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Group claims Human cloning success!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    She does look like she could be extraterrestrial herself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,314 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    We're entering science-fiction territory here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

    Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

    I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

    All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The more I've learned about how humans are built, the more I'm convinced that cloning isn't feasible, at least not in the way we think of it. It may be possible to create a zygote with identical DNA to a person, but then what? There's no way to control for random genetic mutations, variations in maternal hormone levels, natural bacteria being inherited, etc. All of these things play as much a roll in determining what characteristics the eventual baby will have once born. Not only is DNA not the only deterministic factor in what characteristics a baby will have after being born, it's also not a fixed thing - many genetic mutations take place during gestation, they're not necessarily present at the moment a zygote is created. Creating a viable human beings through this kind of method is most likely very plausible, but creating an exact replica of another human being is more than just DNA at conception, and I honestly can't think of any way one could control for all of the random or flexible changes which happen during gestation which might cause the resulting clone to differ very significantly from its original.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Wait til the socisl justice warriors start demanding rights for the clones

    Same clone marriage referendum in 2039


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    The more I've learned about how humans are built, the more I'm convinced that cloning isn't feasible, at least not in the way we think of it. It may be possible to create a zygote with identical DNA to a person, but then what? There's no way to control for random genetic mutations, variations in maternal hormone levels, natural bacteria being inherited, etc. All of these things play as much a roll in determining what characteristics the eventual baby will have once born. Not only is DNA not the only deterministic factor in what characteristics a baby will have after being born, it's also not a fixed thing - many genetic mutations take place during gestation, they're not necessarily present at the moment a zygote is created. Creating a viable human beings through this kind of method is most likely very plausible, but creating an exact replica of another human being is more than just DNA at conception, and I honestly can't think of any way one could control for all of the random or flexible changes which happen during gestation which might cause the resulting clone to differ very significantly from its original.
    like identical twins then?

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I'm not too keen on having thousands of pissed-off Jango Fetts running around the place, mind. :(


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Clannad have really moved away from their musical heritage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Hopefully they get this sorted before we run out of people. If theres something theres a shortage of in the world, it's people........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    Clone Kelly Brooke.

    Leave her without a voice and send her over to me for a test drive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭orourkeda1977


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Wait til the socisl justice warriors start demanding rights for the clones

    Same clone marriage referendum in 2039

    Whats the correct gender pronoun for a human clone?

    Do they identify as human?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    like identical twins then?

    Less identical I'd imagine, for the same reason - identical twins share a womb and therefore are subjected to identical prenatal and environmental conditions. Clones would not. A better analogy would be if the foetus of one identical twin was removed from its mother and implanted into another woman's womb - she would have different levels of hormones, bacteria etc, so that foetus would potentially develop in a radically different way to its twin.


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