Will television survive?

Monkeynut

I have 2 sons. One 8 the other 4.
They do not know is what rte is.
Only that the late late toy show is on once a year.
I barely watch television only the football.
Is anyone else in the predicament?
How will TV continue?

Like seriously, if everyone is watching streams and the what not. how will any channel manage!!

feargale

Monkeynut wrote: »

I have 2 sons. One 8 the other 4. They do not know is what rte is. Only thar the late late toy show is on once a year. I barely watch television only the football. Is anyone else in the predicament? How will TV continue?

Will football survive?

Monkeynut

feargale wrote: »

Will football survive?

well its acting now, but you know what i mean.

I would download a television.

kneemos

Telly on demand.

buried

Nope. I listened to the European cup matches during the week on the interwebz radio broadcast and was just as what I saw the day afterwards on the youtube highlights. Was better craic too

pleas advice

video killed the radio star

kneemos

pleas advice wrote: »

video killed the radio star

Music videos were great. Do they even make them anymore?

pleas advice

kneemos wrote: »

Music videos were great. Do they even make them anymore?

i don't know, i think it's all 'lyric' videos on youtube now, or has that fad passed? I know a drake video became a meme...

Lorelli!

I hope it does. Tv imo is more social. Couch potato has taken on a new level. Years ago you had to watch what was on and you only had so many channels so you all watched it together, you compromised and you anticipated programmes.

Monkeynut

Lorelli! wrote: »

I hope it does. Tv imo is more social. Couch potato has taken on a new level. Years ago you had to watch what was on and you only had so many channels so you all watched it together, you compromised and you anticipated programmes.

teletext 180 used to tell you whats on now remember?

well it still does!!!

pleas advice

backspin. wrote: »

Is this a sh*t replies competition?

seems to be all-right
:rolleyes:

Monkeynut

pleas advice wrote: »

seems to be all-right
:rolleyes:

its the sh*te replies competition. please don't confuse with the sh*t replies competition.


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the management

greencap

Yes, there will continue to be a 'main screen'.

There is a need for a central screen for group gawping at low quality nonsense, and for viewing each others boring cringey pointless recordings and photos.

The tv screen will just adapt to information tech, so smart-tv's doubling as computers.

tl;dr hybrid computer-televisions will become the norm. youtube, amazon, etc, and desktop apps on the big screen in your sitting room.

Grayson

Lorelli! wrote: »

I hope it does. Tv imo is more social. Couch potato has taken on a new level. Years ago you had to watch what was on and you only had so many channels so you all watched it together, you compromised and you anticipated programmes.

It also meant that every kid in the country was stuck with Glenroe on a Sunday night. And remember that weird 15 minute period where only songs of praise was on.

Lorelli!

Monkeynut wrote: »

teletext 180 used to tell you whats on now remember?

well it still does!!!

It only told what was on but you couldn't pick and choose when to watch it!

I remember teletext very well! Bamboozle!!

Lorelli!

Grayson wrote: »

It also meant that every kid in the country was stuck with Glenroe on a Sunday night. And remember that weird 15 minute period where only songs of praise was on.

My parents only went through a small phase of watching glenroe although the music still does give me the fear of going to school the next day and that the weekend was over

One eyed Jack

Monkeynut wrote: »

I have 2 sons. One 8 the other 4.
They do not know is what rte is.
Only that the late late toy show is on once a year.
I barely watch television only the football.
Is anyone else in the predicament?
How will TV continue?

Like seriously, if everyone is watching streams and the what not. how will any channel manage!!

The channels will have catch-up streams as well as live tv channels options. I recently got in Sky Q which has the apps like Netflix, YouTube and Spotify all integrated into a sort of a “hub” as it were, with the live channels and the catch-up tv services. It’s all a fairly seamless experience, and that’s exactly the point - broadcast channels will still make their revenue from advertising as they always did, and premium services will make their money from subscriptions, as they always did.

