Were The Ramones the most overrated band of all time?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Never had a hit, all their songs sound the same, 3 chord bull****.

Ironically all they had was their image, lank hair and leather jackets.

Hoboo

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Never had a hit, all their songs sound the same, 3 chord bull****.

Ironically all they had was their image, lank hair and leather jackets.

Steps had multiple hits. Oasis used the same 3 chords. All U2 songs sound the same.

Fail to see any irony in having an image, hair or clothes.

Ian OB

No. They were not.

JohnnyFlash

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Never had a hit, all their songs sound the same, 3 chord bull****.

Ironically all they had was their image, lank hair and leather jackets.

You still sipping on the sherry, dude?

DEFTLEFTHAND

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

You still sipping on the sherry, dude?

Short dated lager kid.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hoboo wrote: »

Steps had multiple hits. Oasis used the same 3 chords. All U2 songs sound the same.

Fail to see any irony in having an image, hair or clothes.

Oasis and U2 had hits.

Number 1 singles and albums.

Titzon Toast

"Baby I love you" sounds the same as "Blitzkrieg bop"?

SEPT 23 1989

Great band

I would play a song but it's half nine on a Saturday morning

RWCNT

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Oasis and U2 had hits.

Number 1 singles and albums.

Is the approval of the masses what makes a great band though?

cjragoo

Never heard a Ramones song so couldn't tell ya

eviltimeban

Hoboo wrote: »

Oasis used the same 3 chords. All U2 songs sound the same.

Oasis used more than 3 chords.

All U2 songs don't sound the same. Does "Lemon" sound like "With Or Without You"? No it does not.

Not a fan of Ramones though. Ironically enough U2 are.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Titzon Toast wrote: »

"Baby I love you" sounds the same as "Blitzkrieg bop"?

Yes it does.

They would recycle their riffs, because Johnny couldn't play for sh1te.


Good live act ya in later years, but not a studio band.

GreeBo

Nah nah nana nah nah nah nana, they weren't overrated.

Titzon Toast

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Yes it does.

They would recycle their riffs, because Johnny couldn't play for sh1te.


Good live act ya in later years, but not a studio band.

I disagree, I like them. They have their place in rock history.

The J Stands for Jay

They're a t-shirt brand, not a band. Silly internet man.

The J Stands for Jay

https://youtu.be/9wZ86vlXNcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wZ86vlXNcM

Fanny Wank

Were they ever rated highly enough in the first place to warrant a discussion such as this?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Titzon Toast wrote: »

I disagree, I like them. They have their place in rock history.

Rory Gallagher, one of the greatest axmen of all time is not in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame but Johnny Ramone is?

It's ludicrous.

Punk relies on three chords. If you don't like it, try another genre.

Wibbs

Never saw the hype with them myself if I'm honest.

crustyjuggler

Did the band come before those t - shirts ?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Deleted User wrote: »

Punk relies on three chords. If you don't like it, try another genre.

Listen I like punk.



Give me The Clash , Sex pistols, the Heatbreakers any day over The Ramones.


Think of later bands also like Offspring, Green Day, Blink 182.


Good playing and songwriting.

ArchXStanton

Meh bubble gum punks, I see a few weeks ago Johnny rotten and one of the Ramones members got into a spat at an interview they both were at, both bands seemed to have a bit of a rivalry as too who started punk rock.

Iggy pop and Johnny thunders would like to have a word with them..

One_More_Mile

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Never had a hit, all their songs sound the same, 3 chord bull****.

Ironically all they had was their image, lank hair and leather jackets.

Nope

demanufactured

RWCNT wrote: »

Is the approval of the masses what makes a great band though?

Nope.

DEFTLEFTHAND

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Meh bubble gum punks, I see a few weeks ago Johnny rotten and one of the Ramones members got into a spat at an interview they both were at, both bands seemed to have a bit of a rivalry as too who started punk rock.

Iggy pop and Johnny thunders would like to have a word with them..

Saw that , Rotten was pissed and abused Marky unfairly. Ramones predated The Pistols anyway so tht SPs have no claim over it.

Rotten claims that The Kinks in their garage phase were the origins of punk. Ray and Dave Davies as the Godfathers.


I would tend to agree with him.

biko

No impact eh?
Ramones released in 1976 and people like OP are still talking about it 43 years later...

King of Kings

Ramones are pretty poor but hardky the most over rated.

I think u2 arent great dunno where the love comes from esp given that bono is a pox.

Pero_Bueno

Of course they weren't over rated, sure kids nowadays are wearing their T shirts !! they must be brilliant!

smurgen

No that's U2 or maybe primal scream

ArchXStanton

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

Of course they weren't over rated, sure kids nowadays are wearing their T shirts !! they must be brilliant!

