Should I burn my Ryan Adams albums?

Atoms for Peace · 14-02-2019 8:15pm #1

So its looking like Ryan Adams exploited his "rockstar" status to take advantage of aspiring female artists sexually. So the question is should he be consigned to the league of dirty old perverts such as harvey weinstein or held up as a shining light of the hedonistic sex, drug and rock n roll lifestyle?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQn066rlI40

OldMrBrennan83 · 14-02-2019 8:16pm

Anyone who's ever had a ride should be shunned by society.

buckwheat · 14-02-2019 8:17pm

You should burn them because he's ****ing ****

mistersifter · 14-02-2019 8:17pm

Summer of 69 was a brilliant record - don't burn that!:pac:

mad muffin · 14-02-2019 8:19pm

Ryan Adams. Brian Adams’s purvey, more rapey brother.

Atoms for Peace · 14-02-2019 8:20pm

buckwheat wrote: »

You should burn them because he's ****ing ****

Your just jealous he got the ride!:rolleyes:

Odhinn · 14-02-2019 8:20pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Anyone who's ever had a ride should be shunned by society.

Anyone enjoying themselves likewise. Happy ridin bastards.

JohnnyFlash · 14-02-2019 8:21pm

Morrissey is a fùcking dickhead.

buckwheat · 14-02-2019 8:22pm

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Your just jealous he got the ride!:rolleyes:

True

super_furry · 14-02-2019 8:23pm

I'd burn them anyway cos he's ****e and his music is poxy.

Atoms for Peace · 14-02-2019 8:25pm

buckwheat wrote: »

True

I often wonder did covering taylor swifts 1989 get him anywhere.

KungPao · 14-02-2019 8:46pm

Sure I still listen to some of Paul Gadd’s work, usually with a few drinks in me, and strictly using headphones...in case the fuzz hear and get the wrong idea and kick my door down.

Sick **** but had a few belting tunes.

Vincent Vega · 14-02-2019 8:58pm

Hope everybody who feels like their favourite musicians need to be upstanding morally decent people are not also fans of pretty much the majority of 60s/70s bands...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoOKvpNoPU4

From the live version...

I can see that you're thirteen years old
No I don't want your I.D
You look so lonesome and you're so far from home

But it's no hanging matter
It's no capital crime

lertsnim · 14-02-2019 9:00pm

Best do it to be sure. He could be innocent of all accusations but then he could also be GUILTY. Best to over react to such things.

Autecher · 14-02-2019 9:01pm

I posted this in his gig thread but this is probably a more appropriate place for it.
If this is true then that stuff with the young girl is very scummy stuff and that threatening to kill himself if someone doesn't come to see him immediately is just straight up emotional blackmail and very scummy too. However why is nobody questioning the behaviour of a few of these women? Phoebe Bridgers described him as obsessive and emotionally abusive so she broke up with him which is the best thing to do but then she accepts an offer to tour Europe with him and goes alone to his hotel room? No he shouldn't be naked when she walks in but she shouldn't be there either. The Courtney Jaye I don't see what he did wrong the way it's wrote in the article. He came on to her and she says she wasn't interested but she still got into a bed with him? No sex took place according to her but why be in the bed with him at all if you were there to record music? Get the fúck out of the studio and leave!

SEPT 23 1989 · 14-02-2019 9:09pm

The summer of 1991 in the disco

Slow setting

Paradise lost

Edit wrong Adams

odyssey06 · 14-02-2019 9:11pm

Burn them from mp3 to CD.

Then decide what to do.

Deleting an mp3 isnt visual like putting CD into microwave.

14-02-2019 9:23pm

What?!! I have all of his albums! I love him!

Anesthetize · 14-02-2019 9:31pm

Should I burn all my Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Iggy Pop, and Marvin Gaye albums because of their alleged dalliances with underage groupies in the 70's? There seems to be a different standard these days.

Ryan Adams has always had a reputation as an asshole. But that's never had any effect on my enjoyment of his albums.

14-02-2019 9:39pm

But, oh, Cinderella
All dressed up in all your boots and all your charms
I'm not the fellow
To protect you or to keep you from all your harm.

One of my favourite songs ever.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 14-02-2019 9:46pm

Yeah, make me a copy of Love is Hell. Never got around to buying that.

Calltocall · 14-02-2019 11:20pm

Thought I would chime in on this and may go a little off topic, Adams is an asshole, a talented prolific songwriter no doubt but an asshole all the same would have never pegged him for chatting up an underage girl, changes my entire opinion of him, he could be in big **** for this with the law and rightfully so, Going to be very hard for him to come back from it.

It brings me onto something else I’ve noticed though and maybe I’m going off topic a bit here, call it a general trend I notice in the world today, someone I know was talking about this earlier today saying Ryan Adams is a scumbag etc etc never liked him etc now this individual is often jumping on social justice campaigns online etc and getting up on the high horse and calling people out for their bad behavior but I know this person to be no saint himself and a sleaze with girls, he almost does the high horse stuff so people think he’s a great guy, virtue signalling basically but I’m thinking the absolute neck, so insincere to be calling out other people and your no saint yourself, it just irks me & I guarantee if you took a magnifying glass to an awful lot of people who get outraged by celebrity misbehavior you wouldn’t find squeaky clean people, a lot of these social justice warriors bug the **** out of me and I think half of them are up to dodgy **** themselves.

jbt123 · 14-02-2019 11:26pm

Calltocall wrote: »

Thought I would chime in on this and may go a little off topic, Adams is an asshole, a talented prolific songwriter no doubt but an asshole all the same would have never pegged him for chatting up an underage girl, changes my entire opinion of him, he could be in big **** for this with the law and rightfully so, Going to be very hard for him to come back from it.

