Who's your favourite at debating?

Tacklebox

Personally I like watching or listening Milo Yiannopoulos, he's very funny and hits the target.

Ben Shapiro can be a good banter too.

Chanty Binx puts on a great show, I don't think I'd be able to handle her.

My favourite would probably be Christopher Hitches, he really had his facts right along with good wit and knock out potential.

Charles Ingles

Gavin McInnes is good very rarely losses a debate.
Him and Jessie Ventura was a great debate.
Stephen Crowder also very good

frag420

I like when lots of people debate in church on a Sunday...

Gotta love those massdebators!!

super_furry

Hi new person!

I like ** random alt-right figure ** and don't like dem damn ES-JAY-DUBYAS!

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pablohoney87

Sam Harris.

Any of the right wingers who have made their name destroying bad arguments like Crowder, Shapiro etc. would be eaten alive by him.

Very interesting listening to Jordan Peterson sound out of his depth for the first time in a public discussion when speaking with Harris.

Wanderer78

Any liberal lefty

greencap

George Galloway was a good orator in his time.

Assfcked the US senate en masse, in their own house.

Ipso

Who ever is good at skwering, destroying, lambasting or whatever click bait title is popular.

Ipso

greencap wrote: »

George Galloway was a good orator in his time.

Assfcked the US congress en masse, in their own house.

Just a pity he ass kissed Saddam Hussein and is a true believer socialist.

lbc2019

Winston Churchill was a fine orator


Or are we plugging our mates podcasts?

gypsy79

Milo is awesome

Roger Hassenforder

super_furry wrote: »

Hi new person!

I like ** random alt-right figure ** and don't like dem damn ES-JAY-DUBYAS!

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Christoper Hitchens.... Alt Right?

For gods sake man.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I love the gay Jewish classical liberal Dave Rubin. (Makes it funny when wackjobs label him a nazi.)

He came out of TYT so knows regressive leftism like the back of his hand. Knowing how your enemy thinks and works is crucial in debate.

RWCNT

Destiny off YouTube is pretty good IMO.

Have to say I hate this trend that's emerged of titling videos "X destroys Liberal with facts/Y calmly Dismantles sjw with reason/Z impregnated triggered leftist with his logic-cock". Half the time when you watch the vids nobody is getting "destroyed" and its just people discussing things like civilised people. The goal of debate shouldn't be to destroy anyone.

mcmoustache

Tacklebox wrote: »

Personally I like watching or listening Milo Yiannopoulos, he's very funny and hits the target.

Ben Shapiro can be a good banter too.

Chanty Binx puts on a great show, I don't think I'd be able to handle her.

My favourite would probably be Christopher Hitches, he really had his facts right along with good wit and knock out potential.

You almost got me there. Fair play.

RWCNT

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Christoper Hitchens.... Alt Right?

For gods sake man.

I don't complain about this much as it usually turns up in threads where there's other stuff I'd rather discuss but I ****ing hate everyone being described as "alt right" these days. Alt rightists want to create an all-white ethnostate, they're fascist nutters and as far as I'm aware, there's very few of them.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Ipso wrote: »

Just a pity he ass kissed Saddam Hussein and is a true believer socialist.

It’s precisely because he “ass kissed” Saddam that he is a great un.

Are there still people who think that was a good war?

mcmoustache

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Sam Harris.

Any of the right wingers who have made their name destroying bad arguments like Crowder, Shapiro etc. would be eaten alive by him.

Very interesting listening to Jordan Peterson sound out of his depth for the first time in a public discussion when speaking with Harris.

Harris should not even be mentioned in the same breath as those other chancers.

Harris is a knowledgeable and very intelligent man. The others who you mentioned are little more than grifters who use cheap debating tricks that impress the kinds of incels who wouldn't know a good debate if it jizzed in their face after selling them health supplements.

The Highwayman

Ben Shapiro can buy and sell most people. That man should run for office in the US.

Dr. Jordan Peterson, naturally.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Harris has never seemed that brilliant to me.

The Highwayman

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Harris has never seemed that brilliant to me.

He's great on religion

super_furry

If we're going to do this seriously, then Stephen Fry is great as is Michael D.

Boom_Bap

Bosco, nobody could put him back in his box.

Junkyard Tom

There are a number of people on YouTube who carefully deconstruct the utter bullshit those reactionary clowns [Hitchens excepted] pass off as reasoned debate.

Here are two pretty good ones.

Shaun

Three Arrows

mcmoustache

Has nobody bothered to google the name on that list that you hadn't heard of?

Or are you all in on this without me?

Franz Von Peppercorn

The Highwayman wrote: »

He's great on religion

That’s a pretty easy one.

super_furry

mcmoustache wrote: »

Has nobody bothered to google the name on that list that you hadn't heard of?

Or are you all in on this without me?

She was an early hate figure for the MRA crowd because of some mad video rant about 10 years ago. More of a meme type character these days as I don't think there's been anything from her in years.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/big-red

Junkyard Tom

The Highwayman wrote: »

Ben Shapiro can buy and sell most people. That man should run for office in the US.

Dr. Jordan Peterson, naturally.

