check your requirements with regards distance and purchase one with sufficient output.

patsy_mccabe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Bought this battery fencer online from Shockrite €63.
Tried it and a good shock from it. Time will tell if it's good value. Want to put it up near a main road and think it might walk, so don't want an expensive one.
SRB60;
https://www.shockrite.co.uk/shop/shockrite-srb60-starter-kit/

This one is working away grand too. Use it every day now in the yard. Work it off a car battery bought from a scrap yard.

emaherx

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

This one is working away grand too. Use it every day now in the yard. Work it off a car battery bought from a scrap yard.

Good value, obviously only good for a short run, interesting that the 0.6J fencer has a claimed length of 3km sounds more reasonable distance for the size. The screw fix one above is way off with it's claimed max fence run.

roosky

Thanks for reed back everyone......im buying this because i need it yesterday !!! so glad of quick reply.

Question is now do i go with the one for €52 talked about above that does 3km or the screwfix one for €120, that claims to do 18km, would it be fit to do 10 km even, its good value if it would do 10km.

josephsoap

emaherx wrote: »

I'm still using the one I linked to in the second post.

https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/voss-farming-set-12w-solarsystem-box-12v-green-energy-2872.html

It has been great, I bought a second one without the panel to run with a 100W panel that I already have pumping water. I'm considering a third for another out farm too.

Obviously you need to check your requirements with regards distance and purchase one with sufficient output.

Have solar fences now caught up with mains fences in terms of output/power?

emaherx

roosky wrote: »

Thanks for reed back everyone......im buying this because i need it yesterday !!! so glad of quick reply.

Question is now do i go with the one for €52 talked about above that does 3km or the screwfix one for €120, that claims to do 18km, would it be fit to do 10 km even, its good value if it would do 10km.

I'd sincerely doubt it.

Joules is the power that will determine how long your fence can be.

1 Joule of output energy is roughly good for 10KM (with little to no vegetation)
If it says 1 joule stored energy then it is going to be less.

emaherx

josephsoap wrote: »

Have solar fences now caught up with mains fences in terms of output/power?

Well yes as long as you compare like with like.
The solar Fence units I use are really just 12V battery fence units with separate solar panels so the panel and battery size are as important to consider as the fence unit.

roosky

I went onto the makes website and here is the data sheet for the fencer

https://www.stockshop.co.uk/Products/0057000600110002/34001

it says stored energy is 2.5 joules and pulse is upto 0.6 joules.....would that make sense???

emaherx

roosky wrote: »

I went onto the makes website and here is the data sheet for the fencer

https://www.stockshop.co.uk/Products/0057000600110002/34001

it says stored energy is 2.5 joules and pulse is upto 0.6 joules.....would that make sense???

output energy is what is important.

https://www.speedrite.com/en/help-faqs/what-difference-between-stored-joules-energy-and-output-joules-energy

What is the difference between Stored Joules (energy) and Output Joules (energy)? Stored Joules relates to the energy (power) stored inside the energizer. Output Joules relates to how much energy (power) can travel from your energizer onto your fence line, powering your electric fence

check that both products are listing output joules and not stored joules to compare.



edit:
the difference between 2.5 stored Joules and 0.6 output is unusually big, something just dose not add up in the specs of the Wolsey Unit on screwfix.
Some manufactures report stored joules to make their unit sound more powerful but there is usually only a small difference. I can't see how a unit would loose so much energy between stored energy and output????

patsy_mccabe

To be scientific about it, Joules is a unit of Work. Watts is a unit of power.

One Watt = one Joule of work done every second.

hopeso

roosky wrote: »

Has anyone any experience with these fencers....

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/stockshop-bx140-electric-fence-energiser-battery-powered/2033F?gclid=CjwKCAiAudD_BRBXEiwAudakX7TUNyfvA0bBdyWsTuhsPzIWEsAND5RBJQw7IerSx6OXYMwnoiykjRoChMkQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Claim to do upto 18km of fence and only €120

I have one of them here for years. Worked off a car battery on an out farm. It has a good shock from it, and it's been faultless. I can't comment on what length of fence it will power though. Probably doing less than 2km here.

emaherx

roosky wrote: »

I went onto the makes website and here is the data sheet for the fencer

https://www.stockshop.co.uk/Products/0057000600110002/34001

it says stored energy is 2.5 joules and pulse is upto 0.6 joules.....would that make sense???

This is my 12v fencer but without the solar panel/enclosure.

https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/voss-farming-greenenergy-dual-power-12v-mains-battery-energiser-mains-adapter-not-included.html

It says 1.5 output Joules and 2.0 stored energy joules and covers 15km of fence.
.
It's £109 pounds, but no idea what import duties would add.

I'd recommend the unit and have 2 of them on 2 different 20acre blocks.

The Wolsey unit is probably of fine quality but something is just not right about the spec being advertised.

roosky

In fairness to the one for €52 above it says 3km of polly wire and up to 10 km of galvanised wire with no vegetation...... so you can see how specs could be talked up

emaherx

roosky wrote: »

In fairness to the one for €52 above it says 3km of polly wire and up to 10 km of galvanised wire with no vegetation...... so you can see how specs could be talked up

I agree,
There's tested in a lab condition.
Just erected with all new fence wire conditions
And up years and never had vegetation cut back
And everything in between.


But 18km from 0.6 Joules is a hell of a talking up.

But if it has 2.5 stored joules then you'd expect it's output to be at least 2 joules which would make sense for 18 / 20ish km

It would be a very inefficient device to loose so much energy between storing and delivery so I can only assume some of the advertised numbers are very wrong.

roosky

Hi all, went with the shockrite one and I’m delighted with it, putting out 5k volts off a “dead” car battery.....my question now is how do I mind the batter out in the wet should it be covered/kept out of the wet or does it matter ??

Thanks

Bumpkins

roosky wrote: »

Hi all, went with the shockrite one and I’m delighted with it, putting out 5k volts off a “dead” car battery.....my question now is how do I mind the batter out in the wet should it be covered/kept out of the wet or does it matter ??

Thanks

It doesn't matter about the battery getting wet, but it's best to keep it in the shade to stop the battery getting hot in the direct sunlight

n1st

I'm looking for a battery electric fence to cover about 1km.

I'm hoping to spend under 200 euro.

Any recommendations?

I'll probably book the battery up to a solar panel later. I think the ones that have solar built in are over priced right now.

Sugarbowl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752941#Comment_121752941

I bought a solar fencer last year. Think about 200e. Very happy with it. Ran away all summer. Only had to charge it once and that was a few weeks ago. Think the brand was Shockrite… saw the recommendation on this. Best purchase I made in a while. Don’t bother with the battery fenders.

Fine Day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752941#Comment_121752941

I bought a solar Lacme last summer for Abit of land over the road. Great bang of it. I am very impressed with it. I think by the time I included the battery it was about €350 tho. It's covering about 13 aces split into 4 division. It would do more as I have it throttled back.

n1st

I just purchased this one Shockrite. 200 euro. 1 to 2 km.

https://wildatlanticfencing.ie/product/shockrite-srs05/

https://wildatlanticfencing.ie/product/shockrite-srs05/