Fancy paying for my holiday?

Bill nye

Just arrived home from working all day, asked the kids how they got on in school and they told me all about an upcoming pyjama day and bake sale in the school and give me the small information leaflet about it. Turns out it's to raise funds for a teacher to head off Tanzania for volunteer work.

Apparently the teacher went off last year to Uganda to do it and seems to have liked it enough to go again. The amounts raised in the school might be small enough but it begs the question of should it be an option to for the teacher ti raise funds in this manner?

Schools have enough kind of fundraisers throughout the year to try raise funds for school equipment etc that surely the last thing they need is to raise funds so a teacher can go abroad. Granted I'm sure the teacher is doing good work whilst there, but surely this is a bit of a piss take?

Flyingsnowball

Entitled public service workers. Think they are entitled to everything. Staying one chapter ahead of snotty nosed teenagers in the curriculum somehow deserves you to be as rich as a bus driver.

McMurphy

Bill nye wrote: »

Just arrived home from working all day, asked the kids how they got on in school and they told me all about an upcoming pyjama day and bake sale in the school and give me the small information leaflet about it. Turns out it's to raise funds for a teacher to head off Tanzania for volunteer work.

Apparently the teacher went off last year to Uganda to do it and seems to have liked it enough to go again. The amounts raised in the school might be small enough but it begs the question of should it be an option to for the teacher ti raise funds in this manner?

Schools have enough kind of fundraisers throughout the year to try raise funds for school equipment etc that surely the last thing they need is to raise funds so a teacher can go abroad. Granted I'm sure the teacher is doing good work whilst there, but surely this is a bit of a piss take?

Apparently.

Church on Tuesday

It's like this; there are teachers who do it for the love of the job and to try make a difference to a young persons life.

And then there are teachers who, quite frankly, take the absolute and total piss.

And that's coming from someone who hopes to work in the profession in the coming years.

endacl

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Entitled public service workers. Think they are entitled to everything. Staying one chapter ahead of snotty nosed teenagers in the curriculum somehow deserves you to be as rich as a bus driver.

It’s a great job. With the handiest of timetables, I only have to turn up 3 days a week for 9 months of the year. In fact, I’m timetabled as I type this, but the student hasn’t shown up since Xmas, and since we’re well into the year, they won’t be replaced. So, a taxpayer funded tea break for me!

Teaching has allowed me to train for a whole second profession, and have time to build a second career. Teaching will give me the nice defined benefit pension, and pays the bills. Second gig pays for all the rest.

Nice one!

I say all this, of course, because I suspect it’ll pi55 you off.

juneg

I'm pretty sure all those organizations accept non teachers too?

endacl

juneg wrote: »

I'm pretty sure all those organizations accept non teachers too?

No point complaining about them. Would ruin the thread.

alchemist33

It used to really annoy me when people raised funds to pay for their trek to Macchu Pichu for charity. Even if some money went to charity they were asking people to pay them to go on holiday - it wasn't some grand sacrifice they were making. Fortunately that practice seems to have died out

Giveaway

Or paying big bucks to transport irish people to the 3rd world to build houses when there is no shortage of said labor in the 3rd world

brightspark

I usually try to avoid sponsoring anyone doing "volunteering" holidays, unless the individual going has fairly specific skills that are actually needed, however that is rarely the case.

Flyingsnowball

endacl wrote: »

It’s a great job. With the handiest of timetables, I only have to turn up 3 days a week for 9 months of the year. In fact, I’m timetabled as I type this, but the student hasn’t shown up since Xmas, and since we’re well into the year, they won’t be replaced. So, a taxpayer funded tea break for me!

Teaching has allowed me to train for a whole second profession, and have time to build a second career. Teaching will give me the nice defined benefit pension, and pays the bills. Second gig pays for all the rest.

Nice one!

I say all this, of course, because I suspect it’ll pi55 you off.

A swirling toilet

JOSman

brightspark wrote: »

I usually try to avoid sponsoring anyone doing "volunteering" holidays, unless the individual going has fairly specific skills that are actually needed, however that is rarely the case.

He's right, many locals have no jobs and would love sponsorship to build houses, factories, roads etc. Jobs are what is needed locally. How many of the indigenous population could be employed for the cost of one foreigner on a junket?

Twenty Grand

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

Entitled public service workers. Think they are entitled to everything. Staying one chapter ahead of snotty nosed teenagers in the curriculum somehow deserves you to be as rich as a bus driver.

Lol a bus driver?
Do an auld course, get an auld license and presto you're on 40k driving a bus. Well done you.

