Life on Mars?

kneemos

Yes.

Well maybe


https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1104520/life-mars-nasa-scientists-fungi-evidence-in-mars-curiosity-rover-photos/amp

Harry Palmr

Is Piers Corbyn predicting a heatwave or snowmageddeon on Mars

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Mike Oxlong

Hey!! Captain Kirk was a fun-gi doncha know!

Signore Fancy Pants

Is there any update on Uranus OP?

punisher5112

Dale Doback wrote: »

Is there any update on Uranus OP?

There's a big red truck in my anus

Googling NASA Fungi brings up some interesting sites.

Eggbread

Can't they set a camera up to watch it grow?

branie2

Could be

Duckworth_Luas

Deleted User wrote: »

Googling NASA Fungi brings up some interesting sites.

No it doesn't!

Alf Veedersane

It's a God-awful small affair

TheValeyard

I'd be curious if it's actually Marsian growing Fungi or something that came from a non sterilised part of the Rover.

kneemos

Would have thought it would be bigger news tbh.
All that talk about finding be life on another planet changing what we think about life and religion.

Bothered?

Avatar MIA

First I've seen of this. And it's on AH :eek:

This is massive.

AH response ... Magic mushrooms?

Snow Garden

I think those red arrows are fake.

Odhinn

Avatar MIA wrote: »

First I've seen of this. And it's on AH :eek:

This is massive.

AH response ... Magic mushrooms?

Amazing that its on AH, when NASA doesn't appear to have it at all, at all.

https://www.nasa.gov/news/releases/latest/index.html

Duckworth_Luas

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

No it doesn't!

Sarcasm...

Wibbs

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I'd be curious if it's actually Marsian growing Fungi or something that came from a non sterilised part of the Rover.

Slight problem with that M, if you wanted to build a planet sized machine that still looked nice for sterilising say medical equipment Mars would be in the running. The atmosphere is crazily thin, it has no magnetosphere so gets the full blast of the solar wind with all the radiation involved and the soil alone is full of compounds that will kill most life. Now they did find a few living bacteria stuck on an inside surface of a Lunar probe the Apollo guys brought a part back from, which is incredible and why they seek to sterilise all such probes since, but even though the Moon is a vacuum Mars is pretty much as bad.

Now if Mars had surface liquid water for a long enough time - and it appears it had billions of years ago - life did start it's possible that some evolved adaptations as the planet dried out and went cold and maybe some have survived, but I'd be surprised to find them on the surface. Deep aquifers with a tiny bit of planetary heat, or low energy life living in water ice pockets in the ales.

Insect Overlord

Wibbs wrote: »

Deep aquifers with a tiny bit of planetary heat, or low energy life living in water ice pockets in the ales.

Martian beer, you say? :eek:

TheIrishGrover

I doubt there is much to this to be honest. I don't think we would be hearing about this on one paper if it wasn't pretty much debunked by others.

Do I believe in extraterrestrial life? Absolutely.
Do I believe there is a life currently on Mars? Possibly.
Do I believe there was life on Mars? Probably.
Do I believe there is extraterrestrial life within our Solar System? Probably.

Interesting but I think if it was conclusive then it would be MASSIVE news. Might even take Brexit/Trump off headline for a day.

YFlyer

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I doubt there is much to this to be honest. I don't think we would be hearing about this on one paper if it wasn't pretty much debunked by others.

Do I believe in extraterrestrial life? Absolutely.
Do I believe there is a life currently on Mars? Possibly.
Do I believe there was life on Mars? Probably.
Do I believe there is extraterrestrial life within our Solar System? Probably.

Interesting but I think if it was conclusive then it would be MASSIVE news. Might even take Brexit/Trump off headline for a day.

Do you think an event could destroy life fully?

Avatar MIA

YFlyer wrote: »

There is life in our solar system.

He probably meant to qualify with 'intelligent'. Jury is still out on that one. :pac:















Plus, he did say extraterrestrial

salmocab

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It's a God-awful small affair

To who? the girl with the mousy hair

Avatar MIA

This is looking like a 1st of April article released early by mistake.

First that otter in Dublin .

AtomicHorror

salmocab wrote: »

To who? the girl with the mousy hair

Well, her mummy is yelling "no!"...

Avatar MIA

Avatar MIA wrote: »

This is looking like a 1st of April article released early by mistake.

First that otter in Dublin .

they otter be ashamed

Wibbs

bluewolf wrote: »

they otter be ashamed

TBH I thought you were channeling Groucho Marx B. So Not a bad thing.

Wibbs

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Martian beer, you say? :eek:

You read my mind IO.

Elemonator

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Well, her mummy is yelling "no!"...