His political stuff is pulled apart by the Zero Books channel on YouTube who he's been avoiding debate with for a long time now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGld3FbDY6s

ArchXStanton

super_furry wrote: »

She was an early hate figure for the MRA crowd because of some mad video rant about 10 years ago. More of a meme type character these days as I don't think there's been anything from her in years.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/big-red

PAYYY-TREEEE-ARCHYY

she came across as vile, even the sound of her voice

RWCNT

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

There are a number of people on YouTube who carefully deconstruct the utter bullshit those reactionary clowns [Hitchens excepted] pass off as reasoned debate.

Here are two pretty good ones.

Shaun

Three Arrows

I'm a fan of both of these but in fairness they do response videos as opposed to live debates.

All the lads who love the right wing arguing in bad faith types - have any of you seen Jesse Lee Peterson? I could watch him "debate" all day, comedy genius.

Necro

I myself am a masterdebater. World class one too.

Junkyard Tom

RWCNT wrote: »

I'm a fan of both of these but in fairness they do response videos as opposed to live debates.

A lot of those people make good money from their social media presence and big ticket events so wouldn't be well disposed to being shown up. Also, I don't think back-and-forth debate lends itself too well to deconstructing another person's points.

Woke Hogan

Jordan Peterson is not a public intellectual. A public intellectual would release more than two books in a twenty year period, and neither of them would be pop psychology self help books for useless geeks looking for a father figure. He's the Canadian Dr Phil.

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Junkyard Tom wrote: »

A lot of those people make good money from their social media presence and big ticket events so wouldn't be well disposed to being shown up.

Peterson was making near $1m per year on just on Patreon before he quit it.
Plus money for his "shows" (you'd think Borris Johnson money)
Presumably there's other revenue streams.

If I was making that kind of cash I'd play it safe as well.

Your Face

George Hook

o1s1n

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Jordan Peterson is not a public intellectual. A public intellectual would release more than two books in a twenty year period, and neither of them would be pop psychology self help books for useless geeks looking for a father figure. He's the Canadian Dr Phil.

He knows what he's doing and caters for a very specific type of young male who laps him up.

I've a few mates who bring him up constantly as if they're under the enchantment of David Koresh, it's embarrassing.

Junkyard Tom

retro:electro wrote: »

Wibbs

I heard he shouted at a cat once.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

RWCNT wrote: »

I don't complain about this much as it usually turns up in threads where there's other stuff I'd rather discuss but I ****ing hate everyone being described as "alt right" these days. Alt rightists want to create an all-white ethnostate, they're fascist nutters and as far as I'm aware, there's very few of them.

The labelling of anyone you don't agree with using the catch all term alt right is lazy at best.

Auntie Semite

Many mentioned here are hardly Alt Right
For example Jordan Peterson is despised by the Alt Right

Christopher Hitchens was a master of debate.
Peter Hitchens is a great debater.
Sam Harris
Camille Paglia (personal favourite)

Tim Pool who I wouldn't regard as a debater as such did extremely well versus Jack Dorsey of twitter on Joe Rogan last night.

Nick Fuentes pretty good for someone so young.
J F Gariepy
Vox Day

Not nessecarily endorsing all the characters above just enjoy listening to them.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Of all the people mentioned I think Hitchens was in fact the greatest charlatan, and in fact had the most destructive effect.

Church on Tuesday

Anthony Fantano.

Don't agree with all of his opinions regarding music but the man is very well informed in general matters.

He destroyed that idiot Paul Joseph Watson.

orourkeda1977

greencap wrote: »

George Galloway was a good orator in his time.

Assfcked the US senate en masse, in their own house.

Bosco could have done that.

Roger Hassenforder

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Of all the people mentioned I think Hitchens was in fact the greatest charlatan, and in fact had the most destructive effect.

You gonna elaborate?



Indeed!

Galwayguy35

Ian O Doherty.

That's why you rarely see him on RTE any more because he destroys the lefties on the panel in minutes.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

You gonna elaborate?



Indeed!

What’s the point of that picture?

Hitchens was a major supporter of the iraq war, his historical knowledge was weak to say the least, and he was banging the drums for more wars (Iran for instance) towards the end.

Junkyard Tom

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Ian O Doherty.

Badly Drunk Boy

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Christoper Hitchens.... Alt Right?

For gods sake man.

He mightn't be Alt Right but he was Oft Wrong...

Auntie Semite

Angela Nagle is great (Irish too)

Jimmy Dore

Roger Scruton

lbc2019

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Ian O Doherty.

That's why you rarely see him on RTE any more because he destroys the lefties on the panel in minutes.

Lolz

Yer Da sells Avon

Tacklebox wrote: »

My favourite would probably be Christopher Hitches, he really had his facts right along with good wit and knock out potential.

The ultimate charlatan. A social-climbing arse-licker with a decent turn of phrase. I prefer his brother. At least his views - as batshit as some of them may be - are sincerely held.

Church on Tuesday

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

You gonna elaborate?



Indeed!

er, not sure why my I'm underlined, I'm not particularly religious if that's what your getting at in spite of the user name