Kildare People's Sleep Being Disturbed by AN-12

Trebor176

This came up on Facebook:

https://www.kildarenow.com/news/loud-russian-aircraft-disturbing-sleep-north-kildare/271376

I never mind hearing them, and haven't heard any reports of people being woken by them.

colbarr

Trebor176 wrote: »

https://www.kildarenow.com/news/loud-russian-aircraft-disturbing-sleep-north-kildare/271376

That's some top notch reporting there, does anybody know the guy who hands out the Pulitzer prize or whatever the equivalent is for journalism?

Bonzo Delaney

When is the next scheduled flight

john boye

What an odd report. It's not based on any actual complaints about the flights, just someone explaining what they are with quotes which are most likely made up.

Pinch Flat

I’d get out of the bed to see it. Ah well horses for courses. When’s the next one?

roadmaster

How do the crew put up with the noise, is there soundproofing in the cockpit?

Locker10a

roadmaster wrote: »

How do the crew put up with the noise, is there soundproofing in the cockpit?

This was my thought when I heard it fly over

lintdrummer

roadmaster wrote: »

How do the crew put up with the noise, is there soundproofing in the cockpit?

Stovepipe

Bose headsets are top of the range and expensive. Russian (insert eastern european nationality) aircrew tend not to have them, as a result, as they also tend to be underpaid compared to Western airline crews. Antonov 12 crews tend to look like sheepherders. An An 12 that attended Dublin lately had the crew sleeping inside; the refueller had to wake them to get them to set up the fuel system for topping up.

regards
Stovepipe

1123heavy

Stovepipe wrote: »

Bose headsets are top of the range and expensive. Russian (insert eastern european nationality) aircrew tend not to have them, as a result, as they also tend to be underpaid compared to Western airline crews. Antonov 12 crews tend to look like sheepherders. An An 12 that attended Dublin lately had the crew sleeping inside; the refueller had to wake them to get them to set up the fuel system for topping up.

regards
Stovepipe

What nonsense did I just read? Have you ever actually flown with eastern europeans? I did my flight training in eastern europe and the eastern instructors and students had top of the range bose headsets and other kit that i coming from ireland wasn't even able to afford.

Not all eastern european pilots live the youtube congo cargo life you seem to have in mind.

EchoIndia

This is quite a good video of an An-12 operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i721IEIGDsU

smurfjed

Caught this in Bangor Maine yesterday

smurfjed

smurfjed wrote: »

Caught this in Bangor Maine yesterday

UR-CNT

This aircraft receives the Jim Jefferies seal of approval.

smurfjed

This is a different aircraft and I climbed onboard in Kuwait.



Look at the radio operators headset.

sparrowcar

1123heavy wrote: »

What nonsense did I just read? Have you ever actually flown with eastern europeans? I did my flight training in eastern europe and the eastern instructors and students had top of the range bose headsets and other kit that i coming from ireland wasn't even able to afford.

Not all eastern european pilots live the youtube congo cargo life you seem to have in mind.

I somewhat agree with his comments having dealt with Antonov crews for almost 20 years now. Dealt with the AN-124 crews years ago and they would arrive into DUB with no hi-viz vests or ear defenders. All of them looked like goat herders no word of a lie.

I know these comments don't apply to modern commercial Russian and ex russian airlines but certainly the antonov cargo flights always had poor resources and very dishevelled looking crews.

BZ

sparrowcar wrote: »

I somewhat agree with his comments having dealt with Antonov crews for almost 20 years now. Dealt with the AN-124 crews years ago and they would arrive into DUB with no hi-viz vests or ear defenders. All of them looked like goat herders no word of a lie.

I know these comments don't apply to modern commercial Russian and ex russian airlines but certainly the antonov cargo flights always had poor resources and very dishevelled looking crews.

AN-124 crews have come a long way. Fully kitted out in full PPE and dressed immaculately and always very polite and professional.

sparrowcar

BZ wrote: »

AN-124 crews have come a long way. Fully kitted out in full PPE and dressed immaculately and always very polite and professional.

I'm sure you're right. Its been a few years since since I've been out to one.

ZX7R

i call bull on the story ive been doing security since last October at weekends near maynooth i do a patrol at midnight each night and never heard it:rolleyes:

Stovepipe

smurfjed wrote: »

This is a different aircraft and I climbed onboard in Kuwait.



Look at the radio operators headset.

