Civil service re-applying question

dinkle23

Hey there,

I worked with the civil service 20 years ago as a clerical officer grade 3. Currently applying again for the civil service.

Would anyone know if this previous cs employment would count to starting in a higher pay bracket?

Thanks in advance!

dinkle23

dinkle23 wrote: »

Hey there,

I worked with the civil service 20 years ago as a clerical officer grade 3. Currently applying again for the civil service.

Would anyone know if this previous cs employment would count to starting in a higher pay bracket?

Thanks in advance!

applying for co again or for another role?

if former.....hmmm theoreticall possibly but unlikely.


if latter its a certain no.

service might be transferable for pension purposes.

dinkle23

For the same role, so a co grade 3 again...

roses_blue

dinkle23 wrote: »

For the same role, so a co grade 3 again...

You can get incremental credit for previous service after you have started the new CO role. It can take a while to process though and depends entirely on the records of your previous employment still being in existence as the HR from that previous department need to fill in the incremental credit form.

august12

How many years were you employed as CO?

4ensic15

roses_blue wrote: »

You can get incremental credit for previous service after you have started the new CO role. It can take a while to process though and depends entirely on the records of your previous employment still being in existence as the HR from that previous department need to fill in the incremental credit form.

Why wouldn't they have records? Records can be relevant to pension for decades after a person has gone.

roses_blue

4ensic15 wrote: »

Why wouldn't they have records? Records can be relevant to pension for decades after a person has gone.

They have no reason to get rid of them but records are often lost or filed incorrectly making it near impossible to find them again. Especially after twenty years, files would be in long term storage so who knows.

4ensic15

roses_blue wrote: »

They have no reason to get rid of them but records are often lost or filed incorrectly making it near impossible to find them again. Especially after twenty years, files would be in long term storage so who knows.

A government department losing personnel files? That would be farcical as well as being a breach of the Data Protection Acts.

roses_blue

4ensic15 wrote: »

A government department losing personnel files? That would be farcical as well as being a breach of the Data Protection Acts.

Regardless, it happens.

4ensic15

roses_blue wrote: »

Regardless, it happens.

I have never heard of service records going missing.

roses_blue

4ensic15 wrote: »

I have never heard of service records going missing.

I worked in HR and it definitely happened more than once, long term storage couldn’t locate files or had the wrong records in certain boxes.

dinkle23

august12 wrote: »

How many years were you employed as CO?

Almost 2 years so from 1998 - 2000 or so...

4ensic15

4ensic15 wrote: »

I have never heard of service records going missing.

and yet it happens

4ensic15

Deleted User wrote: »

and yet it happens

Have you any examples?

4ensic15

4ensic15 wrote: »

Have you any examples?

im surprised that someone of yr constant negative diatribes against the public sector isnt greedy for the reinforcement

ive seen it a good few times in my various roles

most common cause is mislabelling/misremembering of old files when being sent for storage (typically the names wouldve been as gaeilge which doesnt help many years later when theyre needed for reference)

anyway this is a derail

august12

dinkle23 wrote:

Almost 2 years so from 1998 - 2000 or so...

You probably had your superannuation refunded. When you start, I think you are allowed incremental credit for these years, you also should have the option of buying back this service for pension purposes,

4ensic15

roses_blue wrote: »

I worked in HR and it definitely happened more than once, long term storage couldn’t locate files or had the wrong records in certain boxes.

HR in the Civil Service?

jules86

There's a circular on this if you Google circular 21/2004 you should get more information