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Liam Neeson has landed himself in a spot of trouble

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Queue the snowflakes....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    People flipping out on twitter as usual, only reading the headline and not reading the bit where he explains he now realises how wrong he was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    I don't think so. He told the story and spoke about his realisation it was madness. He admitted to wanting to kill a black man because a black man raped his friend. Could have been an asian or a honkey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Queue the snowflakes....

    You seem to be a bit sensitive about that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    He's a brave man admitting that in this day and age:D

    I know people will rush to condemn him but look at the context, he was talking about he felt at that time, in the moment of learning what had happened to his loved one. It's an understandable reaction to a violent assault.

    I'd presume he doesn't feel that way now but the permanently outraged won't let that stop them vilifying him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    I don't think so. He told the story and spoke about his realisation it was madness. He admitted to wanting to kill a black man because a black man raped his friend. Could have been an asian or a honkey.

    If it was a white man would he look to punch any white man too?

    Not sure why he even admits to it, we all have moments of stupidity but his logic was particularly flawed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    You seem to be a bit sensitive about that.

    And so what if I am?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    eviltwin wrote: »
    He's a brave man admitting that in this day and age:D

    I know people will rush to condemn him but look at the context, he was talking about he felt at that time, in the moment of learning what had happened to his loved one. It's an understandable reaction to a violent assault.

    I'd presume he doesn't feel that way now but the permanently outraged won't let that stop them vilifying him.
    No it's not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    It strikes me as an extremely bizarre interview but I don't think he's been the same man since he lost his wife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    He is 66 I see and retiring now I'd say... whether he wants to or not.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    strandroad wrote: »
    If it was a white man would he look to punch any white man too?

    Not sure why he even admits to it, we all have moments of stupidity but his logic was particularly flawed.

    Yes, so he says. He didn't punch anyone. He was waiting on someone to start on him. No black man did, no fight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    BBFAN wrote: »
    It strikes me as an extremely bizarre interview but I don't think he's been the same man since he lost his wife.

    Yeah this is what struck me. Suicide saying something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,578 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    I think he said what a lot of us would say at first if someone close to us was raped tbh .

    That's until you think about it rationally and know you can't beat someone's head in .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I don't really care what he did in the past.
    From what I know about him, He's always trying to guilt people tough about various issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,787 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Seems like thoughts are now crimes.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    eviltwin wrote: »
    He's a brave man admitting that in this day and age:D

    I know people will rush to condemn him but look at the context, he was talking about he felt at that time, in the moment of learning what had happened to his loved one. It's an understandable reaction to a violent assault.

    I'd presume he doesn't feel that way now but the permanently outraged won't let that stop them vilifying him.
    No it's not
    Id probably feel the same in that situation so id agree its an understandable reaction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    i will find you and i will kill you :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I stand with Liam Neeson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    The ‘black person’ bit has clearly been highlighted by Sky to sensationalise it all. He asked his friend if she could identify the person and she mentioned something that stood out to her. I’m guessing she was white. If his attacked friend was black and her attacker was white, likely one of the first things she’d say too is mention his skin colour. It’s a broad identifier that you can point to.

    As for the feelings of wanting vengeance, they are very human feelings if not the most admirable. Kinda like when the father of a victim of Larry Nassar lunged at him in court last year. It was a wrong action but a perfectly understandable one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Then you have someone like Ice Cube earning a fortune from rapping about killing whites and Koreans, never expressing any regret and going on to star in family comedies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    bassy wrote: »
    i will find you and i will kill you :D

    Clearly he didn't :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    Clearly he didn't :o

    of course he did,nt made up movie rubbish that was :D


  • Site Banned Posts: 79 ✭✭Robert Wolfe


    The soyboys will be shocked that he didn't want to hunt down the rapist so he could hug him and give him flowers and forgiveness, but I get him.

    If, say for example, a bunch of Syrian migrants raped someone I cared about, I'm sure I would be filled with overwhelming rage and hatred. Not saying it's ok but I'm human at the end of the day.

