Reversed into trolley in car park. Liability?

Masala

Hi. I reversed out off of a Tesco parking space and while I was reversing I hit a trolley. I didn’t see a person leave a trolley there as they drive off and so I hit it

Where would I stand legally. I not going to make a big deal but is there a case to answer if I contacted Tesco?

Just wondering what would be the normal liability when using car parks etc.

whippet

Not really sure what you are asking ... are you asking Tesco how you can pay for the damage to the trolly?

You hit a stationary object ... your fault ... just be grateful it wasn’t a child you failed to see when you were reversing

Xcellor

It didn't just materialize and I assume if you were going slowly there isn't any damage to your car?

banie01

Are you asking if Tesco have a liability towards you?
Or you towards Tesco?

kerry37

Cant understand why people dont reverse INTO the space. Always always always easier and you're a lot more aware of surroundings at the time. Also the plus of simply driving out of it instead of blindly reversing out. A real pet hate of mine

If there is any damage done to the trolley you should of course contact Tesco and pay for it. Probably should have informed them at the time tbf.

hullaballoo

kerry37 wrote: »

Cant understand why people dont reverse INTO the space.

The boot of my car, which is where the shopping goes, is at the back. If I put the back of my car up against a wall or another car, I can't put the shopping in the boot.

This is applicable to most cars in Tesco car parks, I'd imagine.

Garibaldi?

Id say it would be difficult to damage a trolley in that situation.

kerry37

hullaballoo wrote: »

The boot of my car, which is where the shopping goes, is at the back. If I put the back of my car up against a wall or another car, I can't put the shopping in the boot.

This is applicable to most cars in Tesco car parks, I'd imagine.

Get back to car, pull slightly forward, open boot.

Thanks for explaining where the boot is. I never realised it was at the back of the car :rolleyes:

Mod; Suggest you leave humour to comedians

honda boi

kerry37 wrote: »

Get back to car, pull slightly forward, open boot.

Thanks for explaining where the boot is. I never realised it was at the back of the car :rolleyes:

I think he means how would he get the trolley to the back of the car if there's cars either side of him.

Garibaldi?

kerry37 wrote: »

Get back to car, pull slightly forward, open boot.

Thanks for explaining where the boot is. I never realised it was at the back of the car :rolleyes:

:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Masala

Sorry... should have stated that it looks like someone abandoned the trolley on other side and I reversed out and hit it. My question is ... if I damaged my car - can I claim off Tesco for the damage?? I did no damage but just wondering ....

McCrack

kerry37 wrote: »

Cant understand why people dont reverse INTO the space. Always always always easier and you're a lot more aware of surroundings at the time. Also the plus of simply driving out of it instead of blindly reversing out. A real pet hate of mine

If there is any damage done to the trolley you should of course contact Tesco and pay for it. Probably should have informed them at the time tbf.

This is correct, always reverse into a parking space rather than reverse out of a parking space

punisher5112

Tesco would have a great laugh.....

Honestly you op are liable the same as if a child or persons or other vehicles were behind you and you hit them.

Tesco takes no responsibility unless it were a staff member and the staff member hit your car with the trolley.

I wouldn't be contacting anyone about it as the person reading it may injure themselves when they fall off the chair.

banie01

Masala wrote: »

Sorry... should have stated that it looks like someone abandoned the trolley on other side and I reversed out and hit it. My question is ... if I damaged my car - can I claim off Tesco for the damage?? I did no damage but just wondering ....

You reversed without due care and attention.
It doesn't matter what was around you, you have a responsibility to be aware of hazards whilst reversing and as such any liability for a collision with a stationary object is entirely your own.

On a less serious, but more appropriate note.
Are you actually serious?
You hit something whilst reversing and want to know if it's someone else's fault?

There a words and phrases that come to mind to describe this type of "person" using them would likely get me banned however...

So let's just say for the sake of fellow road users, I hope you don't actually drive and that this is a wind up

Barr

Masala wrote: »

Sorry... should have stated that it looks like someone abandoned the trolley on other side and I reversed out and hit it. My question is ... if I damaged my car - can I claim off Tesco for the damage?? I did no damage but just wondering ....

I've heard it all now :pac::eek:

Atlantic Dawn

McCrack wrote: »

This is correct, always reverse into a parking space rather than reverse out of a parking space

And rip the side out of the cars parked either side of you with your trolley when you return to your car to load the boot.

osarusan

Either you missed a trolley left in front of your parking space when you got back into your car, or else somebody put the trolley into that position between the time you got into your car and the time you started reversing.

