Price of a tiler?

BrookieD

Hi All.
I'm just wondering if anyone knows the average price per square metre of a tiler, i got a quote of €650 (labour only) for tiling kitchen floor and splash, total 11 square meters

just under €60 per sq mt? seems somewhat expensive to me?

Thanks

dok_golf

Thats about going rate for a good one. 2 days work.

Rows Grower

It could be 3 days work and more depending on the type of tiles, the layout of the kitchen and the surfaces to be tiled.

Still waters

I just had a tiler tile 10 square meters, 1 day at his ease, are they a standard tile OP ? seems expensive unless its awkward/specialised work, the floor I had to do was very straightforward though

BrookieD

Still waters wrote: »

I just had a tiler tile 10 square meters, 1 day at his ease, are they a standard tile OP ? seems expensive unless its awkward/specialised work, the floor I had to do was very straightforward though

Hi mate,
Floor is clean and ready to work on. Walls the same. Just tile between worktop and bottom of cupboards. No mad tiles all straight forward

BrookieD

BrookieD wrote: »

Hi mate,
Floor is clean and ready to work on. Walls the same. Just tile between worktop and bottom of cupboards. No mad tiles all straight forward

Sorry floor is 8sq and walls 3sq

Still waters

BrookieD wrote: »

Sorry floor is 8sq and walls 3sq

2 days work so, still a little on expensive side I think, I'd be getting a second quote to compare

BrookieD

yeah getting a few more quotes in now. Cheers

Muahahaha

Got quoted €300 myself to tile 6sqm of kitchen wall which seems pricey at €50 a sqm. Threads in the prices and costs forum from a couple of years back speak of €20psm+VAT as being the going rate for tiling so I'm wondering does it get jacked up considerably for a small job like this?

Rows Grower

Muahahaha wrote: »

Got quoted €300 myself to tile 6sqm of kitchen wall which seems pricey at €50 a sqm. Threads in the prices and costs forum from a couple of years back speak of €20psm+VAT as being the going rate for tiling so I'm wondering does it get jacked up considerably for a small job like this?

6 sq meters of a kitchen splashback isn't really a small job. There is an awful lot of cutting involved in the average kitchen walls job.

Undoing double sockets and cutting around them so the finish looks good when they are replaced takes time and skill, between that and working around and up to the cooker hood a small kitchen wall job can involve more cutting than a large sized floor.

Usually the tiles are about the size of a beer mat so there is a lot of patience needed to do the grouting right too, for 6 sq meters that would be 600 individual tiles if they all fitted perfectly and none had to be cut.

Usually a tiler will quote "from" XX a square meter, but kitchen walls and ensuite floors or other small jobs would be priced more on a day rate.

Shaunoc

tiles are big - that'll cost extra
tiles are small - that'll cost extra
tales have rectified edges - that'll cost extra

.......
my experience of some tilers....hard to find the perfect tile for some

Rows Grower

A mix of small and big with rectified edges would probably be ideal but the area would have to be the size of a football field and as level as a snooker table.

cargen

Rows Grower wrote: »

6 sq meters of a kitchen splashback isn't really a small job. There is an awful lot of cutting involved in the average kitchen walls job.

Undoing double sockets and cutting around them so the finish looks good when they are replaced takes time and skill, between that and working around and up to the cooker hood a small kitchen wall job can involve more cutting than a large sized floor.

Usually the tiles are about the size of a beer mat so there is a lot of patience needed to do the grouting right too, for 6 sq meters that would be 600 individual tiles if they all fitted perfectly and none had to be cut.

Usually a tiler will quote "from" XX a square meter, but kitchen walls and ensuite floors or other small jobs would be priced more on a day rate.

600 tiles for 6 sqm doesn't seems right to me.
20cmx20cm which is quite small should be 175 tiles for 6 sqm

Rows Grower

cargen wrote: »

Rows Grower wrote: »

6 sq meters of a kitchen splashback isn't really a small job. There is an awful lot of cutting involved in the average kitchen walls job.

