DoneDeal scammer

littlevillage

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-agreed-to-sell-stolen-cars-for-almost-90k-on-donedeal-court-told-37882173.html


I have one question here ... How did this guy get hold of the registration documents for stolen cars ?

The thieves hardly stole the registration certs too ?

and

If the cars were reported to Gardai as stolen then the Motor Registration people in Shannon surely wouldn't send out a 'replacement' cert, right ?

teediddlyeye

You'd be surprised how many people keep their reg cert in the car.

See it all the time in work go for the service book and there's the vlc.
Wouldn't be too much bother to fill it out in my own name then order a key from a dealer with the paperwork in my name rock up to the address given and away with the car!

Don't keep your reg cert in the car!!!

Squidgy Black

littlevillage wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-agreed-to-sell-stolen-cars-for-almost-90k-on-donedeal-court-told-37882173.html


I have one question here ... How did this guy get hold of the registration documents for stolen cars ?

The thieves hardly stole the registration certs too ?

and

If the cars were reported to Gardai as stolen then the Motor Registration people in Shannon surely wouldn't send out a 'replacement' cert, right ?

Probably fake logbooks. I'd say the people who bought them never received a new logbook, they more than likely signed the fake one and he said he would post it off and that was that.

littlevillage

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Probably fake logbooks. I'd say the people who bought them never received a new logbook, they more than likely signed the fake one and he said he would post it off and that was that.

You are probably right, how many people really study the log book in detail when they are buying a car :rolleyes:

(Personally, I do...in fact I have asked to see log book first thing, before even sitting into a car....got caught out by a few fibs sellers told me in the past regarding number of previously owners, vehicle details etc.)

But at the same time ... if buyers signed a fake log book without doing there proper checking.. then they have to shoulder a certain amount of the blame.

I wonder how was this dude caught in the end ? I presume one of the buyers rang up Shannon and enquired about missing tax book etc... or cops pulled over one of the stolen cars??

w211

They got only the lowest "rank" guy, the real criminals are still there!!! Honestly the current car buying system support the criminals, because nobody does not check the real car. Many other countries have a system, where are necessary to show the car for NCT or similar facility.

I am not surprised if most of the Irish car buyers even do not know what are the VIN number and where it locating on the car. Too sad, that country ask money for VIN/car check. Some other countries are made that basic database for free to fight against the criminals. If everyone can check the most basics information about the car registration and the current status, there be much less crime. Ireland is funny country, you can sale the car what have a sale restrictions (dept, court restriction). Only sad thing, the buyer will loose everything. As bona fide buyers they should have rights to keep the car. This is not their fault if the government support the criminals

Phileas Frog

w211 wrote: »

They got only the lowest "rank" guy, the real criminals are still there!!! Honestly the current car buying system support the criminals, because nobody does not check the real car. Many other countries have a system, where are necessary to show the car for NCT or similar facility.

I am not surprised if most of the Irish car buyers even do not know what are the VIN number and where it locating on the car. Too sad, that country ask money for VIN/car check. Some other countries are made that basic database for free to fight against the criminals. If everyone can check the most basics information about the car registration and the current status, there be much less crime. Ireland is funny country, you can sale the car what have a sale restrictions (dept, court restriction). Only sad thing, the buyer will loose everything. As bona fide buyers they should have rights to keep the car. This is not their fault if the government support the criminals

How do you put someone on ignore?

w211

Phileas Frog wrote: »

How do you put someone on ignore?

Are you criminal? By the way, welcome to my "fan club"

mickdw

w211 wrote: »

They got only the lowest "rank" guy, the real criminals are still there!!! Honestly the current car buying system support the criminals, because nobody does not check the real car. Many other countries have a system, where are necessary to show the car for NCT or similar facility.

I am not surprised if most of the Irish car buyers even do not know what are the VIN number and where it locating on the car. Too sad, that country ask money for VIN/car check. Some other countries are made that basic database for free to fight against the criminals. If everyone can check the most basics information about the car registration and the current status, there be much less crime. Ireland is funny country, you can sale the car what have a sale restrictions (dept, court restriction). Only sad thing, the buyer will loose everything. As bona fide buyers they should have rights to keep the car. This is not their fault if the government support the criminals

Some good points to be fair.
The only way to check against a cloned car is to do a paid history check to verify that vin is correct and that you are not being presented with a dodgy cert to make the cloned car match the reg. Vin info should as you say be made available freely or certainly a government website where you can enter vin and get a yes or no re matching the reg.

corks finest

littlevillage wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-agreed-to-sell-stolen-cars-for-almost-90k-on-donedeal-court-told-37882173.html


I have one question here ... How did this guy get hold of the registration documents for stolen cars ?

The thieves hardly stole the registration certs too ?

and

If the cars were reported to Gardai as stolen then the Motor Registration people in Shannon surely wouldn't send out a 'replacement' cert, right ?

He's some ****ing muppet

Nforce

mickdw wrote: »

Some good points to be fair.
The only way to check against a cloned car is to do a paid history check to verify that vin is correct and that you are not being presented with a dodgy cert to make the cloned car match the reg. Vin info should as you say be made available freely or certainly a government website where you can enter vin and get a yes or no re matching the reg.

Some cloned cars have had fake VIN numbers applied too. Mate of mine bought a cloned car several years ago (BMW) and during a diagnostics check I noted that the VIN and mileage were different on the ecu. The car wound up being seized by the Gardaí and my mate was out of pocket to the tune of several thousand euro.

dingding

There was a scam a few years ago where a car was purchased on a Friday evening with a forged bank draft.

The vehicle could be resold over a weekend and it would not show up as stolen on a car check.

Original seller goes into the bank on Monday and realises bank draft was forged.

He then reports car stolen.

It seems similar where a third party sold the car and gave the money to the person who sold the car originally.

The stolen car was sold cheap to move it over the weekend.