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    #182
    Losty Dublin
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    Swap France for Georgia.


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    #183
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    heard somewhere the point that France have never been professional at national level since the sport went professional.

    they were ok in the "semi-pro" era of the first 10 to 15 years of professionalism but have been badly exposed since then.

    French "flair" might have worked in the past but now it's just a byword for no structure or game plan.

    they might win the odd game against a good side here or there but less and less likely - need to sort themselves out.


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    #184
    lawred2
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    Jonny Wilko says France haven't done much wrong


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    #185
    Brewster
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    French rugby is in a sorry sorry state. Given the resources and budgets they have, it’s nothing short of a disgrace.


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    #186
    awec
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    swiwi_ wrote: »
    There’s a lot of « France are really poor ». But I think England are just really good. We will see how poor France are or are not once they have visited Dublin. The trouble with France is that seem to be a team of individuals rather than a team.
    Yea.

    I don't think Ireland would put 30 points on this France team by half time. England have been excellent.


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    #187
    Gidea
    Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭Gidea


    France crumbling again. Now i know France will hammer us in Dublin to spite us:pac:


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    #188
    FrancieBrady
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    It's official, England finally have a cohesive team and France are actually awful.


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    #189
    Marengo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Marengo


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It's official, England finally have a cohesive team and France are actually awful.

    They are no doubt. Looking like they're really hitting form in WC year.


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    #190
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    England are 31 point favourites on Paddy power now. That's a great line to take right now.

    France 100/1 to come back.


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    #191
    Hurrache
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    The championship does not have much of a draw for the remaining weekends after only 2 weekends played based on what we've seen from 5 of the countries.


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    #192
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Southdubin6 wrote: »
    England won’t win a World Cup. Their performances are look far better cause we have been so poor.

    We were a smidge below our best. England are just better. Serious WC contenders.


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    #193
    thomond2006
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    Huget can't be put out there again in this Six Nations.


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    #194
    joseywhales
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    glasso wrote: »
    heard somewhere the point that France have never been professional at national level since the sport went professional.

    they were ok in the "semi-pro" era of the first 10 to 15 years of professionalism but have been badly exposed since then.

    French "flair" might have worked in the past but now it's just a byword for no structure or game plan.

    they might win the odd game against a good side here or there but less and less likely - need to sort themselves out.

    Despite that they should have won the WC 2011 and have made the final three times. They should be top 5 every year.


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    #195
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    swiwi_ wrote: »
    There’s a lot of « France are really poor ». But I think England are just really good. We will see how poor France are or are not once they have visited Dublin. The trouble with France is that seem to be a team of individuals rather than a team.

    The sophistication of French coaching seems 10 or more years behind the times. Almost everyone has moved beyond them. Its only that they still have a serious pool of talent that they are sustaining any sort of level. Player development hasnt moved on much either, but thats back to the low level of coaching.
    They need to hire a few New Zealanders for about 10 years for root and branch change in French rugby knowhow.


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    #196
    highgiant1985
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    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Wales will shyte themselves against England

    we shall see :D


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    #197
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    joseywhales wrote: »
    Despite that they should have won the WC 2011 and have made the final three times. They should be top 5 every year.

    the usual problem is that they have so many decent players but don't know how to create a team.


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    #198
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Marengo and lbc2019 we've had enough of your petty sniping. Neither of you are to post on this thread again.


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    #199
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    I wonder if any French fans have left early


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    #200
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,330 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Penaud knows how to sprint right? He looks knackered... Two minutes into the second half.


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    #201
    TallyRand
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    Terrible from France, no doubt in my mind they will turn up against us and it will be a different type of game.
    Depressing we are not where we thought we were and the inverse for England.

    Only now remembering England were hot pre-Tournament favs last year.

    Hopefully this is our blip period and we are more on point for the World Cup because we’ll be exiting at the 1/4 final stage as per usual the way things are right now


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    #202
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    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    The sophistication of French coaching seems 10 or more years behind the times. Almost everyone has moved beyond them. Its only that they still have a serious pool of talent that they are sustaining any sort of level. Player development hasnt moved on much either, but thats back to the low level of coaching.
    They need to hire a few New Zealanders for about 10 years for root and branch change in French rugby knowhow.

    yeah - they have never had a foreign coach at national level afaicr?

    stupid French pride - get over it.


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    #203
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Demon creature playing openside for England at the moment.

    England just playing for the craic now.


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    #204
    troyzer
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    France doesn't even know which back is playing where.

    Brunel needs to be proverbially ****ing lynched for allowing this.

    France need a Michael Cheika or Joe Schmidt to install a cultural change.


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    #205
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,365 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    That’s a very generous penalty try IMO


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    #206
    Gidea
    Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭Gidea


    glasso wrote: »
    yeah - they have never had a foreign coach at national level afaicr?

    stupid French pride - get over it.

    Was just reading there that the FFR have strict rules on players having French passports and they have next to no players that are resident qualified.

    Can't imagine they'd hire a foreign coach with that mindset!

    Incidentally, you could argue that every other them benefited from the 3 year rule and have made their teams better, while France have gone backwords :o


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    #207
    lawred2
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    Don't think he would have scored. Ball bounced behind to the left of them


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    #208
    Bridge93
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    That’s a rubbish decision from Owens


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    #209
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    awec wrote: »
    That’s a very generous penalty try IMO

    Dunno, even if he caught it with his knee or foot it likely would have been scored.


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    #210
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    The only real positive outcome now could be a ridiculous, 80+ point England win and all of the arrogance and complacency that comes with it.


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    #211
    Podge_irl
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    awec wrote: »
    That’s a very generous penalty try IMO

    Ashton had over-run that ball. There is no way in hell he was going to pick it up and score either way.


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