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Work on half built house without planning

  • 26-03-2019 6:55pm
    #1
    brianmax88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭


    There is a house close to mine that was started about 15 years ago and has been left idle for about 10. There arent even windows in yet. It was sold about a year and a half ago by the banks. There was a digger on site about 6 months ago and they done a small bit of digging looking for the septic tank id say. Today the digger is back. Can they do anything without applying for retention or new planning?


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  • #2
    Metric Tensor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    What height were the walls brought to ten years ago?


  • #3
    brianmax88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭brianmax88


    Metric Tensor wrote: »
    What height were the walls brought to ten years ago?

    There is a roof on it and slated.


  • #4
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    brianmax88 wrote: »
    There is a house close to mine that was started about 15 years ago and has been left idle for about 10. There arent even windows in yet. It was sold about a year and a half ago by the banks. There was a digger on site about 6 months ago and they done a small bit of digging looking for the septic tank id say. Today the digger is back. Can they do anything without applying for retention or new planning?

    Planning permission is needed before anything else is done.


  • #5
    brianmax88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭brianmax88


    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    Planning permission is needed before anything else is done.

    Thats what i thought


  • #6
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    brianmax88 wrote: »
    There is a roof on it and slated.

    Substantially complete then in my opinion.
    These works now most likely are exempt.


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  • #7
    brianmax88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭brianmax88


    kceire wrote: »


    Substantially complete then in my opinion.
    These works now most likely are exempt.

    Even though the house doesnt comply with the original planning?


  • #8
    The_Bullman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭The_Bullman


    What's the difference between this and an old cottage that hasn't been lived in for 5-10 years? Am I wrong to think that the cottage can't be lived in?


  • #9
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    brianmax88 wrote: »
    Even though the house doesnt comply with the original planning?

    If you want answers, you need to ask the questions properly or at least out the info in your post.

    In the opening post, you mentioned nothing, absolutely nothing about it not complying with the original planning.

    Can you clarify in what way it doesn’t comply with the original planning?


  • #10
    brianmax88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭brianmax88


    kceire wrote: »
    If you want answers, you need to ask the questions properly or at least out the info in your post.

    In the opening post, you mentioned nothing, absolutely nothing about it not complying with the original planning.

    Can you clarify in what way it doesn’t comply with the original planning?

    Sure has no planning now. And it doesnt compy because the origianl owner got planning for a bungalow but he built a dormer and cut out two windows in the gable ends. One looking down our property


  • #11
    Still waters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    why didnt you lodge an objection when the previous owner strayed from the plans


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  • #12
    brianmax88
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    Still waters wrote: »
    why didnt you lodge an objection when the previous owner strayed from the plans

    I wasnt around at the time.


  • #13
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    brianmax88 wrote: »
    Sure has no planning now. And it doesnt compy because the origianl owner got planning for a bungalow but he built a dormer and cut out two windows in the gable ends. One looking down our property

    It does have planning. Just needs a retention application to retain the dormers.


  • #14
    doug82
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭doug82


    The_Bullman wrote: »
    What's the difference between this and an old cottage that hasn't been lived in for 5-10 years? Am I wrong to think that the cottage can't be lived in?

    Of course it can be lived in.


  • #15
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    15 years is a long time just wondering if any action can be taken at all?

    Provided the current owner isn't selling again why would they need retention?


  • #16
    Metric Tensor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    doug82 wrote: »
    Of course it can be lived in.


    Actually at least one county that I know of had a requirement that if a house was unoccupied for more than X number of years PP was required to reoccupy.


    This was the previous County Development Plan. Not sure if it is still in the newest one.


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