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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,425 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Wheres Paddy Fookin Patterson? Is he injured?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 511 ✭✭✭munsterfan2


    Was Kendellan ever tried at hooker when he was coming through ?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Did his ACL last season. Due back around December/January.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭onlyrocknroll


    I think that the bigger size of a future Munster pack is good news for small but powerful players like him. In a generally lighter pack there's a bit of a premium on bulk. We'd feel a need to favour a bigger player over another lighter but perhaps better player, to balance out our size disadvantage. In a pack with Edogbo, Aherne, Coombes Gleeson, Salanoa etc, a player like Kendellen doesn't have this disadvantage. Perhaps I'm looking at it wrong but that's how I see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Blackheath


    Is a 2nd row of Edogbo and Fineen a good line out pairing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Munster are going for the La Rochelle build. Big heavy pack who can play on ball rugby, in contrast with Leinster who kick the ball away and pressure the opposition when they try to counter attack

    To do this we need size because we need to be able to keep the ball without having to commit too many forwards to the breakdown.

    I this build, small forwards like Kendellan, Hodnett and POM, Jack O Donoghue etc are really important at covering space and we also need to use size in the centre and wing as auxiliary forwards.

    Munster want to play with the ball but not just crash it like the old Munster. We want to move it quickly to break down the opposition defense through multiple phases. This requires fitness, size and the ability to offload and pass, and scramble to retain possession if there's a handling error.

    When Munster struggled last year, it was when we were down size in the 2nd row through injury. This year, unless we have another injury disaster I think we have a really really strong team

    We have Edogbo, Ahern, Kleyn and Snyman to be fit and available as Primary Locks, ideally then we can play Fineen and Beirne in the back row for the knockouts and against the bigger packs, alongside a powerful 8 like Coombes or Gleeson, and we can have POM, Hodnett, Quinn, Kendellan, JOD covering 6 7 and 8 rotating in and out as needed

    Edogbo and Ahern are hugely important for the start of the season when Snyman Kleyn and Beirne are recovering from the RWC. We need one of them on the pitch at all times.

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    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,712 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Edogbo is huge in the lineout and so is Ahern off the bench. Fineen is also a handy lineout operator

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 26,587 ✭✭✭✭phog


    An interview with Graham Rowntree in The42, well worth the read.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Read that this morning. Great read.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    we need PFP back, he was brilliant last year. who else is injured?

    Haley?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    Strange hearing Zombie again...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭letowski


    That’s a good try by Munster. Great to see Edogbo back and looking strong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Think I'll go full-Clegg on Edogbo. He's going to be a mainstay of the Munster and Ireland team for the next decade. McCarthy could be handy from the bench



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Daly looking very good at 15 today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭budhabob




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    If their #8 wasn't too busy holding down one of ours he might have tackled Carbery and stopped that try



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭letowski


    Joey has been really impressive so far. Nice to see, looks like he has had a new lease of life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Edogbo just swatted him back into the ruck and took the ball. Really hope he can stay fit this year. Joey looking very sharp too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Conway looks like Ben Stiller in Dodgeball with the smig



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    If Joey can use this as motivation to get back to his best he could put Crowley under pressure. Which can only be good for the both of them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Fantastic kick / chase / try by Frisch.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Absolutely, but that was horrendous from the Sharks. What on earth were they thinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,019 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Delighted for Carbery. Looks very sharp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭joedamuss


    Frisch has got X factor for sure, he needs to bee in the squad for the six nations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    Two well worked and taken trys and another with a piece of luck but also shows what happens when you don't give up the chase.

    A forward pass and a questionable cross field kick the only marks against Carbery in that first half, playing very well otherwise and 3/3 from the tee.

    Daly looking very good in a bit of space and Conway hasn't put a foot wrong. Lovely hands from the pack too, start of last season those kind of balls (like that 2nd try) we're going to ground or being knocked on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,122 ✭✭✭Shehal


    What the F**k was Daly doing there just letting the ball go out for a 50/22...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭MaddChris


    Daly needs to hoof that into the stand, what was he thinking?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Logging in late here. I presume all the previous messages have been about how great Edogbo has been, so no need to read them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,019 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Great turnover by Baron.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭letowski


    Nice try assist for Nankivell.



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