Incident at Roscommon hotel (asylum seekers)

Odhinn

Yamanoto wrote: »

Brits out, everyone else in.

That's Nodin in a nutshell.

We signed up to free movement with the EU. Outside of that, we signed up to the Geneva convention with regard to asylum seekers/refugees. I have no difficulty with either.

malinheader

Odhinn wrote: »

I was explaining why somebody might think a certain poster would hold "'Irexit" views, so why are you trying to shoe horn your agenda driven posts into that?

I thought the poster was stating any decision we seem to make about asylum seekers or migrants has to be okay,ed by europe first.
By the way a view I would agree with.
Only asked you a question to see what your view was.
If you think it's a shoe horn agenda. Just don't reply.

Odhinn

malinheader wrote: »

I thought the poster was stating any decision we seem to make about asylum seekers or migrants has to be okay,ed by europe first. .

Given the way the EU has had to cajole some states to take refugees - with little success in some cases - I'd say your assesment was wrong.

malinheader wrote: »

By the way a view I would agree with.
Only asked you a question to see what your view was.
If you think it's a shoe horn agenda. Just don't reply.

It could have been managed better, however leaving them all in just Italy and Greece was never a viable option.

malinheader

Odhinn wrote: »

Given the way the EU has had to cajole some states to take refugees - with little success in some cases - I'd say your assesment was wrong.






It could have been managed better, however leaving them all in just Italy and Greece was never a viable option.

Ok ,the part where you stated that the EU had to cajole some states to take refugees makes me think my assessment is right.
Could of been managed better I agree. Italy and Greece were badly treated.

DelaneyIn

An update on the DP Centre in Rooskey.

THE DEPARTMENT OF Justice and Equality was concerned that a potential legal challenge to the opening of a Direct Provision centre at a disused hotel could disrupt the lives of asylum seekers, new documents show.
Shannon Key West Hotel in Rooskey, which runs along the border of Co Leitrim and Co Roscommon, was set to house 80 asylum seekers but the project was affected by a number of legal and planning issues, as well as suspected arson attacks.

The decision to scrap the plan to open the centre was confirmed by the department on 21 March, citing legal advice it received in relation to leasing issues.

https://www.thejournal.ie/direct-provision-centre-rooskey-legal-issues-4614154-May2019/

ToddyDoody

It reminds me of the field where the bull mccabe holds up a stick and tells the yank 'this is the law', only in this case its a lighter.

jay0109

Dude89 wrote: »

Rejected Asylum Seekers get Leave To Remain Visas after countless appeals because the government haven't the backbone to deport the chancers.

Ain't that the case....Kisyombe (SocDem) gets leave to remain
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/ellie-kisyombe-granted-leave-to-remain-in-ireland-1.3964187

imme

jay0109 wrote: »

Ain't that the case....Kisyombe (SocDem) gets leave to remain
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/ellie-kisyombe-granted-leave-to-remain-in-ireland-1.3964187

Below is a small extract from the article.
She wants to make Ireland great, well isn't that great.

Isn't Ireland lucky?

She says she is proud to be a "true Irish woman".

Having come to Ireland in 2011 on a student visa, and having since claimed asylum in the UK she is now a proud Irish woman.

Everyone's Irish now!

“Ireland is home now and I’m proud to be a true Irish woman. Whatever it is needed to make Ireland great, that’s what I’m going to bring to Ireland now. This is where my heart is. This is where I want to see my children, my grandchildren and my great-grandchildren grow. I want my history to stay here.”

Bobblehats

imme wrote: »

“This is where I want to see my children, my grandchildren and my great-grandchildren grow. I want my history to stay here.”

I think she means legacy. Not good at multiplication but the possibilities are endless I suppose... granted Leave to Remain. sounds a bit of a strange one how about remaining to leave???

Kivaro

Doesn't surprise me that she got leave to remain.
Amazing country we live in.
She lied in her Irish asylum application and was caught out publicly; yet still wins the asylum lottery by being allowed to stay.

The asylum process in Ireland is a complete farce. Multitudes of appeals after being denied asylum is the standard procedure because more than likely applicants will also get leave to remain.

weldoninhio

It really comes across as a deliberate policy to paint Ireland as an international soft touch towards liars and conmen/women. Doesn’t matter if you lie to get here, you’ll probably get to stay.

