EU to bring in automatic speed limiting on all cars within 3 years

Kermit.de.frog

Just spotted this in tomorrow's Times.

Big news for motorists! (click on image to zoom in)

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/times-19.jpg

Atlantic Dawn

And people wonder why the UK voted for Brexit?

Yamanoto

What first attracted you to the millionaire John Delaney?

devlinio

The EU are a bunch of *****. Article 13 is a disgrace.

Micky 32

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And people wonder why the UK voted for Brexit?

I think i’ll hold onto my current 300bhp car for a bit longer then ;-)

NIMAN

Sounds like one of the many headlines in the Daily Mail for the last 30 years that never happened.

Force Carrier

Delaney looks like he has a tennis ball racket shoved up his hole.



There are situations that can arise in driving where it is dangerous to not be able to drive faster than the limit. As such a potentially dangerous feature.

Atlantic Dawn

Micky 32 wrote: »

I think i’ll hold onto my current 300bhp car for a bit longer then ;-)

On the plus side the old stuff should go up in price

Kermit.de.frog

NIMAN wrote: »

Sounds like one of the many headlines in the Daily Mail for the last 30 years that never happened.

This is happening. EU parliament to approve in September.

(I don't agree with it)

dxhound2005

UK expected to do it as well even when they leave.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1091027/speed-limiter-car-three-years-UK-EU

While the UK is primed to leave the EU, the rules are still expected to be applied for motorists across Britain.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Just spotted this in tomorrow's Times.

Big news for motorists! (click on image to zoom in)

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/times-19.jpg

Ireland AND the world edition? Exactly where do they think Ireland is...??

Micky 32

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

On the plus side the old stuff should go up in price

Ironically it does have a speed limiter you can program on it! But you can adjust it or turn it off obviously 😆

Atlantic Dawn

An alcolock and PIN type system where only licence holder with valid licence linked to insurance could start a car would be a far better idea. Majority of those killed are from not complying with these factors rather than speed alone.

rgodard80a

Maybe every time you're caught speeding they should reduce the limiters top speed by 10km.

freedominacup

I've no great problem with it providing it also engages minimum speeds. No more 50kph in an 80kph zone. Can't see that happening at all though.

Cabaal

Seems most people didn't actually read past the headline, the system can be overridden by pressing down harder on the accelerator.

So really it's no different to the speed limiter on my Dacia when it's switched on

Edgware

Force Carrier wrote: »

Delaney looks like he has a tennis ball racket shoved up his hole.



There are situations that can arise in driving where it is dangerous to not be able to drive faster than the limit. As such a potentially dangerous feature.

That's fine as long as youre not eating one of those E.U. straight bananas at the time

listermint

Before we all Jump in here and go nuts. What is the imposed limit ? It wouldn't be something like......180kmph would it..

suicide_circus

listermint wrote: »

Before we all Jump in here and go nuts. What is the imposed limit ? It wouldn't be something like......180kmph would it..

about 300,000 km per second is the speed limit

Edgware

listermint wrote: »

Before we all Jump in here and go nuts. What is the imposed limit ? It wouldn't be something like......180kmph would it..

Can you see Fritz limiting himself to 100 km per hour as he thunders along the Autobahn ?

Working class heroes

It's an opt out cruise control as opposed to an opt in cruise control.

NSAman

So Irish motorists will have to pay VRT on all this new technology (which is already available).

Irish government charge double tax for safety systems...yes of course it is all about making driving safer.

Plopsu

According to the article the limiter will use GPS to detect the appropriate speed limit and adjust the max speed to that.

Yer Da sells Avon

freedominacup wrote: »

I've no great problem with it providing it also engages minimum speeds. No more 50kph in an 80kph zone. Can't see that happening at all though.

Boggles

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And people wonder why the UK voted for Brexit?

They voted because of inward migration, all thought most of their inward migration comes from outside the EU.

So yeah, people are still wondering.

tritium

Force Carrier wrote: »

Delaney looks like he has a tennis ball racket shoved up his hole.



There are situations that can arise in driving where it is dangerous to not be able to drive faster than the limit. As such a potentially dangerous feature.

Not nearly as many as where driving faster than the limit is dangerous. And many of the ones I can think of only arise due to recklessness or stupidity by the driver in the first place.


(And that’s before you find out it can be overridden anyway)

xckjoo

Working class heroes wrote: »

It's an opt out cruise control as opposed to an opt in cruise control.

Not cruise control. The other thingy. Speed limiter or whatever it's called. Where you put the foot down but it stops accelerating at the limit. Can't remember the exact name because my car has neither

EmmetSpiceland

If you can override it then it’s pointless. The sooner our roads are rid of the boy racers and eejits who think they are Michael Schumacher the better.

It should certainly be mandatory for work vehicles, taxis and buses. The “white van man” wouldn’t be as lethal then, that’s for sure!