Those are the headsets I saw on the AN-12 crew. Very old design and certainly not Boses. I was nearby in my company's uniform and was asked by the refueller, a friend, to provide mobile steps, because the crew wanted to check the oil. We are not allowed to give free access to our steps so I rang our office and they declined, saying that another well-known Dublin ground handling agency was "handling" the Antonov, so I had to decline. The handling agency was nowhere to be seen for quite a while so I had to chance to have a good look over the Antonov. Only the Captain wore anything resembling a uniform (a Captain's cap and four bars) and the rest were snugly wrapped in several layers of a mix of civilian and work clothing. No hi viz vest, except on the Captain. I've seen quite a few of those cargo aircraft from various countries (An-12, An-72, An-124) in Dublin and the crews all looked the same; one aircraft had a domestic fridge inside, bungeed to the side of the cargo compartment. They all had spare wheels, chocks, towbars, blocks of wood, toolboxes and the crew's personal gear tucked into every available spot. Also, they all smoked, in and around the aircraft, despite being told that the Dub Airport police would bollock them, so they would simply smoke inside and ignore the police. Apart from that, they are usually friendly and usually allow you inside for a look if you ask.

Storm 10

EchoIndia wrote: »

This is quite a good video of an An-12 operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i721IEIGDsU

Very cool pilot his face has not changed in the whole video guess he is well used the flying this aircraft

Bonzo Delaney

When's the next one due.

Oscar Bravo

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

When's the next one due.

UR-CNT (AN 12) over London now inbound Shannon. Should pass over the Wexford area

Snowc

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

When's the next one due.

I hope you don't work for that "news" site

road_high

Surely it would be much noisier and noticeable around the limerick Clare Tipp areas when coming in for landing?

road_high

She’s just coming in near Wexford now if anyone down that way...looks like it’ll skirt across over south Tipp and into SNN

Tenger

Snowc wrote: »

I hope you don't work for that "news" site

Very much looks like a 1-2 person blog site.

Salmon Leap

Article is a steaming pile of p**. I've lived in Leixlip for almost 20 years and never been woken by any aircraft other than the Copper Chopper searching somewhere near the canal.

Zirconia

I live in the Midlands and AN12 going over at cruising altitude here does create a noticeable racket; far noisier than other aircraft and enough to cause harmonic oscillations of household fixtures and fittings.
I verified the aircraft type on multiple occasions after being disturbed via the Flightradar24 app.

Bonzo Delaney

Snowc wrote: »

I hope you don't work for that "news" site

No just live in the north Kildare area
Only woke me up once must of been directly over head
But it's be great to be awake to hear it approaching if I knew in advance

eusap

On the 08/03 March a AN112 UR-CGV Flew over Clane/Prosperous/Allen around 00:30 it actually sounded like an Artic Truck driving by the front window for 45 secs. It was a very clear night so I guess didn't help with Noise.

Being a plane nut I had to look it up to see what it was, anyone know what they are carrying?

RadioRetro

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

UR-CNT (AN 12) over London now inbound Shannon. Should pass over the Wexford area

Oh boy did it ever. About 9.20pm.

road_high

How often does she fly into SNN? Would love to catch a glimpse and hear her

gman2k

I was hoping to catch it, but of course when I remembered it was about 20min too late!
Let me know if there is another due!

Stovepipe

eusap wrote: »

On the 08/03 March a AN112 UR-CGV Flew over Clane/Prosperous/Allen around 00:30 it actually sounded like an Artic Truck driving by the front window for 45 secs. It was a very clear night so I guess didn't help with Noise.

Being a plane nut I had to look it up to see what it was, anyone know what they are carrying?

The last one I was in was on a horse contract. the ramp makes it easy to get horses aboard.

LeChienMefiant

Stovepipe wrote: »

The last one I was in was on a horse contract. the ramp makes it easy to get horses aboard.

Horses must love the noise!

martinsvi

Stovepipe wrote: »

Bose headsets are top of the range and expensive. Russian (insert eastern european nationality) aircrew tend not to have them, as a result, as they also tend to be underpaid compared to Western airline crews. Antonov 12 crews tend to look like sheepherders. An An 12 that attended Dublin lately had the crew sleeping inside; the refueller had to wake them to get them to set up the fuel system for topping up.

regards
Stovepipe

An-24 pilot pay these days go for around 12-18k a month in Africa. There are not that many pilots around anymore for these aircraft, so the salaries are going up. They are definitely not underpaid.. They just have a certain "life-style"

roundymac

Is that the Twat of a TD Murphy that tried to get Weston shut down?

rameire

LeChienMefiant wrote: »

Horses must love the noise!

The horses wear Bose headsets.

AlekSmart

roundymac wrote: »

Is that the Twat of a TD Murphy that tried to get Weston shut down?

I wonder if TV presenter Alan Partridge could organise a fly-in of as many elderly Eastern European Turbo-Props as possible....centre the event over the Curragh and fan out from there...preferably with a midnight,full-power group flypast ....just a thought ?

Oscar Bravo

AN 12,UR-CEZ just departed Shannon.should pass over midlands and dublin soon.

john boye

Unbelievable sound considering it's at fl220

gman2k

On enroute to Shannon right now, just flew over south KK, unreal volume for 28k feet

road_high

In north Kilkenny here and could hear the humm miles off! She’s going to Shannon now

gman2k

Newcastle West and Foynes will soon be deafened

mlumley

Would'nt bother me, it's the bl**dy bin men at 5.30 in the morning I cant stand.