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Windmills

  • 22-02-2019 8:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭


    Hi. There’s seems to be a lot of windmills going up around my area. Does anyone here know how to get one on your own land


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Windturbines or actual historical style windmills?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Iloverain


    _Brian wrote: »
    Windturbines or actual historical style windmills?

    Wind turbines I’d say they are. There’s a few wind farms gone up in the area over the last few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Iloverain


    Bump:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    You would need to be part of a larger group of turbines and have ready access to a substation to connect the generated power onto the grid. And it's not cheap to do.


    You also have an option to erect a smaller turbine for your own use for a couple of grand which would export any unused power by you onto the grid for free. And of the retailers of those turbines would be able to give you more information such as maximum heights before Planning Permission is needed, what size would suit you etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Iloverain wrote: »
    Hi. There’s seems to be a lot of windmills going up around my area. Does anyone here know how to get one on your own land

    What I did, was get the names of the local companies and email them directly.

    I also emailed every company that successfully got planning permission in Clare for a solar farm.

    I was successful in getting responses from them but unsuccessful in viability of each of them.

    I’ll try again in a year or two to see did legislation change.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    What I did, was get the names of the local companies and email them directly.

    I also emailed every company that successfully got planning permission in Clare for a solar farm.

    I was successful in getting responses from them but unsuccessful in viability of each of them.

    I’ll try again in a year or two to see did legislation change.


    Be prepared to fall out with the neighbours, people are very NIMBYish about turbines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    wrangler wrote: »
    Be prepared to fall out with the neighbours, people are very NIMBYish about turbines

    We are surrounded by them and it’s pretty much inevitable that everyone around me will have them.
    It’s the non locals that have caused the trouble locally. My mother got dogs abuse off a man for allowing a few electricity poles through the land- he hadn’t his wits about him btw but he knew to visit when both my brother and I were at work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Iloverain wrote: »
    Bump:)


    Under the current REFIT scheme you will probably be too late if planning is not already secured. There might be another one but given the escalating cost of energy in this country it is debateable whether the subsidies will be as generous, which could seriously crimp the sector. Even now some large wind farms are losing money and some have been bought(rescued??) by state backed entities like Greenwire. Same goes for solar farms. Similar pattern in the UK and other parts of the EU in recent years.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/22/no-subsidies-for-green-power-projects-before-2025-says-uk-treasury

    The above is the current situation in the UK which is why some UK solar companies are trying to lobby the government here to fill the gap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    First step is getting a wind survey done
    I've attempted to get one done here but I've never got a response from any of the survey companies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    I have no real problem with wind turbines. Bit noisy if close to your house. Just wonder what benifit it is to having them on your land. Do you sell the site or get paid to have them?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    I have no real problem with wind turbines. Bit noisy if close to your house. Just wonder what benifit it is to having them on your land. Do you sell the site or get paid to have them?

    You lease the land and access land to the wind company for25 years for either a fixed sum or sum and % of revenue for 25 years. After 25 years the company and yourself can agree a new lease or they have to remove all the equipment and roadways from the land and return it to agri use again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    I have no real problem with wind turbines. Bit noisy if close to your house. Just wonder what benifit it is to having them on your land. Do you sell the site or get paid to have them?

    This is a deal I was involved with in 2013 as part of a project team, they were aiming for 3 MW but it's likely it'll be 4 MW so an extra €6000/year.

    IFA has negotiated market leading arrangements with wind development companies, which include:
     Annual payment during the option period of €1,000.
     Minimum annual lease payments of €6,000/MW or €18,000 per turbine.
     Payment of 3% of energy price and green credits up to year 15, rising to 5% thereafter.
     Forestry -
    o Full compensation paid for grants/premia paid and remaining to be paid.
    o Wind Development Company will take on full replanting obligations.
    o Landowners will receive full crop rotational value for any felled forestry.
     Agricultural schemes -
    o Full compensations for any losses in REPs, Area Aid and/or Single Farm Payment.
     Consultation regarding location of access roads.
     Payment on receipt of planning - €10,000 to €18,000.

    1
    Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland, EirGrid (2011), Impact of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭MeTheMan


    If only I had some mountainy/windy land. I presume most leases are renewed. Seems a big expense removing the turbine and roads etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    If only I had some mountainy/windy land. I presume most leases are renewed. Seems a big expense removing the turbine and roads etc.


    30 year lease with an option on another 30yrs from what I remember. They take up very little room is a field, there'd be a road put down as well, doesn't need to be hilly, turbines are 150mtrs high with 50 mtr blades


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    wrangler wrote: »
    30 year lease with an option on another 30yrs from what I remember. They take up very little room is a field, there'd be a road put down as well, doesn't need to be hilly, turbines are 150mtrs high with 50 mtr blades

    I can see a few in the valley below me.


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