zaroon32 wrote: »
My family and I are moving to Ireland soon, our kids are in primary school (aged 5 & 7) and was wondering if anyone had any feedback on St. Kilian’s German School in Dublin, it seems to be the only Deutsche Schule in Ireland? Our kids are already bi-lingual in another European language and would be great if we could get them into a language school in Ireland.
byhookorbycrook wrote: »
Sending a child to a private school isn't considered home schooling.
Can't answer as to what a "real Deutsche Schule" is, I'm afraid.
To the best of my knowledge, the primary and secondary aren't in the same building. Ordinary Irish schools don't do PE every day- it's done on two different days, usually and the children wear their sports' uniform in to school. Many schools bring the children swimming from 1st up and the children change themselves.
Under Section 14 (1) of the Education (Welfare) Act, 2000 parents of children who attend a non -recognised school - that is a school that is not funded by the Department of Educational and Skills (e.g. a private primary school) - or of children who are educated at home - must complete a registration assessment process.
This legal requirement exists in order to support parents in their right to home educate and importantly, to safeguard a child's right to a minimum education.
zaroon32 wrote: »
Moving to Ireland and are expecting to enrol our kids in primary school in Ireland this September (ages 5&7). As it’s getting close to the deadline, would really appreciate as much feedback as possible because we will need to make a decision very soon. and really appreciate as much feedback as possible because we will need to make a decision very soon. We are also deciding where to live so the location of the school will be very important.
We made some inquiries about St. Kilians Deutsche Schule and some of the responses were very mixed to put it mildly. The answers we got have raised more questions than they’ve answered to be honest and would appreciate if others on here could help answer:
Q1. One of the main reasons for sending our kids to Kilians is because it’s a Deutsche Schule but many people have told me that it is not really a Deutsche Schule, we first asked about this about the school last October when we visited but they didn’t like the question and appeared to get annoyed that we were asking. We asked politely if the school was a real Deutsche Schule and didn’t get a very happy response. Could somebody please clarify if this school is actual a Deutsche Schule because this is a really important issue for us?
There is a German stream in primary , first to sixth class. Where the subjects can be studied in German rather than English. I assume that is still the case.
Q2. I’ve be told that in St. Kilians, the Primary and Secondary School share the same building and that the primary school kids change class rooms for different subjects, this means that the kids are mixing/encountering the secondary school kids. I was also told that the primary and secondary kids can use the same toilets? Also that in first class the children change clothes for sports every day, our youngest is not used to getting changed on their own and the mixing between the older kids and sharing corridors and classrooms seems unusual. Is it normal in Ireland for kids in first class to change clothes on their own for sports everyday, and is it normal for primary and secondary students to share corridors and toilets? Will it be like this in all schools?
Yeah it’s one big building. The primary kids have Loos down the end of a corridor that the secondary kids wouldn’t use , to the best of my recollection.
Q3. From what I understand, the primary school is a private school and the secondary school is not. So if we send our kids to the primary school it means that from a legal perspective we are “home schooling” our children. Is this actually the case, that we would technically be home schooling our children?
Idbatterim wrote: »
Primary and secondary are private.
Deandre Blue Backstage wrote: »
OP, the other thing to keep in mind is that Kilian's is a nightmare at drop off and collection times.
The school starts at 8:15am and if you are driving you will need to give yourself at least 30 mins even if you live close to the school, that means you will have to leave your house by 7:45am at the latest.
There is only one way in and one way out and you are driving into traffic mayhem. Parking spaces are full, bumper to bumper cars, cars parked on the kerb because there aren't enough spaces, parents arguing with each other. The stress levels are up to 90 and your day hasn't even started.
If your kids aren't old enough you will have to try and park and then escort your child into the school while navigating through secondary school kids, parents, staff just to get to your kids classroom and then wait for the teacher to arrive while making small talk with the other parents which can be a struggle in itself.
You will then have to make your way back to your car, queue in traffic just to get out of the school and then you're straight into Dublin traffic at 8:30/8:40 in the morning, and that's if your lucky enough not to be accosted for parking illegally by one of the campaign warrior parents who cycles to school on an €5k electric bike.
Also, just to give you a heads up that if you go to the open day. The management in the school have this mantra that they repeat over and over that the reason Kilian's doesn't perform well academically as other schools is because they have students who go on to study in the UK, Europe etc because they have an international contingent. This is nonsense, the results are the results regardless of whether the kids go on to University in Ireland or elsewhere and this can be verified. You can ask the school board of management for the data but I doubt they would give that to you.
Maybe there are other parents on here who can give you more positive feedback about the school but I'd imagine they're reluctant to give a recommendation because there is such a high rate of parents who take their kids out of the school.
evolving_doors wrote: »
I think you're getting confused here. Why would any fee charging school mention over and over that they don't perform well academically?
The transition to Irish university is above 100% https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3719470.1543903379!/menu/standard/file/fs.pdf
Average Leaving cert points in 2018 was 469 which isn't too bad by other Fee Charging standards. Despite your claims the data is freely available here BTW https://www.kilians.com/our-school-in-numbers/