Driving ban and Brexit

Carmie15

I have a friend who got a 2 year driving ban. The ban is up in early May 2019. His licence is a UK license, does anyone know if he can still exchange it for an Irish license before the Brexit deadline?
TIA

Lmklad

Carmie15 wrote: »

I have a friend who got a 2 year driving ban. The ban is up in early May 2019. His licence is a UK license, does anyone know if he can still exchange it for an Irish license before the Brexit deadline?
TIA

Unlikely that he can as he will not be in possession of the licence until the ban is completed. However he can still change after Brexit.

keano25

Hang on, two year ban in England or Ireland?

Discodog

Someone from the RSA was on the radio & said that UK licenses can't be swapped for Irish ones after Brexit & that, if you are resident in Ireland you must have an Irish license.

Is this true ?

keano25

Yes if resident in Ireland for over 185 days you are supposed to exchange your UK for Irish license.

keano25

I can see UK registered cars being seized left right and centre after Brexit..

Atlantic Dawn

Discodog wrote: »

Someone from the RSA was on the radio & said that UK licenses can't be swapped for Irish ones after Brexit & that, if you are resident in Ireland you must have an Irish license.

Is this true ?

There's select countries where they can be swapped from, currently all EU countries and 15 other countries. The UK would cease to be an EU country after Brexit so unless they were added to the 15 other counties you won't be able to swap it.

lawred2

keano25 wrote: »

Yes if resident in Ireland for over 100 days you are supposed to exchange your UK for Irish license.

No you're not. There is no obligation on anyone in possession of an EU licence to exchange their license.

return guide

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's select countries where they can be swapped from, currently all EU countries and 15 other countries. The UK would cease to be an EU country after Brexit so unless they were added to the 15 other counties you won't be able to swap it.

Only in the event of a no deal brexit as per

https://www.ndls.ie/news/149-brexit-update.html

AA spokesman is quoted as saying in the event of a no deal brexit the government have discussed a "patch" to allow UK drivers to continue to drive here.
https://www.theaa.ie/blog/british-licence-change-pre-brexit/

keano25

lawred2 wrote: »

No you're not. There is no obligation on anyone in possession of an EU licence to exchange their license.

Can you show me that in writing? Not doubting you just want to see the proof..

keano25

lawred2 wrote: »

No you're not. There is no obligation on anyone in possession of an EU licence to exchange their license.

Actually you're wrong. Just checked the NDLS website..

As a visitor to Ireland you can drive on a driving licence from any state outside the EU/EEA for up to a year provided the driving licence is current and valid. However on taking up 'normal residence' in Ireland you must either exchange your driving licence or apply for a driving licence in Ireland. You are considered to be normally resident in Ireland if, because of personal and occupational ties, you usually live here for at least 185 days in each calendar year.

I was right, but mistaken on the number of days.. it's actually 185.. not 100.

lawred2

keano25 wrote: »

Can you show me that in writing? Not doubting you just want to see the proof..

https://www.ndls.ie/holders-of-foreign-licences.html#to-apply-to-exchange-a-foreign-driving-licence-issued-by-a-member-state-of-the-european-union-european-economic-area

Section on EU licenses. You can drive as long as you want on an EU licence as long as that licence is valid.

lawred2

keano25 wrote: »

Actually you're wrong. Just checked the NDLS website..

As a visitor to Ireland you can drive on a driving licence from any state outside the EU/EEA for up to a year provided the driving licence is current and valid. However on taking up 'normal residence' in Ireland you must either exchange your driving licence or apply for a driving licence in Ireland. You are considered to be normally resident in Ireland if, because of personal and occupational ties, you usually live here for at least 185 days in each calendar year.

I was right, but mistaken on the number of days.. it's actually 185.. not 100.

I'm not wrong.

keano25

lawred2 wrote: »

https://www.ndls.ie/holders-of-foreign-licences.html#to-apply-to-exchange-a-foreign-driving-licence-issued-by-a-member-state-of-the-european-union-european-economic-area

Section on EU licenses. You can drive as long as you want on an EU licence as long as that licence is valid.

However on taking up 'normal residence' in Ireland you must either exchange your driving licence or apply for a driving licence in Ireland. You are considered to be normally resident in Ireland if, because of personal and occupational ties, you usually live here for at least 185 days in each calendar year.

lawred2

keano25 wrote: »

However on taking up 'normal residence' in Ireland you must either exchange your driving licence or apply for a driving licence in Ireland. You are considered to be normally resident in Ireland if, because of personal and occupational ties, you usually live here for at least 185 days in each calendar year.

Throw up an old link there.. I can see no mention of normal residence on that page.

locohobo

My read on this......
(If you have a driving licence issued by an EU/EEA member state you can drive in Ireland as long as your existing licence is valid)....
IF UK crash out of EU/EEA then it will no longer be a member state resulting in....
(Where a driving licence has been issued on foot of an exchange from a country that Ireland does not have an exchange agreement with then Ireland cannot exchange the driving licence.) until something is put in place to allow UK citizens to apply for exchange....

AHH!!!!................
Did'nt spot the "normal residency" bit........

keano25

lawred2 wrote: »

Throw up an old link there.. I can see no mention of normal residence on that page.

https://www.ndls.ie/holders-of-foreign-licences.html#to-apply-to-exchange-a-foreign-driving-licence-issued-by-a-recognised-state

lawred2

keano25 wrote: »

https://www.ndls.ie/holders-of-foreign-licences.html#to-apply-to-exchange-a-foreign-driving-licence-issued-by-a-recognised-state

Recognised states are not EU countries.

keano25

lawred2 wrote: »

Recognised states are not EU countries.

My mistake.

SCOOP 64

Been driving here 15 yrs on a UK licence without a problem, a lot of speculation on what will happen after Brexit,
will wait and see on what needs to be done, im not going to panic.

Discodog

I think it's highly irresponsible of the RSA if they are stating incorrect information.

Seth Brundle

Discodog wrote: »

I think it's highly irresponsible of the RSA if they are stating incorrect information.

It wouldn't be the first time they've been completely wrong in fairness.