Putting in new stove but carbon taxes are going up!

jay0109

Just looking for some advice or general opinions.

There is a really badly installed and unsafe free-standing stove in the house I bought 4 years ago. We don't use it as it smokes the room out of it.

So I was planning on putting in a new stove, a fake chimney breast, fireplace surround/mantlepiece, new chimney flue on the outside etc.
About €5k was the quote I got last year.

But after hearing the news this morning that a Dail working group has recommended carbon taxes rise from €20 per tonne to €80 (equiv to €10 per bag of coal the news said earlier), I am wondering if it's a bit pointless installing 'old technology' like that?

Should I just take out the old stove and leave a blank wall and find more modern means to heat the living room (which is cold for a large part of the year as the 1 long rad there isn't able to heat it up by itself).

Your thoughts please?

MagicBusDriver1

Would it be better to spend the money on insulation, new windows etc? Reduce the need for more heat?

jay0109

The large window in the room is brand new, the external facing wall is internally insulated but the room is still cold.
I was also sold on the idea of having a nice fire lit in the evenings during the winter.

Donadea Leo

jay0109 wrote: »

Just looking for some advice or general opinions.

There is a really badly installed and unsafe free-standing stove in the house I bought 4 years ago. We don't use it as it smokes the room out of it.

So I was planning on putting in a new stove, a fake chimney breast, fireplace surround/mantlepiece, new chimney flue on the outside etc.
About €5k was the quote I got last year.

But after hearing the news this morning that a Dail working group has recommended carbon taxes rise from €20 per tonne to €80 (equiv to €10 per bag of coal the news said earlier), I am wondering if it's a bit pointless installing 'old technology' like that?

Should I just take out the old stove and leave a blank wall and find more modern means to heat the living room (which is cold for a large part of the year as the 1 long rad there isn't able to heat it up by itself).

Your thoughts please?

Hmm, unless you are going to put in a heat pump, then I d imagine you are looking at carbon tax on whatever source of heat you are going to use. We have an inset stove in the sitting room, we used a 2 by 20 kg bags all winter and burned timber and those heat logs made from saw dust, which give off brilliant heat. We actually stopped using coal cause we d ean out and i didn t notice much difference, granted twas mild enough this year. We considered putting in free standing stove at one end of dining room, but need to look at our whole system to try and get it working properly, we 've underfloor heating downstairs but it never seems to be working everywhere, works fine where it does. I wouldn't be ruling out the stove by any means.

NIMAN

The move from €20 to €80 per tonne is between now and 2030 iirc.

Its not going to happen overnight.

jay0109

Donadea Leo wrote: »

Hmm, unless you are going to put in a heat pump, then I d imagine you are looking at carbon tax on whatever source of heat you are going to use.

The stove would be in addition to the gas heating we had for the rad/water.

The 2 goals from getting the stove are:
1. heat the living room and on to the hall
2. the notion of having a fire lit in the evenings/weekend

antiskeptic

jay0109 wrote: »

The stove would be in addition to the gas heating we had for the rad/water.

The 2 goals from getting the stove are:
1. heat the living room and on to the hall
2. the notion of having a fire lit in the evenings/weekend

You won't be burning a lot of fuel in a supplemental stove I wouldn't have thought.

There'd be no carbon tax on wood you buy from the local entrepreneur - indeed, there's probably no tax of any type paid on that wood

Muahahaha

antiskeptic wrote: »

You won't be burning a lot of fuel in a supplemental stove I wouldn't have thought.

There'd be no carbon tax on wood you buy from the local entrepreneur - indeed, there's probably no tax of any type paid on that wood

From Revenue

Solid Fuel Carbon Tax (SFCT) is an excise duty that applies to coal and peat supplied in Ireland on or after 1 May 2013. Wood is not liable to the tax and wood products that have no solid fuel component are not liable to SFCT.

Burning wood in a stove seems like a good solution for the OP, they get their fire and also avoid paying carbon tax

jay0109

Thanks all. From a general info viewpoint, I didn't know that wood was exempt from carbon tax