    I applaud him for his honesty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    bassy wrote: »
    of course he did,nt made up movie rubbish that was :D

    movie rubbish...? get the f8ck...Taken up there with the best films made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,871 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    In context the comment makes sense, considering that he is trying to make a point about the craziness of his thinking in those moments; he's not boasting about it.

    But, he should have been wise to the fact that the qoute would surely be taken out of context.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    The ‘black person’ bit has clearly been highlighted by Sky to sensationalise it all. He asked his friend if she could identify the person and she mentioned something that stood out to her. I’m guessing she was white. If his attacked friend was black and her attacker was white, likely one of the first things she’d say too is mention his skin colour. It’s a broad identifier that you can point to.

    As for the feelings of wanting vengeance, they are very human feelings if not the most admirable. Kinda like when the father of a victim of Larry Nassar lunged at him in court last year. It was a wrong action but a perfectly understandable one.
    The only thing wrong about that nessar incident is that he walked away unhurt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    well that's the end of him then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    The soyboys will be shocked that he didn't want to hunt down the rapist so he could hug him and give him flowers and forgiveness, but I get him.

    If, say for example, a bunch of Syrian migrants raped someone I cared about, I'm sure I would be filled with overwhelming rage and hatred. Not saying it's ok but I'm human at the end of the day.

    I applaud him for his honesty.

    So brave


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  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another frivolous storm. Neeson reacted emotively to a heinous crime, and later condemned his thought process:

    "It was horrible, horrible, when I think back, that I did that. And I've never admitted that, and I'm saying it to a journalist. God forbid. It's awful. But I did learn a lesson from it."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    eviltwin wrote: »
    He's a brave man admitting that in this day and age:D

    I know people will rush to condemn him but look at the context, he was talking about he felt at that time, in the moment of learning what had happened to his loved one. It's an understandable reaction to a violent assault.

    I'd presume he doesn't feel that way now but the permanently outraged won't let that stop them vilifying him.

    My thoughts too. :D

    Assume the brace position, Liam!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    Just another actor who thinks they're super intellectually intelligent and that if they say something people will consider it as such, reality is that without a script they haven't really go a clue about real life and what's acceptable and what's not.
    Mindless killing is acceptable in action moves, but real life is somewhat more sobering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Liamario


    strandroad wrote: »
    If it was a white man would he look to punch any white man too?

    Not sure why he even admits to it, we all have moments of stupidity but his logic was particularly flawed.

    I don't imagine there was too many black guys walking around n. Ireland when this happened, nor were people as woke as they like to think of themselves nowadays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,543 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Sorry Liam, you're on your own on this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I think a lot of the permanently outraged won't understand what Liam Neeson is saying.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Arghus wrote: »
    In context the comment makes sense, considering that he is trying to make a point about the craziness of his thinking in those moments; he's not boasting about it.

    But, he should have been wise to the fact that the qoute would surely be taken out of context.

    I reckon celebs must grow weary of watching what they say all the time, seeing as pretty much anything can be taken out of context. He might have just thought “Fück it, I’m saying it”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    Queue the snowflakes....

    If you must parrot American political phraseology at least know what the term means :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭jonski


    Your Face wrote:
    I think a lot of the permanently outraged won't understand what Liam Neeson is saying.


    Won't understand ? , They won't even read the article .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Where da white wimmin at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭soups05


    oh for goodness sake. Does it not occur to anyone that he made those comments while promoting a new movie. I would say the entire thing was made up for the headlines ffs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    I reckon celebs must grow weary of watching what they say all the time, seeing as pretty much anything can be taken out of context. He might have just thought “Fück it, I’m saying it”.

    What part of this is out of context.

    "I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody - I'm ashamed to say that - and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some black b*****d would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him."