TVs themselves won’t be going anywhere any time soon either even given the rise in popularity of viewing content on mobile devices, there’s still a huge market for bigger screens, thinner TVs, higher definition etc. They’re still generally the centrepiece in many people’s living rooms.

branie2

I still like TV

Avatar MIA

pleas advice wrote: »

video killed the radio star

OD killed the video star

Tacklebox

I just watch for dust now on my TV.

Drumpot

Monkeynut wrote: »

teletext 180 used to tell you whats on now remember?

well it still does!!!

I remember watching football scores flashing between 3 pages on teletext. You’d always be waiting for the page to refresh to your team... You don’t get that drama these days!!!

Ubbquittious

Avatar MIA wrote: »

OD killed the video star

Heroin? coke?

Avatar MIA

branie2 wrote: »

I still like TV

I love lamp.

Seeing as we're sharing.

Avatar MIA

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Heroin? coke?

It works on multiple levels

LazerShark

I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the OP's question. It's not whether we will still own physical screens in our living rooms, it's pretty obvious that we will. It's whether the channels like RTE and Virgin (and to a lesser extent BBC - much bigger market and license fee) can survive to provide for the box in the face of competition from digital.

My own feeling is that while most things that TV channels do is now being done better on subscription services like Netflix and Amazon Video, there is still a massive market for news and sport with some local entertainment (like the Toy Show) on live TV, so that's why we'll continue to have live local Irish channels.

Of concern for TV channels would be the recent development of Amazon moving into live sport in America, and matches are among the highest-viewed programming on Irish television. It's possible we could be watching our Premier League, GAA or Six Nation games on Netflix or something similar in the years to come, which would shrink the usefulness of our local stations to just news and The Late Late Show.

fryup

i'm watching TV more than ever to be honest, loads of channels loads of choice

*any of you live in two channel land back in the day? thats right kids there was a time in this country we had only two TV channels

Avatar MIA

fryup wrote: »

i'm watching TV more than ever to be honest, loads of channels loads of choice

*any of you live in two channel land back in the day? thats right kids there was a time in this country we had only two TV channels

There was even a time, so the legend goes, that there was only one :eek:

orourkeda1977

There used to be a band called pop will eat itself.

T.V is currently eating itself.

The standard of content has clearly decreased and shpws no signs of recovery

there was also a band called Television (check out Marquee Moon album)


I think that TV as we knew it, is almost dead. About 15 years ago I realised that there was no point in having a TV because I could watch DVDs on the laptop, and there were so many great films I hadn't seen. 2 hours in the evening after work was plenty of screen time for me.

If I really want to watch a game, I'll go to the local, and that might be 4 times per year, that would cost me about €150 - €160 ..... theres the price of the license.

Now lets have a look at what we get for our money:

Monday 11th RTE1

06:40 Teleshopping

07:15 My Kitchen Rules: Australia

08:10 Today

10:05 The Ellen DeGeneres Show

11:00 Dr Phil

11:55 Shortland Street

12:25 Doctors

13:00 News

13:30 Home and Away

14:00 Neighbours

14:30 Eastenders

15:00 Fair City

15:30 Today

17:40 Nuacht

18:00 Angelus

Franz Von Peppercorn

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

There used to be a band called pop will eat itself.

T.V is currently eating itself.

The standard of content has clearly decreased and shpws no signs of recovery

Has it? The standard of TV, if you include streaming, is clearly much higher than the 80’s and most of the 90’s. Even if you don’t, it probably is higher. Better direction, camera work, acting and scripting.

Avatar MIA

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

There used to be a band called pop will eat itself.

T.V is currently eating itself.

The standard of content has clearly decreased and shpws no signs of recovery

You do know this is considered the golden age of TV, where once A list stars avoided tv series they now have household names.

Irish Guitarist

I bought a Roku a couple of years ago. I watch television but it's internet content being broadcast on a television screen. In the last two years I think I've watched less than 20 hours of traditional telly.