Undoing double sockets and cutting around them so the finish looks good when they are replaced takes time and skill, between that and working around and up to the cooker hood a small kitchen wall job can involve more cutting than a large sized floor.

Usually the tiles are about the size of a beer mat so there is a lot of patience needed to do the grouting right too, for 6 sq meters that would be 600 individual tiles if they all fitted perfectly and none had to be cut.

Usually a tiler will quote "from" XX a square meter, but kitchen walls and ensuite floors or other small jobs would be priced more on a day rate.

600 tiles for 6 sqm doesn't seems right to me.
20cmx20cm which is quite small should be 175 tiles for 6 sqm

That’s some rather large beer mats you’ve got there.

Muahahaha

Rows Grower wrote: »

6 sq meters of a kitchen splashback isn't really a small job. There is an awful lot of cutting involved in the average kitchen walls job.

Undoing double sockets and cutting around them so the finish looks good when they are replaced takes time and skill, between that and working around and up to the cooker hood a small kitchen wall job can involve more cutting than a large sized floor.

Usually the tiles are about the size of a beer mat so there is a lot of patience needed to do the grouting right too, for 6 sq meters that would be 600 individual tiles if they all fitted perfectly and none had to be cut.

Usually a tiler will quote "from" XX a square meter, but kitchen walls and ensuite floors or other small jobs would be priced more on a day rate.

You make fair points, its just I was taken aback at a calculation of €50psqm. The tiles I'm hoping to use are reclaimed brick slips which are 250mm x 60mm in size. I'm not sure how many of them 6sqm would need but its probably a fair bit. https://decostones.ie/shop/internal-external-brick-slips/xviii-century-brick-slips/

Dr_Colossus

Would you consider doing them DIY. I've never tiled previously but I'm currently half way through a full and rather complicated ensuite measuring 21m2 plus I've gone with 250mm hexagon porcelain tiles for the walls which are more exacting to lay and especially plan. If you're getting quotes of between €50-60 per m2 I wouldn't be surprised if I was quoted €100

It's slow meticulous work not helped by only getting a few hours at it each week but with plenty of patience it can be done and is rewarding. I wouldn't trust just anyone to tile given experience of previous owners hiring a "professional" who caused thousands of damage with incredulous workmanship resulting in the whole relatively recent ensuite having to be ripped out back to the studs and joists.

I've gone through a lot of Sal DiBlasi videos on youtube and found them invaluable. His workmanship and attention to detail is fantastic and just envious a true professional of his caliber isn't available here.

cargen

Rows Grower wrote: »

That’s some rather large beer mats you’ve got there.

Not sure what you mean

Check here

https://www.calculator.net/tile-calculator.html?tilewidth=20&tilewidthunit=cm&tilelength=20&tilelengthunit=cm&totalarea=6&totalareaunit=meter&totalwidth=&totalwidthunit=foot&totallength=&totallengthunit=foot&gapsize=0.25&gapsizeunit=cm&x=53&y=27

cargen

cargen wrote: »

Not sure what you mean

Check here

https://www.calculator.net/tile-calculator.html?tilewidth=20&tilewidthunit=cm&tilelength=20&tilelengthunit=cm&totalarea=6&totalareaunit=meter&totalwidth=&totalwidthunit=foot&totallength=&totallengthunit=foot&gapsize=0.25&gapsizeunit=cm&x=53&y=27

Ok I got you now

Rows Grower

Muahahaha wrote: »

You make fair points, its just I was taken aback at a calculation of €50psqm. The tiles I'm hoping to use are reclaimed brick slips which are 250mm x 60mm in size. I'm not sure how many of them 6sqm would need but its probably a fair bit. https://decostones.ie/shop/internal-external-brick-slips/xviii-century-brick-slips/

Using those reclaimed brick slips makes the job even more tedious as you can't cut them with an ordinary tile cutter, each cut would have to be done with either a water saw or a grinder with a diamond tipped blade.