Del.Monte

Sure it's great, all these people trying to get in here have Masters degrees and want to become Doctors, Engineers, IT specialists etc. plus do all the jobs that the Irish won't do - allegedly. :rolleyes:

Church on Tuesday

Del.Monte wrote: »

Sure it's great, all these people trying to get in here have Masters degrees and want to become Doctors, Engineers, IT specialists etc. plus do all the jobs that the Irish won't do - allegedly. :rolleyes:

Irish jobs for Irish people eh? :rolleyes:

Del.Monte

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Irish jobs for Irish people eh? :rolleyes:

Mad idea isn't it. :rolleyes:

Jimmy McGill

Del.Monte wrote: »

Sure it's great, all these people trying to get in here have Masters degrees and want to become Doctors, Engineers, IT specialists etc. plus do all the jobs that the Irish won't do - allegedly. :rolleyes:

Not to mention the thousands that arrive here every year on student visas, enroll themselves on a mickey mouse English course and then stay for as long as they like with the rules not enforced.

Church on Tuesday

Del.Monte wrote: »

Mad idea isn't it. :rolleyes:

Here's an even better one for you. You and the rest of the boys here should join the fledgling Irexit movement sure, if you haven't already, to try get Johnny Foreigner out. They could really do with the numbers last I checked and they'd love to have ye.

Or just burn down another hotel, whatever suits you lot.

weldoninhio

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Here's an even better one for you. You and the rest of the boys here should join the fledgling Irexit movement sure, if you haven't already, to try get Johnny Foreigner out. They could really do with the numbers last I checked and they'd love to have ye.

Or just burn down another hotel, whatever suits you lot.

It’s nothing to do with Johnny Foreigner. There is no issue allowing skilled foreign workers into Ireland. It’s the scammers, the never-ending appeals of “asylum” seekers who get leave to remain and the “students” who come for English classes, but never leave.

pjohnson

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Here's an even better one for you. You and the rest of the boys here should join the fledgling Irexit movement sure, if you haven't already, to try get Johnny Foreigner out. They could really do with the numbers last I checked and they'd love to have ye.

Or just burn down another hotel, whatever suits you lot.

They will never get off boards to change it even though they've spent years here preaching about how to fix things :pac:


They also dont seem to vote for the hero reps either Casey, Renua, Irexit et al.

Church on Tuesday

weldoninhio wrote: »

It’s nothing to do with Johnny Foreigner. There is no issue allowing skilled foreign workers into Ireland. It’s the scammers, the never-ending appeals of “asylum” seekers who get leave to remain and the “students” who come for English classes, but never leave.

A lot of people have an issue with foreigners coming into this country full stop though. The poster I quoted there is one of them. He's not alone either on this site BTW.

You see, there's nothing wrong with having a debate about immigration control; obviously you only really want people of value coming into a country and not some headcase or scammer.

The problem with this debate is that people who are racist jump on this particular issue because it's a handy respectable outlet for them and post ****e under the pretense of just being in favour of immigration control. Why the hell are people burning down buildings!? That's mental. Pure and simple.

That is a genuine issue here folks; let's not just ignore that and there's any amount of evidence of same going back over this thread.

weldoninhio

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

A lot of people have an issue with foreigners coming into this country full stop though. The poster I quoted there is one of them. He's not alone either on this site BTW.

You see, there's nothing wrong with having a debate about immigration control; obviously you only really want people of value coming into a country and not some headcase or scammer.

The problem with this debate is that people who are racist jump on this particular issue because it's a handy respectable outlet for them and post ****e under the pretense of just being in favour of immigration control. Why the hell are people burning down buildings!? That's mental. Pure and simple.

That is a genuine issue here folks; let's not just ignore that and there's any amount of evidence of same going back over this thread.

We need a functioning asylum process. Anyone who fails, gets 1 appeal, then out. No bleeding heart option. You are out.

An Australian style skills visa. No more “English” college visas.

Opt out of the EU migrant programme. Lisbon vote 2 gave us a veto. Use it.

dudara

Moved from AH > CA.

On consideration - closing this thread as we already have enough threads on the same topic.

dudara