Having said that I'm now running out of decent stuff to watch on Netflix and it's not that easy to get any other internet channels in Ireland. I got a free trial of Amazon Video a couple of years ago and I think there was something like three titles available. I don't know if it's improved any since then.

paleoperson

Streams versus channels? They're the same thing except one is specified as through the internet. IPTV is based on streams but it's considered tv. I have IPTV as well as satellite, terrestrial, vod and a usb drive. I can flick to an one of them and there's very little difference between any of them.

sk8erboii

greencap wrote: »

Yes, there will continue to be a 'main screen'.

There is a need for a central screen for group gawping at low quality nonsense, and for viewing each others boring cringey pointless recordings and photos.

The tv screen will just adapt to information tech, so smart-tv's doubling as computers.

tl;dr hybrid computer-televisions will become the norm. youtube, amazon, etc, and desktop apps on the big screen in your sitting room.

thats literally how it is already

what new TV isnt a smart TV these days?

sk8erboii

lmao @ old lads thinking TV is dead

Its adapted to the new age, gramps. We've more content and more viewers and its better than ever

arybvtcw0eolkf

If I didn't have a TV in my house I wouldn't miss it. Its only used for Netflix and the International Judo Federation puts their competitions on youtube in HD so its nice to watch that.

Other than that everything is streamed to my laptop or phone.

Will the laptop kill the home desktop computer?.

paleoperson

sk8erboii wrote: »

thats literally how it is already

what new TV isnt a smart TV these days?

You don't need a smart TV, you need a good receiver. I've been using my vu+ solo2 for the past ~5 years to do all the above, you can watch youtube and other stuff on it as well. I would have no use for a smart tv.

sk8erboii

paleoperson wrote: »

You don't need a smart TV, you need a good receiver. I've been using my vu+ solo2 for the past ~5 years to do all the above, you can watch youtube and other stuff on it as well. I would have no use for a smart tv.

This the one?

http://sat-planet.ie/satellite-tv/receivers/vu-solo2-linux-satellite-receiver-100-original

You can buy a smart TV for that price man. Would you not just use the money to buy a 4k HDR smart TV?

paleoperson

sk8erboii wrote: »

This the one?

http://sat-planet.ie/satellite-tv/receivers/vu-solo2-linux-satellite-receiver-100-original

You can buy a smart TV for that price man. Would you not just use the money to buy a 4k HDR smart TV?

Well first of all like I said I bought mine about 5 years ago when it was pretty much the same price. There are newer models now and obviously they do 4k and are better. I actually got a black market chinese clone knockoff so it was even cheaper again - around the €200 mark.

Secondly, you'll definitely have no satellite receiver which is a big part of the value of the vu. Satellite is great for switching channels without delay or as a backup for if you're skint or your IPTV gets cut-off. IPTV is never completely reliable and the picture quality is noticeably worse. I looked around for IPTV on smart tvs and yes apparently it can be done but these boxes have linux systems where you can do everything at a low level. For example you can set up radio stations that have an internet stream to appear as channels.

Also there's a lot of ram and processor speed in the boxes that can't be in the smart tv so easily, like what is speed and ram of it? It can't be that good as there's been a bottleneck in computers in recent years and ram/speed increases are not very good.

Does it have how you have one channel on in the corner while browsing through the epgs of others? I couldn't ever live without that. Does it have instantaneous switching, recording a few different channels at a time, playing files off your computer over wifi, files you're recording appearing on your computer drive over wifi, etc. Can it play all file and stream types? I severely doubt it can do all of that just as quick, something is going to give somewhere. I've had boxes before that would freeze or just be kind of slow in switching.

sk8erboii

paleoperson wrote: »

Well first of all like I said I bought mine about 5 years ago when it was pretty much the same price. There are newer models now and obviously they do 4k and are better. I actually got a black market chinese clone knockoff so it was even cheaper again - around the €200 mark.

Secondly, you'll definitely have no satellite receiver which is a big part of the value of the vu. Satellite is great for switching channels without delay or as a backup for if you're skint or your IPTV gets cut-off. IPTV is never completely reliable and the picture quality is noticeably worse. I looked around for IPTV on smart tvs and yes apparently it can be done but these boxes have linux systems where you can do everything at a low level. For example you can set up radio stations that have an internet stream to appear as channels.

