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How come there's no penalty points for driving without tax?

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  • 22-03-2019 7:14pm
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    Jp1506
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭


    Was looking at the penalty point table and noticed that there's no penalty points issued for driving without tax. Thought this was a bit strange as there is penalty points issued for less severe offences. Can anybody shed any light on the reason and what are the penalties for driving without tax?


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    Truckermal
    Registered Users Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Tax has nothing to do with road safety.


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    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Tax is a finance offence which attracts a fine for non display of same oor seizure if out of date past a certain period. Penalty periods are a safety initiative to change behaviour.


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    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,609 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Jp1506 wrote: »
    Was looking at the penalty point table and noticed that there's no penalty points issued for driving without tax. Thought this was a bit strange as there is penalty points issued for less severe offences. Can anybody shed any light on the reason and what are the penalties for driving without tax?

    You can be fined for not displaying a valid tax disc, and if the tax is out over two months, your car is liable to be impounded until the arrears are paid.

    Tax doesn't correspond to road safety, it's a revenue matter.


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    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    it's just a tax and the Gards shouldn't be tasked with enforcing it imo


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    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,089 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    This tax shouldn't exist in the first place.
    No need for it.


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    wonski
    Registered Users Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    What are the less severe offences the op mentions? Because I can't think of any.

    Road tax doesn't directly affect any other road users at the time of the offence.

    Penalty points are to discipline drivers who in theory cause a danger on the road. Taxed or not...


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    BuboBubo
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭BuboBubo


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    You can be fined for not displaying a valid tax disc, and if the tax is out over two months, your car is liable to be impounded until the arrears are paid.

    Tax doesn't correspond to road safety, it's a revenue matter.

    This ^^^ tax isn't a safety issue, nct and insurance are!

    How many days grace do you get though? If your tax disc expires on the last day of March, could you get a fine on 3rd of April? Just curious?


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    wonski
    Registered Users Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    No grace. You can get two in two days parked outside your house, too ;)

    Sure most will not fine you for few days anyway but legally can.


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    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,089 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    BuboBubo wrote: »
    This ^^^ tax isn't a safety issue, nct and insurance are!

    How is insurance a safety issue?

    I agree with NCT being one, but can't see any link between insurance and safety.


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    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    CiniO wrote:
    How is insurance a safety issue?


    Stop thinking solely about yourself for a change.


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    McCrack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭McCrack


    CiniO wrote: »
    How is insurance a safety issue?

    I agree with NCT being one, but can't see any link between insurance and safety.

    There isn't any link and like motor tax not having insurance should not be a penalty point offence.

    If someone is detected without insurance they normally will get a two year disqualification anyway


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,924 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    CiniO wrote: »
    How is insurance a safety issue?

    Because your vehicle is a danger to every other road user if it's not insured.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Because your vehicle is a danger to every other road user if it's not insured.

    But you can't (legally) tax your car if it's not insured


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    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,766 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Driving without tax is a revenue issue, not a safety one. It's more of a money issue than anything else.


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    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Driving without sex is a revenue issue, not a safety one. It's more of a money issue than anything else.

    I'll make sure to get a BJ the next time I'm on the motorway


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    EmptyTree
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭EmptyTree


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Driving without sex is a revenue issue, not a safety one. It's more of a money issue than anything else.
    I imagine driving with sex is a safety issue too....


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    Wheety
    Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Driving without sex is a revenue issue, not a safety one. It's more of a money issue than anything else.

    Could be a safety issue tbf :-)


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    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    what is this thread? Someone looking to get points given for no tax?...


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,924 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Kailani Famous Selfishness wrote: »
    But you can't (legally) tax your car if it's not insured

    Your insurance can expire while the tax is still valid.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Your insurance can expire while the tax is still valid.

    It can but to renew your tax you need an insurance policy number etc. Doesnt have to be real though as it's not verified.


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