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RederthanRed

Bonniedog wrote: »

Paper hat for the first one to blame Dublin

Poxy Dubs.

shockframe

mattser wrote: »

Usually both teams have a go. They don't sit in their respective half of the pitch for 90 minutes.

Tell that to Tony Pulis, Sean Dyche, Jose Mourinho etc.

Take in a Juventus or Atletico Madrid game for good measure.

Norm Peterson

When will the GAA not cop on that the solution is very simple.

The blanket defence tactic needs to be outlawed by just putting a restriction on the number of players allowed in the defensive part of the field.

The blanket defence is the casue of every single issue that affects games these days and the first step to cure the game is to simply ban the tactic.

It's been obvious for along time now and yet the GAA have fluted around with half measures.Better to pull up the weed roots and all than snipping at its leaves.

I barely watch any football anymore (and it's my favourite sport), by far the most disappointing aspect is that the cause of the problem and the solution to the problem is simple and yet nobody wants to deal with it.The GAA media have let everyone down over the years because they've convinced people that hand passing is the problem and that should be dealt with when it is obvious to anyone with half a brain that excessive hand passing is the result of the problem and not the problem itself.

Norm Peterson

By the way people pointing that other sports have crap low scoring games miss the point that the vast majority of football fans don't want boring defensive games they want excitement and also relatively speaking football played defensively is much much worse to watch that soccer being played defensively.

theoneeyedman

mattser wrote: »

So which is it ?

It's the rule makers fault. Coaches will bitch and moan, possibly because it's easier for them if things stay the same. It's the rule makers job to structure the rules, not the coaches.
Set the rules as you see fit, by all means consult 'stakeholders for opinions, but make a decision then and fvck the vested interests. You don't see FIFA allowing Pep or Jose have a veto on their rules, or the IRB, or any other organisation.

Pure silly really when you think of it.

Rasputin11

Norm Peterson wrote: »

By the way people pointing that other sports have crap low scoring games miss the point that the vast majority of football fans don't want boring defensive games they want excitement and also relatively speaking football played defensively is much much worse to watch that soccer being played defensively.

It's very hard to keep the ball in soccer for long periods. In Gaelic Football, it's pretty easy to play keep balls for 3 or 4 minutes. Copying the backcourt rule from basketball isn't without its merits.

threeball

Rasputin11 wrote: »

It's very hard to keep the ball in soccer for long periods. In Gaelic Football, it's pretty easy to play keep balls for 3 or 4 minutes. Copying the backcourt rule from basketball isn't without its merits.

Its one way to encourage blanket defence. If the ball passes the half way line flood everyone back and a turnover is inevitable due to 28 guys in such a confined area.

Norm Peterson

Rasputin11 wrote: »

It's very hard to keep the ball in soccer for long periods. In Gaelic Football, it's pretty easy to play keep balls for 3 or 4 minutes. Copying the backcourt rule from basketball isn't without its merits.

The bakcourt rule would be a good one, unfortunately we can't introduce a shot clock rule as the field is too big for such a rule to work effectively.

OldMrBrennan83

You'd be afraid teams just wouldn't break the halfway line if there was a backfield rule.

Norm Peterson

Just switched on the Dublin v Roscommon match.

Roscommon 6 points down with about 5 minutes left and they spend 1 minute passing the ball back and forth inside their own 45.

This obsession with cautious defensive play which coaches have instilled in players is killing the sport.

mattser

Norm Peterson wrote: »

Just switched on the Dublin v Roscommon match.

Roscommon 6 points down with about 5 minutes left and they spend 1 minute passing the ball back and forth inside their own 45.

This obsession with cautious defensive play which coaches have instilled in players is killing the sport.

Killed it a long time ago.

threeball

Norm Peterson wrote: »

Just switched on the Dublin v Roscommon match.

Roscommon 6 points down with about 5 minutes left and they spend 1 minute passing the ball back and forth inside their own 45.

This obsession with cautious defensive play which coaches have instilled in players is killing the sport.

You should have watched the whole game before making assumptions. Roscommon went at Dublin for 58 mins but the legs went. That was in no way a defensive performance. Were leading for long periods of the game but Dublin subs overran them as well as a soft goal. No shame in their defeat.

OldMrBrennan83

They were catching their breath it looked like to me.

Norm Peterson

threeball wrote: »

You should have watched the whole game before making assumptions. Roscommon went at Dublin for 58 mins but the legs went. That was in no way a defensive performance. Were leading for long periods of the game but Dublin subs overran them as well as a soft goal. No shame in their defeat.

My point still stands because this is not the only time we have seen something like that happen in a game in recent years.

threeball

Norm Peterson wrote: »

My point still stands because this is not the only time we have seen something like that happen in a game in recent years.

No your point is rubbish. If your legs are gone you don't run headlong into the opposition. It's guaranteed turnover and a highly likely concession of another score. Roscommon did as good as you'd expect given the discrepancy on resources between them and their opposition.

Bonniedog

threeball wrote: »

No your point is rubbish. If your legs are gone you don't run headlong into the opposition. It's guaranteed turnover and a highly likely concession of another score. Roscommon did as good as you'd expect given the discrepancy on resources between them and their opposition.

:rolleyes:

Norm Peterson

threeball wrote: »

No your point is rubbish. If your legs are gone you don't run headlong into the opposition. It's guaranteed turnover and a highly likely concession of another score. Roscommon did as good as you'd expect given the discrepancy on resources between them and their opposition.

So a team who is losing shouldn't go chasing a score in the final minutes to get back in the game.

I'd rather take a massive risk and go gung ho and lose by 12 points than conserve energy and get beaten by 6.

I understand they might have been tired but as a I said earlier similar things have happened in other games over the last few years and tiredness was no excuse.

threeball

Norm Peterson wrote: »

So a team who is losing shouldn't go chasing a score in the final minutes to get back in the game.

I'd rather take a massive risk and go gung ho and lose by 12 points than conserve energy and get beaten by 6.

I understand they might have been tired but as a I said earlier similar things have happened in other games over the last few years and tiredness was no excuse.

They weren't just losing by a score though were they. They have maybe 12 good quality IC players and a few passengers. The subs they have to bring on add nothing. Dublin on the other hand bring on as good as is going off.

If Roscommon had sat back the whole game and defended you might have a point but they went at Dublin as long as they could and got caught with a sucker punch goal that took the life from them