Gimme A Pound

DIS IS SUCH BANANNY REPUBLIC STATE SH1T!!! :mad:

alchemist33

Edgware wrote: »

Can you see Fritz limiting himself to 100 km per hour as he thunders along the Autobahn ?

Fritz is more cautious than people usually give him credit for. Helmut now, he's a proper headcase

kirving

NSAman wrote: »

So Irish motorists will have to pay VRT on all this new technology (which is already available).

Irish government charge double tax for safety systems...yes of course it is all about making driving safer.

Absolutely disgraceful that VRT (and VAT) is applied to vehicle safety systems which are already a significant investment by the owner.

Not surprisingly, VAT is also applied to bicycle helmets, which is equally disingenuous.

SteM

Black box technology in the cars is the bigger story here imo. If you choose to override the speed limiter and are involved in an accident you're caught bang to rights.

Patty Hearst

NIMAN wrote: »

Sounds like one of the many headlines in the Daily Mail for the last 30 years that never happened.

Except for the headlines about rape gangs of course.

Micky 32

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The “white van man” wouldn’t be as lethal then, that’s for sure!

I’m assuming you have evidence to back this up? ( no i don’t drive a van), recent studies have suggested otherwise, a myth.

kneemos

Force Carrier wrote: »

Delaney looks like he has a tennis ball racket shoved up his hole.



There are situations that can arise in driving where it is dangerous to not be able to drive faster than the limit. As such a potentially dangerous feature.

People wouldn't wear sealt belts years ago because they were difficult to remove if you ended up submerged.

If the return far outweighs the odd freak occurrence it'll be a winner.

4068ac1elhodqr

+ With some new electric cars able to see 60mph/96kph within 3.5secs, this is a very good thing in low speed urban areas.
- On the motorway, overtaking will become dangerous even if it means tapping the pedals for extra oomph some delay will occur.

It beckons the day when everyone will need to have a GPS blackbox fitted for insurance purposes.

Banjo

rgodard80a wrote: »

Maybe every time you're caught speeding they should reduce the limiters top speed by 10km.

If you're caught speeding, the what is the point in reducing the top speed of the limiter? It's clearly not working.

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It should certainly be mandatory for work vehicles, taxis and buses. The “white van man” wouldn’t be as lethal then, that’s for sure!

For that to happen you need a device that stops you crossing a lane marking unless your indicator has been on for longer than 2 seconds and the sensors on either side of the car indicate that there isn't someone already in the space you're moving into. The WVM threat is less about raw speed and more about cavalier unpredictability.

The Tetrarch

kneemos wrote: »

People wouldn't wear sealt belts years ago because they were difficult to remove if you ended up submerged.

I worked with a lad who wanted to be able to jump out of the car if there was going to be an accident.
How we laughed.

mad muffin

I for one couldn’t care less. I used to love driving but increasingly, it has become a chore I do not welcome. What with the way traffic is now, the state of the roads, and the increased likelihood of getting caught speeding. More often than not, I choose not to drive.

Ray Palmer

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And people wonder why the UK voted for Brexit?

The UK will have to abide by these rules too even if no deal happens. It is going to happen everywhere. The idea that it is just an EU plan is where you fall down

El_Duderino 09

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

If you can override it then it’s pointless. The sooner our roads are rid of the boy racers and eejits who think they are Michael Schumacher the better.

It should certainly be mandatory for work vehicles, taxis and buses. The “white van man” wouldn’t be as lethal then, that’s for sure!

It's not pointless it just isn't what most people assume it is. They instinct seems to be to assume it's a nanny state. In fact it's to help people who don't want to break the speed limit from breaking it. It would be very hard not to consciously break the speed limit with this adjustment.

It won't do anything about the boy racers. It won't stop anyone from using additional speed in an emergency. It's a great compromise. There's nothing sadder than someone getting speeding points or a fine for being a small bit over the limit by accident.

BeerWolf

All these automated safety features shall be our deaths when we need to leg it most!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EMqd5Nznv0

Allinall

SteM wrote: »

Black box technology in the cars is the bigger story here imo. If you choose to override the speed limiter and are involved in an accident you're caught bang to rights.

Proper order, too.

kirving

SteM wrote: »

Black box technology in the cars is the bigger story here imo. If you choose to override the speed limiter and are involved in an accident you're caught bang to rights.

This has been in place for years on most car brands. My last car, released in 2004 had a black box type system built in by Volvo.

Junkyard Tom

They'll be clamping the homeless next.

SEPT 23 1989

Black box trackers and a cashless society

And I think to myself what a wonderful world

Balanadan

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Black box trackers and a cashless society

And I think to myself what a wonderful world

I've gone through phases of using card only and cash only. Can't beat carrying cash. Bitches love it when you pull out a wad of notes.