How do you think Tesco could be held liable for that?

Masala

banie01 wrote: »

You reversed without due care and attention.
It doesn't matter what was around you, you have a responsibility to be aware of hazards whilst reversing and as such any liability for a collision with a stationary object is entirely your own.

On a less serious, but more appropriate note.
Are you actually serious?
You hit something whilst reversing and want to know if it's someone else's fault?

There a words and phrases that come to mind to describe this type of "person" using them would likely get me banned however...

So let's just say for the sake of fellow road users, I hope you don't actually drive and that this is a wind up

..... i just answered a few questions on the internet, sat a driving test, passed first time and they gave me a license!!! I know... I have no right to be on the road!!

Marcusm

Masala wrote: »

Hi. I reversed out off of a Tesco parking space and while I was reversing I hit a trolley. I didn’t see a person leave a trolley there as they drive off and so I hit it

Where would I stand legally. I not going to make a big deal but is there a case to answer if I contacted Tesco?

Just wondering what would be the normal liability when using car parks etc.

You might bear some liability for damage to the trolley.

Marcusm

hullaballoo wrote: »

The boot of my car, which is where the shopping goes, is at the back. If I put the back of my car up against a wall or another car, I can't put the shopping in the boot.

This is applicable to most cars in Tesco car parks, I'd imagine.

It’s fairer to say that it is less convenient to place the purchased items in the boot when you have reversed in. Rarely would it be impossible. I rarely undertake additional work (like carrying bags around to the back of a car) but I only reverse park in car parks. Personally I think it should be unlawful to do anything else.

4ensic15

I can access my boot by lowering the rear seats which are accessible through the rear passenger doors. Reverse in drive, out is the only rational thing to do.

ted1

Masala wrote: »

Hi. I reversed out off of a Tesco parking space and while I was reversing I hit a trolley. I didn’t see a person leave a trolley there as they drive off and so I hit it

Where would I stand legally. I not going to make a big deal but is there a case to answer if I contacted Tesco?

Just wondering what would be the normal liability when using car parks etc.

You hit a stationery object ?

You should always reverse in to spaces. It’s far safer

4ensic15

Masala wrote: »

..... i just answered a few questions on the internet, sat a driving test, passed first time and they gave me a license!!! I know... I have no right to be on the road!!

If you don't know that a driver reversing never has the right of way, then you shouldn't be on the road. I don't care what any piece of papers says.

JimFin

You reversed into a shopping trolley and you feel Tesco should pay for it. Am I missing something here, what exact act of negligence do you think Tesco committed? How could Tesco reasonably have prevented your accident?

Take responsibility for your own actions and stop looking for others to pay for it........

tedpan

Masala wrote:

..... i just answered a few questions on the internet, sat a driving test, passed first time and they gave me a license!!! I know... I have no right to be on the road!!

Do you drive a Jeep, not sure how you didn't see a trolley behind you?

4ensic15

tedpan wrote: »

Do you drive a Jeep, not sure how you didn't see a trolley behind you?

It is quite simple, the o/p wasn't looking. Rule 1.1 of driving.

Doctors room ghost

Did you bring the trolley back to the trolley park and get the 2 euro op.thats what I’m wondering.
Must have been Rockefeller to leave the trolley and not get back the money or else they sacrificed the money in order to booby trap you

.G.

Don't agree with *always reverse into a space* some spaces are angled so as to be driven into and reversed out of. Liffey Valley for example. Yet people still go out of their way to reverse into the bloody things and make it far harder for themselves whilst doing so and then when driving out of it again!

Marcusm

.G. wrote: »

Don't agree with *always reverse into a space* some spaces are angled so as to be driven into and reversed out of. Liffey Valley for example. Yet people still go out of their way to reverse into the bloody things and make it far harder for themselves whilst doing so and then when driving out of it again!

You are absolutely correct that you need not reverse into herringbone spaces as per LV. These are the most efficient use of physical space, up to 25% more cars in the same space. However, very rare in Ireland.

Benny Biscotti

You have no comeback against Tesco. It was technically your fault. But I empathise with you, it grinds my gears seeing trolleys left abandoned in parking spaces when I go to Aldi.

People can be lazy arse holes not bothering to walk 30 metres to leave their trolley. But sure they have nobody to answer to.

Amirani

Anyone who can't competently drive/reverse into a spot, or drive/reverse out of a spot shouldn't be using car parks; should go do some practice in a quiet area.

You do whichever you deem most appropriate at the time, not follow some rule of "always reverse in" or some such.

cannotlogin

This cannot be serious surely?