Bill nye

Bill nye wrote: »

Just arrived home from working all day, asked the kids how they got on in school and they told me all about an upcoming pyjama day and bake sale in the school and give me the small information leaflet about it. Turns out it's to raise funds for a teacher to head off Tanzania for volunteer work.

Apparently the teacher went off last year to Uganda to do it and seems to have liked it enough to go again. The amounts raised in the school might be small enough but it begs the question of should it be an option to for the teacher ti raise funds in this manner?

Schools have enough kind of fundraisers throughout the year to try raise funds for school equipment etc that surely the last thing they need is to raise funds so a teacher can go abroad. Granted I'm sure the teacher is doing good work whilst there, but surely this is a bit of a piss take?

Have you got in touch with the school principal as well as boards what do they say?

brightspark

From the Habitat website. https://www.habitatireland.ie/volunteer-overseas/

Volunteer trips with Habitat usually last from one to two weeks. During this time volunteers work on a construction site building homes together with team members and homeowner families.

Every year groups from schools, third-level institutions, community clubs, companies, friends and family volunteer with Habitat for Humanity.

How to apply: There are two ways to apply: either join one of our scheduled/featured trips or create a group of your own with a tailor-made itinerary. No construction skills are necessary! There will be a skilled supervisor on site to teach you everything you need to know.

Fundraising: All volunteers are encouraged to fundraise the cost of their trip. Trips range from €1,800 – €2,900 and this fee includes flights, accommodation, insurance, fundraising and orientation materials, in-country transport, food and water, as well as your donation to Habitat’s work. Vaccinations are not included.

If a builder told me he was going I'd support him, but paying for someone who probably couldn't put up a shelf in their own home..no way.

brightspark

I've just had an idea, can we get a charity in another country to encourage amateur builders to come and build houses for the homeless here?

Bill nye

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Apparently.

Yes, it was the opening line of the information leaflet. The teacher had an incredible trip in Uganda last year and wants to volunteer abroad again.

juneg

brightspark wrote: »

I've just had an idea, can we get a charity in another country to encourage amateur builders to come and build houses for the homeless here?

If I could thank you twice I would 😂😂

Bill nye

mariaalice wrote: »

Have you got in touch with the school principal as well as boards what do they say?

I got home from work tonight well after 6pm. Unfortunately unable to ring and call the principal at this hour. I'm sure it's not urgent enough to go finding a home or mobile number to harass them over. You think it'll be ok to question it on here first and ask questions to the school during school hours?

Mrs OBumble

alchemist33 wrote: »

It used to really annoy me when people raised funds to pay for their trek to Macchu Pichu for charity. Even if some money went to charity they were asking people to pay them to go on holiday - it wasn't some grand sacrifice they were making. Fortunately that practice seems to have died out

It may have stopped among your friends - but is still going strong among others.

Seems to me that a teacher involving his/her class in the fundraising efforts is a whole different level of brass neck though. The kids (and their parents) are pretty much coerced into supporting the initiative whether or not it's a charity they want to support - because the teacher is in a position of power and may express displeasure with students who don't support it.

It's kinda the flipside of why teachers (and any other public servants) shouldn't be allowed to accept gifts from students, beyond things they can enjoy immediately.

Giveaway

the best response is not to donate to it or take part in any of the activities

Bill nye

Giveaway wrote: »

the best response is not to donate to it or take part in any of the activities

while I agree, imagine telling small kids they can't have a fun day or go to the cake sale...

the_pen_turner

what drives me mad is the sponsered skydives and bungy jumps etc. most of these people would spend money to do these things regularly . why should i pay for it.

do something horrible andd i will support you

Giveaway

then that is on the teacher. a proper way to do it would be the teacher announcing he was going on the trip, had funded his travel and accomodation and was looking to raise additional funds for the school he was visiting. no objecition to that. also 30kg of chalk in the check in luggage would go a long way in the school

Plumbthedepths

No different than those that ask you to sponsor them to go to London or NYC to run 26.2 miles all for charity of course, ;-)

Bill nye

Agreed. If the trip had already been funded and this was additional funds then it does not seem so bad.

Amalgam

Giveaway wrote: »

Or paying big bucks to transport irish people to the 3rd world to build houses when there is no shortage of said labor in the 3rd world

..and being broadcast here just as the country was about to fall off a cliff.

#blessed #newday #helpinghands #slumfie #povertyporn

endacl

Flyingsnowball wrote: »

A swirling toilet

Hey, I didn’t flush it. I just make the most of the wave.