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6n 2019 Scotland Vs Ireland build up thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Cor Blimey. If we start the game with a third of the team sub international level, then it looks even grimmer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    The Captain's run is actually named after Walter Captain who was a blindside flanker playing for Otago in the 1910s. He started the tradition of testing the pitch the night before a match with his cleats on so he had a sense of it before packing down the next day. It would usually finish with some suicide drills to test how heavy it was for running in open field. Hence, Captain's Run.

    The rest of his teammates coped onto it after he put his solid scrummaging abilities down to it and the Captain's run was born. The practice would spread to the Home Nations when his Otago teammate Abe Munro made the Invincibles squad of 1924. He didn't get capped internationally but he was an important squad player who introduced the practice to the All Blacks which was noticed by England before their test. And then it became widespread. All of this is complete bollocks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Buer wrote: »
    The fact that Byrne is there means they have a concern over a winger (most likely Earls) rather than Byrne suddenly having leapfrogged others for selection.

    You cover where you're exposed, not necessarily the best players.

    Correct, but you'd wonder why they didn't bring Addison or T Farrell too, considering Henshaw is also carrying a knock


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Buer wrote: »
    The fact that Byrne is there means they have a concern over a winger (most likely Earls) rather than Byrne suddenly having leapfrogged others for selection.

    You cover where you're exposed, not necessarily the best players.

    I always figured the "extra man" was for a sudden pull up a la Heaslip against England. If you have a legitimate concern over someone would two extra backs travelling not make more sense then? Presumably there is no restriction beyond the IRFU stumping up for an extra flight and hotel room?


  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭redmca2


    The enforced changes from last week are a grim reminder of problems that could arise with our 31 man squad at the world cup.



    It amazes me that countries haven't collectively pushed the IRB for squad numbers to be increased to 35 or 36


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    redmca2 wrote: »
    The enforced changes from last week are a grim reminder of problems that could arise with our 31 man squad at the world cup.



    It amazes me that countries haven't collectively pushed the IRB for squad numbers to be increased to 35 or 36

    It's World Rugby, not the IRB. And there are good reasons why they have it 31.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    redmca2 wrote: »
    The enforced changes from last week are a grim reminder of problems that could arise with our 31 man squad at the world cup.

    It amazes me that countries haven't collectively pushed the IRB for squad numbers to be increased to 35 or 36
    35/36 is too many tbh.
    31 allows match day squad and an additional player per position as in extra prop, hooker, second row, backrow, scrum half, outhalf, 2 outside backs.
    35/36 would be too many and there would be huge amount of bag carriers with 35/36 involved.


  • Administrators Posts: 53,365 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    clsmooth wrote: »
    But is it usually always taken by the captain or is it just called the captains run for traditional purposes?
    I would imagine it's taken by the coaches these days, but the captain gives some sort of final pep talk to the team as part of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,600 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    clsmooth wrote: »
    Does every team do a captains run? I've only really ever heard it with reference to the Irish team but I suspect thats due to the province's captains runs not really being reported on and not following other national teams.

    Yeah they always do. They just don't bother reporting on them because there'd be one every week.

    It's the final session before the game where they do a walk through of set moves, kickers get some practice in the stadium, and they go through their set pieces too.

    Eddie O Sullivan on OTB a week or two ago said he never had Ireland do it. He'd send the kickers down to practice. But he was too worried about being watched.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    So what if...
    Ireland take the field tomorrow determined to start in opposite fashion to last Saturday.
    Is there a chance we over do that?
    Could we give away 3 penalties in the first 10 minutes for over exuberance?

    Sorry... Went to bed too early tonight and woke up just now with shiiite thoughts....

    We win by 8.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,965 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin




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