You hit a trolley, a trolley that you should have seen given the fact that its about 2ft wide, 3 ft height and 3 ft long, it's not exactly a small object that is easy to miss and you have a problem with Tesco and the trolley!!!

If you contact Tesco, I hope they bill you for damages or replacement costs.

You would be better off focusing on your driving instead.

Garibaldi?

Who doesn't love to find a loose trolley that you don't have to put money in , or take back when you're finished shopping? But I always park it safely where it's unlikely to drift and cause damage.

Peregrinus

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And rip the side out of the cars parked either side of you with your trolley when you return to your car to load the boot.

You don't have to do this. You can carry your shopping bags, two by two, from the trolley at the front of the car to the boot at the back.

I get that it's inconvenient to have to do this. On the other hand, it can be inconvenient - or worse - to have to back out of your parking space with the possiblity of moving hazards, sometimes poor lines of sight and even for some motorists a poor grasp of your responsiblities in this situation.

So choose your inconvenience. But, in making that choice, bear in mind that the downside of having to lift your shopping from the front of the car to the back is limited; the downside of backing out into a shopping trolley can be considerable; and let's not consider the downside of backing out into a toddler.

knucklehead6

I used be a manager in a store in north Co. Dublin. We’d normally be open on New Year’s Day but on 1-1-2000 we weren’t.

On 2-1-2000 I was heading into work and when I got there I noticed the gate to our car park was badly damaged, and there was debris from a car on the ground.

I reported it to the estate landlord, just to keep him in the loop and also to get the gate repaired. About 3 hours later I received a call from an irate customer giving out that we had been closed the previous day and he thought we’d be open. He had damaged his car after driving into the gate and wanted to know who was going to pay for his car to be fixed. I gave him the number for the landlord and about 20 minutes later the landlord rang me. He was absolutely pissing himself laughing.

The driver got the bill for repairing the gate and we heard nothing more about his car.

Garibaldi?

knucklehead6 wrote: »

I used be a manager in a store in north Co. Dublin. We’d normally be open on New Year’s Day but on 1-1-2000 we weren’t.

On 2-1-2000 I was heading into work and when I got there I noticed the gate to our car park was badly damaged, and there was debris from a car on the ground.

I reported it to the estate landlord, just to keep him in the loop and also to get the gate repaired. About 3 hours later I received a call from an irate customer giving out that we had been closed the previous day and he thought we’d be open. He had damaged his car after driving into the gate and wanted to know who was going to pay for his car to be fixed. I gave him the number for the landlord and about 20 minutes later the landlord rang me. He was absolutely pissing himself laughing.

The driver got the bill for repairing the gate and we heard nothing more about his car.

LOLOLOL!!

blackwhite

kerry37 wrote: »

Cant understand why people dont reverse INTO the space. Always always always easier and you're a lot more aware of surroundings at the time. Also the plus of simply driving out of it instead of blindly reversing out. A real pet hate of mine

If there is any damage done to the trolley you should of course contact Tesco and pay for it. Probably should have informed them at the time tbf.

Reverse in, drive out is company policy in a lot of work places now - it's recommended best practice by road safety authorities worldwide.

In my previous employer, it was a stated policy and was enforeced. There was a 3 strikes rule, that would result in a verbal warning put on record if anyone had 3 breaches in a rolling 12 month period.

blackwhite

hullaballoo wrote: »

The boot of my car, which is where the shopping goes, is at the back. If I put the back of my car up against a wall or another car, I can't put the shopping in the boot.

This is applicable to most cars in Tesco car parks, I'd imagine.

How tight must you be parking to other cars?

I always reverse into spaces when shopping. I've somehow always managed to get my shopping into the boot as well.

cruizer101

blackwhite wrote: »

How tight must you be parking to other cars?

I always reverse into spaces when shopping. I've somehow always managed to get my shopping into the boot as well.

It can depend on the car park, some have very tight spaces, generally with shopping it is possible but awkward.

However sometimes boot out is the only way if buying larger items.

Tbh it should nearly be a requirement these days for shopping centre car parks to have pedestrian path along back of cars between the rows of parking, its a safer option and more practical.

Like this

realdanbreen

Masala wrote: »

Hi. I reversed out off of a Tesco parking space and while I was reversing I hit a trolley. I didn’t see a person leave a trolley there as they drive off and so I hit it

Where would I stand legally. I not going to make a big deal but is there a case to answer if I contacted Tesco?

Just wondering what would be the normal liability when using car parks etc.

