Import car with no V5

rugbyman

Chaps, thought I would find my answer on here, but cannot find answer.

What is the situation to import a car with no v5 from the Uk.
car was cat c damage, I understand that UK does not do cert of permanent exports anymore.
On DVLA website it suggests I contact my office of import and they will tell me.

Anybody here know?

Thanks

rugbyman

sorry ,posted twice

bazz26

You need the v5c. Why hasn't the seller applied for a new v5c?

Cee-Jay-Cee

The rules have changed since the beginning of the year and sellers in the UK are advised to return the V5 to the DVLA and the DVLA are no longer issuing certs of permanent export so your royally screwed if you haven't got one along with the car.

Best advice is, if the seller doesn't have the V5 or isn't willing to hand it over along with the car then walk away, there are plenty of other cars to chose from.

Marcusm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

The rules have changed since the beginning of the year and sellers in the UK are advised to return the V5 to the DVLA and the DVLA are no longer issuing certs of permanent export so your royally screwed if you haven't got one along with the car.

Best advice is, if the seller doesn't have the V5 or isn't willing to hand it over along with the car then walk away, there are plenty of other cars to chose from.

The instructions are no longer as clearly stated and the process has slightly changed but the UK instruction is still to give the v5c (now minus the export slip) to the foreign buyer.

See the link
https://www.gov.uk/responsibilities-selling-vehicle

rugbyman

any more suggestions, fellow Boardsies

Thank you for the link Marcusm

CJC I already bought the car

Bazz, bought it off a salvage website , they don't handle tax books

Thanks

Poor Farmer in the hills

If I import a car tomorrow from the UK and cant get an appointment to VRT it until April and there is a crash out brexit at the end of March could i be liable for the 20% tariff on diesels?

CiniO

Not really related to OP's case, but just as an interesting fact.

In Ireland sellers seem to be way more wary of selling to foreigner for export and handing down logbook.
80% of sellers wouldn't even answer a phone-call from foreign number, and even if they did, even those who do, are not happy to hand down a logbook to buyer from abroad.

Squidgy Black

CiniO wrote: »

Not really related to OP's case, but just as an interesting fact.

In Ireland sellers seem to be way more wary of selling to foreigner for export and handing down logbook.
80% of sellers wouldn't even answer a phone-call from foreign number, and even if they did, even those who do, are not happy to hand down a logbook to buyer from abroad.

Because the process of selling an Irish car to someone who is exporting it, is different to the UK. We don't have a slip to send off to mark the car as exported and out of our ownership, you have to send the full logbook off in the post. Otherwise you hand the logbook over and have no recourse if the buyer doesn't export the car and it's still sat there registered in your name.

"Exporting your vehicle
If you are selling your vehicle to a person resident outside the State, you must send the Vehicle Registration Certificate and the purchaser’s name and address details to the Driver and Vehicle Computer Services Division. They will assist the authorities in the purchaser’s state with vehicle details.

The record of your vehicle on the National Vehicle and Driver File will continue to be recorded in your name until confirmation is received from the authorities in the purchaser’s state that the car has been imported into that country and registered there."

R.O.R

rugbyman wrote: »

any more suggestions, fellow Boardsies

Thank you for the link Marcusm

CJC I already bought the car

Bazz, bought it off a salvage website , they don't handle tax books

Thanks

Honestly, if you don't have the V5 you are fcuked!

The only way around it is to transfer the ownership to someone in the UK, to get a new VLC issued.


I share an office with someone who solely looks after UK imports and one of the V5's went missing on the way over, so we're having to get it re-registered to someone in the UK so they can get a new V5 to send over. Revenue won't accept anything else apart from the UK V5 so that's the only way to do it.

CiniO

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Because the process of selling an Irish car to someone who is exporting it, is different to the UK.

It's no different.
It's pretty much same all over Europe.
If you're buying a car for export, you have to take registration cert with you to register it in your own country. Applies to buying in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Poland, etc...

Only difference is that most countries have system of unregistering vehicles sold for export, while UK and Ireland don't.
But still this makes us no different to UK.