It brings me onto something else I’ve noticed though and maybe I’m going off topic a bit here, call it a general trend I notice in the world today, someone I know was talking about this earlier today saying Ryan Adams is a scumbag etc etc never liked him etc now this individual is often jumping on social justice campaigns online etc and getting up on the high horse and calling people out for their bad behavior but I know this person to be no saint himself and a sleaze with girls, he almost does the high horse stuff so people think he’s a great guy, virtue signalling basically but I’m thinking the absolute neck, so insincere to be calling out other people and your no saint yourself, it just irks me & I guarantee if you took a magnifying glass to an awful lot of people who get outraged by celebrity misbehavior you wouldn’t find squeaky clean people, a lot of these social justice warriors bug the **** out of me and I think half of them are up to dodgy **** themselves.

Do as I say, not as I do....

Harry Palmr · 14-02-2019 11:28pm

Would you burn a Caravaggio? Ryan Adams on the other hand is of no cultural importance at all so it's easier to make a value judgement.

Brid Hegarty · 14-07-2022 9:32am

https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/ryan-adams/

Strumms · 15-07-2022 8:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/109427861#Comment_109427861

been a fan of his music for 15 years. Class songwriter, fantastic musician with absolute talent to burn.

however, anyone that ever saw any of his shows will admit that he is a little ‘out there‘ as an individual. It’s not part of his act..

however too I’d hope that whatever I dunno impropriety or improprieties that have been alleged were involving consenting adults… creepy is one thing, and not cool, pestering not cool either, but anything of an underage variety is I’m sorry, unforgivable.

Montage of Feck · 16-07-2022 9:15pm

Can I keep the whiskey town stuff? But seriously being a bit out there isn't a crime, from the available info the expoitation allegations could swing both ways.

thefallingman · 16-07-2022 9:19pm

Mickey Jackson is always on the radio

Strumms · 16-07-2022 9:26pm

I thought there was some new allegation but seemingly this one back in Jan / Feb saw him cleared by the FBI…. That is pretty concrete…

so I can listen to his music, without being creeped out.

Quantum Erasure · 17-07-2022 8:11pm

well, if you need the ok from the FBI...

Strumms · 17-07-2022 10:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350741#Comment_119350741

No, just needed to know that he wasn’t that kind of bloke.

an absolute Q of respected female musicians whom he worked with and even ex-girlfriends came out and supported him.

Grayson · 18-07-2022 6:02am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119351466#Comment_119351466

He's so dodgy. The amount of stuff he's done, even if it's not illegal,

I wondered if people should still listen to Michael Jackson, or any convicted celebrity, back when the MJ trail was ongoing.

Let's take Gary Glitter as an example since he's an obvious one everyone would agree on. I think that giving money to a convicted sex offender is wrong. But if you have an album already and listen to it, you're not doing that. So long as the offender doesn't benefit from you listening to it, then it's fine.

pappyodaniel · 18-07-2022 11:13am

Ever hear of separating the art from the artist?

Quantum Erasure · 18-07-2022 3:25pm

I was watching some film the other day, and as the credits roll a song comes on that sounds like the Lostprophets...

Turns out it wasnt. I had to check though, because I was surprised to hear it...

gmisk · 18-07-2022 3:28pm

His gig in the NCH was terrific, his one in the Olympia was a shambles.

Shame he has tainted his legacy and seriously derailed his career (he is still churning out music but I would avoid tbh).

Brid Hegarty · 01-04-2023 6:12pm

Man I'm really digging some of his music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQglfLzXf_c&ab_channel=J

Brid Hegarty · 02-04-2023 11:42pm

Damn good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzZ7HvSnDQo

Brid Hegarty · 05-04-2023 10:29am

Nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmHgY_J63Ik

newmember2 · 05-04-2023 10:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119351869#Comment_119351869

I think that giving money to a convicted sex offender is wrong.

Convicted sex offenders are people too.

Brid Hegarty · 09-04-2023 12:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120443172#Comment_120443172

Well he wasn't convicted. Anyway, this song is just jaw dropping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCev9N_dSyg&ab_channel=RyanAdams-Topic

pappyodaniel · 09-04-2023 8:08pm

Ryan Adams popped up in the Meet Me in the Bathroom documentary and became the villain of the piece. He was a seriously bad influence on Albert Hammond Jr from The Strokes, introducing him to heroin and crack cocaine.

growleaves · 09-04-2023 8:25pm

You know what to do, don't ya laddie?

FixdePitchmark · 10-04-2023 12:16pm

Funny this thread coming up - as I've been listening to him a good bit lately. I just love acoustic music - and him Live at Carnegie Hall is probably one of the best I've heard. The guy seems to have issues from a fairly dysfunctional childhood - he has serious issues with women and he had a very serious drug problem. It is a difficult one - because all these things formed him and his art is a byproduct. Lots of people have a difficult childhood , but not all of them use it as an excuse to be a druggy arse and always angry and abusive.

The stuff Ryan did - would just have been considered normal rock star stuff only 10 years ago - but that just doesn't work now.

I'd still love to see him live - if you didn't engage in art that comes from a dark place - you would be running on much thinner material.