That and Bathory, Black Flag t-shirts.... Seems to be the uniform of the hipster pretty sure I seen Ramones shirts in Penneys

nullzero

They're a band who have their t-shirts worn by people who've no idea what punk is never mind having listened to their music.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Speaking of Black Flag, Henry Rollins must be the biggest clown in the history of music.

A complete pseudo intellectual .

Gingganggooley

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

Never had a hit, all their songs sound the same, 3 chord bull****.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

Ironically all they had was their image, lank hair and leather jackets.

What they had was their "sound" and it was really, really good. This what any decent band yearns for and achieving it is more difficult than you think.

They didn't give a **** about having hits.

If you're a player, you will love them.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Gingganggooley wrote: »

What they had was their "sound" and it was really, really good. This what any decent band yearns for and achieving it is more difficult than you think.

They didn't give a **** about having hits.

If you're a player, you will love them.

They did care about having hits, Joey and John were very bitter over Blondie going mega. They considered them an opening act in CBGBs.

The lads would have sold out in a second if they caught on in the same way.


They tried it with Phil Spector but the songs just weren't there.

fattymuatty

I grew up with punk playing at home all the time so I will always have a soft spot for The Ramones. The Ramones, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, X-Ray Spex, Adam and the Ants always make me think back to being a kid and my old man playing them on his record player.

Harry Palmr

Ramones on Top of the Pops - due to having had a single that was in the Top 40 - peaked at No 8.

https://vimeo.com/70671946

They were great for about two minutes - handily enough

weemcd

Rubbish band.

hetuzozaho

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Speaking of Black Flag, Henry Rollins must be the biggest clown in the history of music.

Think he just had a ****ty childhood. Seems a bit messed up because of it imo.

Yamanoto

Fanny **** wrote: »

Were they ever rated highly enough in the first place to warrant a discussion such as this?

For such an apparently limited outfit, they continue to be name checked often, as an influence on many bands.

I'd consider myself quite clued in musically, but I can't name a single song or album by 'em.

is_that_so

weemcd wrote: »

Rubbish band.

And the next sentence in this essay is ...?

Whether you like them or not they had a great sound, short snappy tunes and a very big influence on punk in the seventies and in genres beyond.

hetuzozaho

And people mentioning say the Offspring and other later punk bands as being good (which i agree, i love Smash!) I guess Ramones would've been an influence on those guys and other bands. Think it's often hard to put yourself back a few decades, The Ramones are rubbish but the Offspring are great does not work for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A7I7cq72qg

steddyeddy

I was in a Ramones fan bar in Berlin. Anyone else been? Interesting place to say the least. One or two if the patrons were d1xkheads though.

hetuzozaho

This thread has me heading to this for some reason, that's my music sorted for the day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mZ0sSStW6Y

ArchXStanton

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Speaking of Black Flag, Henry Rollins must be the biggest clown in the history of music.

A complete pseudo intellectual .

I preferred them with Keith Morris on vocals, Rollins only got the job after travelling a few hours to see them play, he had to work the next day as a manager in a Haagen Daas shop and they played clocked in for him were he jumped on stage and sang along with them.

The book get in the van goes into his early days in black flag, he was a very very angry man

thebaz

is this a wind up ??

Ramones were probably the most underatted band - influenced so many bands , and hardly had any hits themselves , and hardly made any money - but I dont know a better live band or a better debut album - anyway go back to the Bieber/Westlife/Sehearan playlists - they had hits, if thats what all you want .

PinotNero

Smithers, have the rolling stones killed!

DEFTLEFTHAND

thebaz wrote: »

is this a wind up ??

Ramones were probably the most underatted band - influenced so many bands , and hardly had any hits themselves , and hardly made any money - but I dont know a better live band or a better debut album - anyway go back to the Bieber/Westlife/Sehearan playlists - they had hits, if thats what all you want .

Context and time period.

Loads of other bands in that genre did very well for themselves.


Ramones never shifted records. That's why they had to tour small venues relentlessly for 22 years.

Ferajacka

Under Rated: Yes

Over Rated: Maybe

Influencial: Hughely

Rothko

I don't see what record sales or hits have to do with anything.

thebaz

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ramones never shifted records. That's why they had to tour small venues relentlessly for 22 years.

Justin Bieber sells records - does that make him great - the Ramones struggle is one of the things that made them great - watch the documentary , as you can't see them live - and then tell me they wernt great. One of my top 3 bands of all time - it was ther get up and go that made me love music , and make it seam possible for everyone - and thats what rock nroll was supposed to be about..