Explain your predicament to Tesco and tell them you are considering getting on to Joe Duffy about it. I'd say you can then expect to get between one and three K, Simple!

gucci

blackwhite wrote: »

Reverse in, drive out is company policy in a lot of work places now - it's recommended best practice by road safety authorities worldwide.

In my previous employer, it was a stated policy and was enforeced. There was a 3 strikes rule, that would result in a verbal warning put on record if anyone had 3 breaches in a rolling 12 month period.

It is compulsory in Oil and Gas industry, and also enforced in many of their supply chain subsidories.
It was always explained to me that its got to do with evacuating a site faster? It certainly would save time and confusion in that case, but we have never had a evacuate the car park drill on any of the sites I have worked on :D

sbsquarepants

Benny Biscotti wrote: »

You have no comeback against Tesco. It was technically your fault. But I empathise with you, it grinds my gears seeing trolleys left abandoned in parking spaces when I go to Aldi.

People can be lazy arse holes not bothering to walk 30 metres to leave their trolley. But sure they have nobody to answer to.

There's also the school of thought that says the driver should really look where they're driving.

As already stated what if that trolley had been a child in a buggy, or someone in a wheelchair - both similar sized objects to a shopping trolley. Who would the OP be looking to claim off then?

OP - Watch where you're going ffs - and stop externalising blame for your shítty driving!

Suckler

Masala wrote: »

Sorry... should have stated that it looks like someone abandoned the trolley on other side and I reversed out and hit it. My question is ... if I damaged my car - can I claim off Tesco for the damage?? I did no damage but just wondering ....

Have a read and see if you can spot the relevance...

https://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/were-absolutely-heartbroken-dozens-of-jobs-lost-as-play-centres-forced-to-close-over-300pc-insurance-hike-37957163.html

If you do decide to try to claim could you CC me on the correspondence? I could do with a laugh.

blackwhite

gucci wrote: »

It is compulsory in Oil and Gas industry, and also enforced in many of their supply chain subsidories.
It was always explained to me that its got to do with evacuating a site faster? It certainly would save time and confusion in that case, but we have never had a evacuate the car park drill on any of the sites I have worked on :D

It's also to do with safety in larger vehicles which have larger blind spots (same principles apply to smaller vehicles too).

You drive past the intended parking space, which means you can observe for hazards, pedestrians, etc. and then reverse into it. Anything approaching from behind you will have already driven past, and anything approaching from in front should be visible to you.

When leaving, you simply drive out, with anything that you might hit in front of you where you are more likely to see it.

brian_t

cruizer101 wrote: »

Tbh it should nearly be a requirement these days for shopping centre car parks to have pedestrian path along back of cars between the rows of parking, its a safer option and more practical.

Like this

I notice in your example that the majority of the cars have still driven into the parking space.

blackwhite

brian_t wrote: »

I notice in your example that the majority of the cars have still driven into the parking space.

The amount of times I've heard someone say they drive into parking spaces because they're "not good at reversing".

If you're not good at reversing, then on what planet is reversing into moving traffic a better option than reversing towards stationary objects?!

GBX

This is whats wrong in this country, people not taking responsibility for their own action and expecting something out of nothing. I hope Tesco have CCTV footage of the OP damaging their property and follow up!

3DataModem

cruizer101 wrote: »

Tbh it should nearly be a requirement these days for shopping centre car parks to have pedestrian path along back of cars between the rows of parking, its a safer option and more practical.

It's only safer if they have kerbs / barriers. Otherwise it can be very unsafe-r.

STB.

Masala wrote: »

Sorry... should have stated that it looks like someone abandoned the trolley on other side and I reversed out and hit it. My question is ... if I damaged my car - can I claim off Tesco for the damage?? I did no damage but just wondering ....

The shiny thing above your head in the centre of the car is called a rear view mirror.

There are additional ones hanging out of the side of each car door at the front as well.

They are not for decoration.

L1011

3DataModem wrote: »

It's only safer if they have kerbs / barriers. Otherwise it can be very unsafe-r.

Plenty of people would drive through if both spaces empty, without paying the vaguest attention to there being people there.

My mother drives through spaces whenever possible, including echelon spaces (which are specifically designed to be drive in, reverse out only) where she ends up having to do a 225 degree turn to get out of them and cannot be told that its a bad idea.

Tilikum17

GBX wrote: »

This is whats wrong in this country, people not taking responsibility for their own action and expecting something out of nothing. I hope Tesco have CCTV footage of the OP damaging their property and follow up!

+1

Some people have literally no shame. Try to claim for anything.

Open your eyes ffs.