Also there's a lot of ram and processor speed in the boxes that can't be in the smart tv so easily, like what is speed and ram of it? It can't be that good as there's been a bottleneck in computers in recent years and ram/speed increases are not very good.

Does it have how you have one channel on in the corner while browsing through the epgs of others? I couldn't ever live without that. Does it have instantaneous switching, recording a few different channels at a time, playing files off your computer over wifi, files you're recording appearing on your computer drive over wifi, etc. Can it play all file and stream types? I severely doubt it can do all of that just as quick, something is going to give somewhere. I've had boxes before that would freeze or just be kind of slow in switching.

I know nothing about satellite TVs man. But to give an answer, my smart TV streams 4K content from the web with no hiccups. I imagine its also of higher bit rate than satellite TV

greencap

sk8erboii wrote: »

thats literally how it is already

what new TV isnt a smart TV these days?

i dont know, i don't have a smart tv. :eek:

r93kaey5p2izun

My tv service is being switched off on Monday and has been significantly reduced for the past few months already. Thought I'd miss my lost channels more than I actually do. I tried the Netflix trial but there was little I'd be bothered with. I will probably just make do with the rte and Virgin Media players. I wish you could even pay for access to the bbc iplayer for their drama content. Most people seem to watch more tv than ever now though so I don't think it's dying, just adapting.

paleoperson

sk8erboii wrote: »

I know nothing about satellite TVs man. But to give an answer, my smart TV streams 4K content from the web with no hiccups. I imagine its also of higher bit rate than satellite TV

You can "imagine" all you want but there is no way it could be of anything approaching satellite bitrate. The satellite bitrate is set by the channel. When you stream anything, even SD, it will invariably be of a lower bitrate than satellite because bandwidth is so costly. That's a main advantage of satellite and why watching sports from internet streams is bad by comparison.

Even if you somehow in Ireland have the ability to stream 4k like that they wouldn't have it at that high a quality for the majority.

Balanadan

I’ve lived for large parts of my adult life without a tv and never missed it in the slightest. Too busy to watch it. There’s never much on anyway to be honest about it. Unless you make it a social event by watching a series together, it can act as a barrier to communication.

sk8erboii

paleoperson wrote: »

You can "imagine" all you want but there is no way it could be of anything approaching satellite bitrate. The satellite bitrate is set by the channel. When you stream anything, even SD, it will invariably be of a lower bitrate than satellite because bandwidth is so costly. That's a main advantage of satellite and why watching sports from internet streams is bad by comparison.

Even if you somehow in Ireland have the ability to stream 4k like that they wouldn't have it at that high a quality for the majority.

Dunno what you mean, 4K streaming is pretty standard nowadays. Maybe not for everyone but 150 Mbps does me fine for netflix.

You reckon 1080p on satellite is better than 4k streaming?

sk8erboii

greencap wrote: »

i dont know, i don't have a smart tv. :eek:

I can get you free satellite TV if you want (;

Lord Glentoran

Yes it will. As long as there is BBC Four and most of BBC Two.

FrancieBrady

River Colossal Ruby wrote: »

My tv service is being switched off on Monday and has been significantly reduced for the past few months already. Thought I'd miss my lost channels more than I actually do. I tried the Netflix trial but there was little I'd be bothered with. I will probably just make do with the rte and Virgin Media players. I wish you could even pay for access to the bbc iplayer for their drama content. Most people seem to watch more tv than ever now though so I don't think it's dying, just adapting.

I have an add-on for Chrome browser that allows me to watch iPlayer. I am almost sure it is legal but won't post the link to it here, just in case. PM me if you want a link to it.

Re; the future of telly. I regularly have the house full of teenager friends of my kids and none of them watch telly - ever.
Serious problems for television execs in the future imo.

JDxtra

Ads on pay TV and standard definition channels are adding to its downfall. Netflix and other streaming service win hands down in terms of quality.

Saorview is a joke, very poor quality broadcast standards and a lack of content.

JDxtra

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I have an add-on for Chrome browser that allows me to watch iPlayer. I am almost sure it is legal but won't post the link to it here

It's not.