    Its great he had a change of heart and is ashamed of it, there are probably loads of lads in jail with the same thought process now about their crimes.
    Maybe all that separates Neeson from that is the fact that no one aggressively approached him.
    Either that or he's just talking s***e to promote his movie.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


    The perpetually outraged can be outraged..seems you're not allowed say anything these days if you're a white,straight man.
    Well he said it and good for him..the millennial pussies can cry tears of impotent rage all they want..they're all unemployed wasters anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    soups05 wrote: »
    oh for goodness sake. Does it not occur to anyone that he made those comments while promoting a new movie. I would say the entire thing was made up for the headlines ffs.

    Not to many actors would be willing to make themselves a target of abuse to promote a film. I imagine Liam can put his feet up now and watch his popularity utterly tank, maybe even the occasional small scale boycott of his work and enjoy people shouting at him in the street. The pay would want to be pretty exceptional to include all that in your promotional sideline contract.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    The fact that he asked what colour the perp's skin was in telling. Regardless of the answer, he asked and made a choice to go out (every night for a week) with the intention of assaulting possibly murdering any man of that race who caused trouble. Reagrdless of what the victim's answer was, his intentions were based on race. He could have gone out looking to assault any man (which still would have been wrong) but he chose to focus on race. Another big issue is that the lesson he took from the experience (which he clearly regrets) is that revenge is wrong and pointless, however he doesn't express any specific regret about the fact he was targeting only people of a certain race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


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    I told him that photo would come back to haunt him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,826 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    "Hi Mel, it's Liam..."

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    The fact that he asked what colour the perp's skin was in telling. Regardless of the answer, he asked and made a choice to go out (every night for a week) with the intention of assaulting possibly murdering anyone of that race. Reagrdless of what the victim's answer was, his intentions were based on race. He could have gone out looking to assault any man (which still would have been wrong) but he chose to focus on race. Another big issue is that the lesson he took from the experience (which he clearly regrets) is that revenge is wrong and pointless, however he doesn't express any specific regret about the fact he was targeting only people of a certain race.

    I think a lot of that is to do with the mentality in northern Ireland at the time. Someone from a group did something wrong and the reaction was to take it out on any member of that group, even if they'd nothing to do with it. He clearly knows it was wrong and has expressed regret. He used air quotes around "black bastard" to show that was his thinking at the time and that he is deeply ashamed of that. What more do people want?

    Nothing happened in the end, no one knows if he would actually have hurt or murdered anyone even if given the chance ffs. But he thought about it so I guess that's a crime nowadays

    Also I'm sure that a description of a rapist, including their race is relevant to finding them. Unless you dont want victims to mention if the assailant is non white because that's racist?


  • Site Banned Posts: 79 ✭✭Robert Wolfe


    I think we can all agree that the rapist deserves a slow miserable death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    The fact that he asked what colour the perp's skin was in telling. Regardless of the answer, he asked and made a choice to go out (every night for a week) with the intention of assaulting possibly murdering any man of that race who caused trouble. Reagrdless of what the victim's answer was, his intentions were based on race. He could have gone out looking to assault any man (which still would have been wrong) but he chose to focus on race. Another big issue is that the lesson he took from the experience (which he clearly regrets) is that revenge is wrong and pointless, however he doesn't express any specific regret about the fact he was targeting only people of a certain race.

    Except he didn't ask what colour the perp was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I think a lot of that is to do with the mentality in northern Ireland at the time. Someone from a group did something wrong and the reaction was to take it out on any member of that group, even if they'd nothing to do with it. He clearly knows it was wrong and has expressed regret. He used air quotes around "black bastard" to show that was his thinking at the time and that he is deeply ashamed of that. What more do people want?

    Nothing happened in the end, no one knows if he would actually have hurt or murdered anyone even if given the chance ffs. But he thought about it so I guess that's a crime nowadays

    No one said it was a crime but it's an outrageous way of thinking and it shouldn't be normalised. He's admitted it was horrible, which it was but I get the impression that he's talking about his intentions and not the racism behind those intentions. He could have gone out with the intention of assaulting a white man or an Asian man, it would still be racist because he's targeting an innocent man for the crime of someone who happens to share a skin tone.


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