And Daddy has told her to go

Kermit.de.frog

The Express


I'm not clicking on that link OP.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Googling NASA Fungi brings up some interesting sites.

And images.

Franz Von Peppercorn

If they found life they need to bring back samples.

It’s odd alright that the express is the only paper with this.

bazz26

Be careful what you wish for:

Capt'n Midnight

Probably not, the soil is bleach.

Literally. 1% perchlorate.

Avatar MIA

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320346609_The_High_Probability_of_Life_on_Mars_A_Brief_Review_of_the_Evidence

This, a 2017 paper, seems to be the source. :rolleyes:

AtomicHorror

Avatar MIA wrote: »

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320346609_The_High_Probability_of_Life_on_Mars_A_Brief_Review_of_the_Evidence

This, a 2017 paper, seems to be the source. :rolleyes:

Nope, there's a 2019 review paper:

R. Gabriel Joseph, Regina S. Dass, V. Rizzo, N. Cantasano and G. Bianciardi
Evidence of Life on Mars?
Journal of Astrobiology and Space Science Reviews,
Vol 1, 40-81, 2019

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rhawn_Joseph2/publication/331811325_Evidence_of_Life_on_Mars/links/5c8d1a57299bf14e7e7f6683/Evidence-of-Life-on-Mars.pdf

It's not primary research of any description, and I'd wonder about the credibility and impact factor of the journal, but it's real and recent. ****ty tabloids still haven't learned how to cite their sources though.

TheIrishGrover

YFlyer wrote: »

Do you think an event could destroy life fully?

Obviously I'm no expert but I would think it would be difficult to 100% eradicate life where it has gotten root. Obviously I'm not talking about Little Grey Men hiding in pyramids on Mars but microscopic life can be extremely tough.

I do believe we will discover conclusive proof of extraterrestrial or even extrasolar life within my lifetime.

It may (Probably will) be microscopic life on Mars (Either alive or extinct). I would be happy with this: Two very average planets orbiting a very average star would indicate (to me) that life at some stage is abundant.

There may even be some form of conclusive proof of intelligent life on other planets around other stars: Chemical analysis of atmosphere on extra-solar planets indicating artificial chemicals. Even potentially, faint signals.

I do not believe in UFOs (Although I did as a kid). Our current understanding of the universe would indicate that Faster Than Light travel is not possible but who knows? Maybe tomorrow someone will discover something very simple that turns our understanding of the universt on its head.

Lorelli!

The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said.

salmocab

Lorelli! wrote: »

The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said.

We’re already doing a song. Get your own thread to derail

Lorelli!

salmocab wrote: »

We’re already doing a song. Get your own thread to derail

oh sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt your song

JupiterKid

We’ve been here before (Mars meteorite ALH 84001) but the emerging evidence does seem quite compelling.

Viking found very ambigious results in its tests for Martian life back in the 1970s that were never fully explained.

But as the late great astronomer Carl Sagan opined...”extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

Only a sample return mission and a follow up manned mission to Mars will seal the deal.

We shall see. If these claims are found to be true, it will be the most important scientific discovery in the history of humanity.

pleas advice

Lorelli! wrote: »

The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said.

A gentle rain falls softly on my weary eyes, As if to hide a lonely tear
My life will be forever autumn, 'Cause you're not here

pleas advice

salmocab wrote: »

We’re already doing a song. Get your own thread to derail

life,
oh life,
oh life
oh life...
do do do do

TheIrishGrover

Unfortunately, due to the technical difficulties, I don't think we'll get a manned mission without some form of earth-rocking discovery such as 100% conclusive proof of EXISTING life on Mars.

And that 100% proof is so difficult to achieve:

• There is only a 50% success-rate of probes landing on Mars safely
• The probes are limited by the equipment they launched with and, while some of the probes are huge, they are still limited (I saw a mock-up one in the Smithsonian in Washington on holidays. was stunned at how big some are)
• Scientists will never say something is 100% conclusive simply because, strictly speaking, you can never prove something 100% completely. There is always a chance, no matter how minuscule, that there is something they missed. They will say "We believe", or "All evidence points to" etc. They won't come out and say "Good evening. There IS life on Mars" *Mike drop*. Scientists will never say "Yes. This is NOT a theory. It is 100% fact. Deal with it". As long as they don't say that you will have people who doubt. Even if the evidence is overwhelming.
• To many, seeing still photos of bacteria on a pieve of dirty metal just isn't "Sexy" enough. Even if scientists did[/} come out and state 100% that there is life on Mars, many will go "Where? Martians? Are they coming? What's that? Germs? Ah, FFS"
  

I know Musk wants to go and that is probably our best shot (Or some private/public combination) but I think it's still 30 years away.