We don't have a slip to send off to mark the car as exported and out of our ownership,

If you mean export slip off V5C that's not for that purpose anyway. If UK resident owner sells his car to Irish buyer, gives him V5C, and sends off export slip to DVLA, then nothing happens anyway. Car is not out of his name anyway exactly same as in Ireland.

you have to send the full logbook off in the post. Otherwise you hand the logbook over and have no recourse if the buyer doesn't export the car and it's still sat there registered in your name.

I agree that's a problem, but there is no other way of selling a car to foreign buyer for export.
If you don't give them a logbook (reg cert) then they are not going to buy the car, period.

"Exporting your vehicle
If you are selling your vehicle to a person resident outside the State, you must send the Vehicle Registration Certificate and the purchaser’s name and address details to the Driver and Vehicle Computer Services Division. They will assist the authorities in the purchaser’s state with vehicle details.

The record of your vehicle on the National Vehicle and Driver File will continue to be recorded in your name until confirmation is received from the authorities in the purchaser’s state that the car has been imported into that country and registered there."

This info is from emails which Shannon used to send with various information when you enquired.
Unfortuntaely info is not correct.

Isambard

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Because the process of selling an Irish car to someone who is exporting it, is different to the UK. We don't have a slip to send off to mark the car as exported and out of our ownership, you have to send the full logbook off in the post. Otherwise you hand the logbook over and have no recourse if the buyer doesn't export the car and it's still sat there registered in your name.

"Exporting your vehicle
If you are selling your vehicle to a person resident outside the State, you must send the Vehicle Registration Certificate and the purchaser’s name and address details to the Driver and Vehicle Computer Services Division. They will assist the authorities in the purchaser’s state with vehicle details.

The record of your vehicle on the National Vehicle and Driver File will continue to be recorded in your name until confirmation is received from the authorities in the purchaser’s state that the car has been imported into that country and registered there."

you're wrong I think,. The slip on the UK V5C is for the registered owner to export the car. The DVLA state an owner should hand the whole V5C to a foreign buyer and then inform them in a letter of it's sale.

zoom_cool

What about GDPR the V5c has details of previous owner. The DVLA could get into trouble all do with Brexit might not be a problem :-)

CiniO

zoom_cool wrote: »

What about GDPR the V5c has details of previous owner. The DVLA could get into trouble all do with Brexit might not be a problem :-)

Buying a car in any EU country with intention of exporting to another country warrants a need of seller passing registartion document to buyer. And those documents always have owner details.
So I can't see how V5C would be different or had to do anything with GDPR.

steven1987

R.O.R wrote: »

Honestly, if you don't have the V5 you are fcuked!

The only way around it is to transfer the ownership to someone in the UK, to get a new VLC issued.


I share an office with someone who solely looks after UK imports and one of the V5's went missing on the way over, so we're having to get it re-registered to someone in the UK so they can get a new V5 to send over. Revenue won't accept anything else apart from the UK V5 so that's the only way to do it.

I have this problem (Re Registering)

I actually applied for the cert of export in which this was withdrawn they marked it for export,

I tried getting someone in the UK to reapply for the v5 but now it needs to be re registered in the UK.

What a joke this is I have no one to do this for me all I need is the cert of export to register in Ireland I really dont know why they stopped issuing them it's silly even they could put a 25 pound charge like they did for a replacement v5c

Esel

Maybe an address in NI?

Isambard

Esel wrote: »

Maybe an address in NI?

makes no odds, it's been marked as for export, so he has to re-import it to get a new V5C. Any UK address is what he needs.

Esel

My point was that the process would be much easier/cheaper if done in NI rather than in GB.

Dexterd

hi, i am just wondering how did you get on with this as im in the same boat?
any help be appreciated

Batman1irish

Still same car sitting in garden gona try sell on cheap or try trade it In up the north anyone living up there get a v5 handy just have to make it worth there while.its a joke
Willing to pay and won’t have any of it revenue say get on to dvla they say it’s up to your country to tell how to register the car.it would nearly be worth renting a house and charging a fee to help everyone 😂😂

Isambard

or just make sure people don't import cars with no paperwork. mad thing to do really, a car could be stolen or a write off.