I wouldn't be a fan of them as a kitchen splash back myself as the principal idea of having tiles behind where you are cooking is to make the area easier to keep clean and hygienic.

The way they are done in the display picture looks like the tiler didn't allow for the uneven thickness of the slips and just put them up on the same thin bed of adhesive creating an area full of "lipping" which would be a nightmare to keep clean and hygienic in a family kitchen. I don't know how good they would be with coping with spalshes either as I'd imagine unless they are sealed they would be prone to staining.

BrookieD

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Would you consider doing them DIY. I've never tiled previously but I'm currently half way through a full and rather complicated ensuite measuring 21m2 plus I've gone with 250mm hexagon porcelain tiles for the walls which are more exacting to lay and especially plan. If you're getting quotes of between €50-60 per m2 I wouldn't be surprised if I was quoted €100

It's slow meticulous work not helped by only getting a few hours at it each week but with plenty of patience it can be done and is rewarding. I wouldn't trust just anyone to tile given experience of previous owners hiring a "professional" who caused thousands of damage with incredulous workmanship resulting in the whole relatively recent ensuite having to be ripped out back to the studs and joists.

I've gone through a lot of Sal DiBlasi videos on youtube and found them invaluable. His workmanship and attention to detail is fantastic and just envious a true professional of his caliber isn't available here.

Hands up i cannot hang a shelf, i know my limits mate ;-)

Rows Grower

BrookieD wrote: »

yeah getting a few more quotes in now. Cheers

Hope you do get more quotes because I'd be very surprised if any of them will be near 650 euro for what you described.

Muahahaha

Rows Grower wrote: »

Using those reclaimed brick slips makes the job even more tedious as you can't cut them with an ordinary tile cutter, each cut would have to be done with either a water saw or a grinder with a diamond tipped blade.

I wouldn't be a fan of them as a kitchen splash back myself as the principal idea of having tiles behind where you are cooking is to make the area easier to keep clean and hygienic.

The way they are done in the display picture looks like the tiler didn't allow for the uneven thickness of the slips and just put them up on the same thin bed of adhesive creating an area full of "lipping" which would be a nightmare to keep clean and hygienic in a family kitchen. I don't know how good they would be with coping with spalshes either as I'd imagine unless they are sealed they would be prone to staining.

Thanks for the advice RG. In my case the wall I intend them to go on is only has a sink, hob is elsewhere on an island. The sink is quite deep so Id hope they do not get wet just giving dishes a splash of water before they go in the dishwasher.

Regarding the thickness of the slips and lipping- how would a decent tiler solve this, by varying the depth of the adhesive or some other method? Also what kind of sealant would you recommend?

Rows Grower

Muahahaha wrote: »

Thanks for the advice RG. In my case the wall I intend them to go on is only has a sink, hob is elsewhere on an island. The sink is quite deep so Id hope they do not get wet just giving dishes a splash of water before they go in the dishwasher.

Regarding the thickness of the slips and lipping- how would a decent tiler solve this, by varying the depth of the adhesive or some other method? Also what kind of sealant would you recommend?

To avoid the lipping the tiler could grade the tiles first into three different thickness groups and work from the thickest ones on the bottom row up to the medium and then the thinnest ones on top for easier cuts.

The bed of adhesive should be the same depth all over but be deep enough to allow the brick on top be pressed into place and still be level with the bottom row. There's a bit of a knack to it but it's not rocket science either.

I wouldn't have any favourite sealer to be honest, it's a long time since I've used one but I would say shop around before buying because like everything else some of them are well marketed but vastly overpriced.

Muahahaha

Thanks for the advice RG, very helpful. Just gotta find a tiler who knows how to do it now, I'd be happy to pay the price provided it is a professional job.