Champion Bumper

RivetingRoger

Really like Blue Sarri but at recent preview night all contributors had it that the horse wouldn't travel.....heard nowt since. Envoi will run it seems

famagusta

Can't see envoi winning, slow as a boat

Kauto

famagusta wrote: »

Can't see envoi winning, slow as a boat

Thats generally the type of horse that run in Bumpers!!

Relegate and Carefully selected were first and second last year. Both are 3M plodders.

Slattsy

Vibes all seem fairly good around Blue Sari.

No idea what to back, maybe Joey's Meticulous at a bigger price. Get Ryan Moore to ride it.

Pogue eile

Slattsy wrote: »

Vibes all seem fairly good around Blue Sari.

No idea what to back, maybe Joey's Meticulous at a bigger price. Get Ryan Moore to ride it.

The way Ryan Moore has being riding the last 12 Months or so, I wouldn't get him to ride a clothes horse.

You have successfully re-awoken some very painful memories of Golden Cross though, thank you :(

Angliru

Any official word on Andy D? I know they said it was unlikely he'd go to the festival but anything more concrete? Must be still in Zihuatanejo...

IAMAMORON

I think the bumper is a real lottery. Unless you have some serious stable info I wouldn't bother getting too involved.


I remember watching the morning line the year Briar Hill won at 25/1. That's right, a 25/1 Ruby Walsh winner. Ruby was interviewed riding out Briar Hill that morning. " She'll make into a nice chaser next year" . The horse won by 7 lengths.


I doubt they even know themselves what they have until they are half way up the hill.

famagusta

Angliru wrote:

Any official word on Andy D? I know they said it was unlikely he'd go to the festival but anything more concrete? Must be still in Zihuatanejo...

Definitely not going

BumperD

Angliru wrote: »

Any official word on Andy D? I know they said it was unlikely he'd go to the festival but anything more concrete? Must be still in Zihuatanejo...

All the entries are online only 24 odd entries he’s not amongst them

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/racecards/2019-03-13/cheltenham/racecard/508442/weatherbys-champion-bumper-standard-open-nh-flat-race-grade-1

Motivator

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think the bumper is a real lottery. Unless you have some serious stable info I wouldn't bother getting too involved.


I remember watching the morning line the year Briar Hill won at 25/1. That's right, a 25/1 Ruby Walsh winner. Ruby was interviewed riding out Briar Hill that morning. " She'll make into a nice chaser next year" . The horse won by 7 lengths.


I doubt they even know themselves what they have until they are half way up the hill.

Ruby let’s the likes of Patrick and the other lads pick what ones they’re riding in the bumper. Patrick knows them inside out and it’s only when they’re ready to go jumping that Ruby gets involved. I’ve heard it before off different lads that have had horses with Mullins that he only wants to know about them if they’re Grade 1 potential in the next 12 -18 months. Now I heard that about 6 or 7 years ago so it may be different now or it may not have been true at all!

There’s every chance Ruby was told that Briar Hill had a chance and that’s why he rode it but obviously his price reflected where he stood in he stable lineup.

Kauto

Motivator wrote: »

Ruby let’s the likes of Patrick and the other lads pick what ones they’re riding in the bumper. Patrick knows them inside out and it’s only when they’re ready to go jumping that Ruby gets involved. I’ve heard it before off different lads that have had horses with Mullins that he only wants to know about them if they’re Grade 1 potential in the next 12 -18 months. Now I heard that about 6 or 7 years ago so it may be different now or it may not have been true at all!

There’s every chance Ruby was told that Briar Hill had a chance and that’s why he rode it but obviously his price reflected where he stood in he stable lineup.

Ruby doesn't "let's Patrick ride anything. Ruby is told what he is riding.

yaboya1

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I remember watching the morning line the year Briar Hill won at 25/1. That's right, a 25/1 Ruby Walsh winner. Ruby was interviewed riding out Briar Hill that morning. " She'll make into a nice chaser next year" . The horse won by 7 lengths.

You should have known not to listen given he didn't even know the sex of the horse he was riding.

IAMAMORON

yaboya1 wrote: »

You should have known not to listen given he didn't even know the sex of the horse he was riding.

I fairness to Ruby Walsh I may have made a typo in this instance, I doubt he wouldn't know the difference.

I just spent my Sunday morning going down through the Bumper entries and I am amazed to see that there are not too many WPM entries at all? Is this correct, I only spotted Mount Leinster and Blue Sari?

Motivator

Kauto wrote: »

Ruby doesn't "let's Patrick ride anything. Ruby is told what he is riding.

Yes, by Patrick. Patrick looks after the bumper horses that’s common knowledge.

gazza1

Think Abacadabras still has a decent chance in this race. Was running a cracker before deciding to run out last time and that was only his 2nd start.
Have watched the race numerous times and am still of the opinion he would have gotton very close to EA had he stayed on the track.
Surely there's more to come

14/1 currently

BumperD

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I fairness to Ruby Walsh I may have made a typo in this instance, I doubt he wouldn't know the difference.

I just spent my Sunday morning going down through the Bumper entries and I am amazed to see that there are not too many WPM entries at all? Is this correct, I only spotted Mount Leinster and Blue Sari?

Just the 2 entries you’d imagine mount Leinster would need a big turnaround to threaten EA.

Agree re Abacadra

BumperD

gazza1 wrote: »

Think Abacadabras still has a decent chance in this race. Was running a cracker before deciding to run out last time and that was only his 2nd start.
Have watched the race numerous times and am still of the opinion he would have gotton very close to EA had he stayed on the track.
Surely there's more to come

14/1 currently

It was the first time he was hit by a whip so he will learn from that.

zpehtsfd

Going to go with Meticulous here. Ran a cracker behind the fav and looked like a stiffer test may help. Also his mammy used to run very well around Cheltenham. Will probably wait till the extra place concessions on the day before i put on a decent bet. GL

IAMAMORON

zpehtsfd wrote: »

Going to go with Meticulous here. Ran a cracker behind the fav and looked like a stiffer test may help. Also his mammy used to run very well around Cheltenham. Will probably wait till the extra place concessions on the day before i put on a decent bet. GL

The mother was nipped on the line by Whiteoak in the mares hurdle. It was a photo finish, I was on her at 10's, the pain.

Angliru

On Meticulous myself. Have Master Debonair as well.

posturingpat

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The mother was nipped on the line by Whiteoak in the mares hurdle. It was a photo finish, I was on her at 10's, the pain.

Ah the memories youre bringing back lads It was refinement want it? I think Mc Coy was onboard. I was on College and backed it Early morning at a big price and got well punted and ran a Cracker. I was counting how Many weeks cans that was Going to cover:eek::D

Gavin "shels"

Angliru wrote: »

On Meticulous myself. Have Master Debonair as well.

Andy Holding from ATR very sweat on Master Debonair on their preview.

NaiveMelodies

Surely Abacadabras has Meticulous covered all ends up?

BumperD

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Surely Abacadabras has Meticulous covered all ends up?

Should have but these young horses improving at different rates it’s near impossible to be adamant on anything

zpehtsfd

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Surely Abacadabras has Meticulous covered all ends up?

If the race was over 2m @ Leopardstown again then it would be hard to separate them. I'm just taking a punt that Meticulous will act better around Cheltenham, given the stiff track, and the fact that his breeding says he should.